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superspynyg : 11/13/2014 12:40 pm
Yanks ask Angels about 2b Kendick. Good hitter, good glove. Bluejays also interested. I doubt it happens but I like him.
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i dont get it  
viggie : 11/13/2014 12:42 pm : link
we want to save money, and get younger. Cant even try refsnyder or pirela?
Cashman  
Doubledeuce22 : 11/13/2014 12:44 pm : link
is horrible. Hasn't been good for some time now. It's time for new blood in this front office.
Kendrick is a nice player...  
Dunedin81 : 11/13/2014 12:54 pm : link
but we need to be investing in 3B and SS, not in getting a player at the one position where we actually have youth near at hand.
Maybe they do not think he is ready  
superspynyg : 11/13/2014 12:59 pm : link
Or will be a solid 2b prospect. I want Refsnyder as much as all of you. I still do not know why we have not made a run at Cubs Castro for SS.
Yeah but even if Pirela and Refsnyder aren't ready...  
Dunedin81 : 11/13/2014 1:00 pm : link
and they likely are, Prado could play 2B and you could spend the money elsewhere.
RE: Yeah but even if Pirela and Refsnyder aren't ready...  
LS : 11/13/2014 1:02 pm : link
In comment 11975851 Dunedin81 said:
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and they likely are, Prado could play 2B and you could spend the money elsewhere.
Agreed. Kendrick makes no sense.
Our best 3B prospects are Andujar and Jagielo...  
Dunedin81 : 11/13/2014 1:05 pm : link
likely to begin at A+ and AA, respectively. Our best SS prospects (Avelino, Mateo, even Wade) will be no higher than A+ and even that could be pushing it. I get that it's just a year of Kendrick, but if we need rentals anywhere they would be at 3B or SS.
Pinstripe Plus just came out  
sinctybldh : 11/13/2014 1:08 pm : link
with their top 50 prospects. I can't discuss the rankings, but I am amazed at how much depth we have now compared to the last few years. The Yankees system is definitely on the way up.
Is it me or are the yanks rarely in on  
kmed : 11/13/2014 1:09 pm : link
Cuban players? If so, why not?
i dont know  
sinctybldh : 11/13/2014 1:10 pm : link
but they better be all in on Moncada once he is declared a free agent.
I must be missing something  
The 12th Man : 11/13/2014 3:25 pm : link
Prado can play 3rd or RF A-Roid has to play somewhere and if we were looking to fill 3rd I would be very happy re-signing Headley. SS now that is another story.
is Moncada 2b, SS, or 3b?  
brandozilla : 11/13/2014 4:34 pm : link
All I see is infielder.

Will he be able to sign prior to the season?
Prado is a better 3b than 2b.  
superspynyg : 11/13/2014 4:34 pm : link
So we can still use the money elsewhere.
any good players  
brandozilla : 11/13/2014 4:37 pm : link
coming out of Japan this year?
moncada's  
sinctybldh : 11/13/2014 4:41 pm : link
Best position is either second or third..he will need to spend some time in the minors as he is only 19.
RE: any good players  
DanMetroMan : 11/13/2014 4:42 pm : link
In comment 11976283 brandozilla said:
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coming out of Japan this year?


Maeda impressed scouts this week but overall no difference makers outside of maybe him.
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Dunedin81 : 11/14/2014 1:51 pm : link

Comment From Analogies
Which big leaguer is a good Bird comp?

1:06

Kiley McDaniel: I got not-as-injured Nick Johnson two years ago and that still might be it


Comment From Salty
Do judge, severino, bird all make top 100 next list?


12:31

Kiley McDaniel: I would guess yes but my list will be much longer than 100

Jim Callis saying good things about Bird & Judge  
Dunedin81 : 11/14/2014 1:55 pm : link
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Nick Johnson with more power and less OBP, maybe  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2014 1:57 pm : link
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Nobody is Nick Johnson and his >.500 OBP...  
Dunedin81 : 11/14/2014 2:01 pm : link
but a healthy Bird could end up north of .450.
looking it up  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2014 2:03 pm : link
The Stick had better minor league power numbers than I remembered, although he never really showed that in the big leagues. It still seems like Bird has more raw power though.
Bird has excellent power...  
Dunedin81 : 11/14/2014 2:08 pm : link
the issue that he has is that his patience, while generally very positive, means that he tends to miss out on some of the better pitches to drive, which are early in the AB. If he gets behind he is protecting, and if he gets ahead they respect his power enough not to groove a strike just to avoid putting him on base.
BTW Austin is out 2-3 weeks with bruising...  
Dunedin81 : 11/14/2014 2:08 pm : link
and apparently he hurt himself colliding with Bird as both were pursuing a fly ball. But barring something unforeseen he should be ready for ST.
Supposedly DROb is down to the Yanks, 'Stros and White Sox  
Dunedin81 : 11/14/2014 2:21 pm : link
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why would the astros  
sinctybldh : 11/14/2014 3:45 pm : link
want david robertson? that is a stupid use of their money.
Hope it's either us or the Astros then  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
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The Astros can have him...  
blue2 : 11/14/2014 4:38 pm : link
for the money he's asking for...I would rather sign Gregerson instead.
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Dunedin81 : 11/14/2014 8:42 pm : link
Beisbol's Org þ@BeisbolsOrg 1m1 minute ago

Just up! The Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, & more are interested in Hyeon-jong Yang as a #2 starter. Can he fill that role?
Yang  
blue2 : 11/14/2014 10:33 pm : link
is interesting...I would love to see the Yankees get him...
Yang  
JPinstripes : 11/15/2014 7:09 am : link
According to several media reports Yang will be posted on Monday with all teams submitting silent bids. The winner of the bid has 30 days to sign Yang.

Yang who is 26 years old was the Korean Cy Young award winner last year. Left handed pitcher that sits in low 90s and a has a delivery described as "smooth" by several scouts.

Ryu signed a 6 year 36 million dollar contract 3 years ago with the Dodgers in a similar situation.

Have to imagine the winning bid will be around 15 million dollars and his contract approximately 6 years 50 million.

I would prefer the Yankees sign McCarthy at 3/36 as he has proven he can pitch effectively in New York.
Per RAB...  
Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 10:07 am : link
Yanks had a significant presence at the Moncada workouts. In some ways the Yanks have a leg up because they factor in paying almost double for every new contract into the price of doing business, but in other ways they've got the same considerations they always do. Though the penalty will not be double-counted, the salary will be (30-40 mil bonus/salary, 30-40 mil penalty, luxury tax penalty on the bonus/salary).
A rather positive look at Bird...  
Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 11:14 am : link
that compares him to Nick Swisher. I think that is a little low on his ceiling but if he can have the offensive career Nick Swisher has it'll still be a success.
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Eric Schmitt will reportedly pair with Gary Denbo...  
Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 11:55 am : link
as the pair in charge of minor league ops. Long term Yankee farmhand had been a caddy to Mark Newman for some time.
RE: The Astros can have him...  
Greg from LI : 11/15/2014 1:13 pm : link
In comment 11977945 blue2 said:
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for the money he's asking for...I would rather sign Gregerson instead.


Gregerson isn't a pimple of Robertson's ass.
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Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 1:14 pm : link
Jeff Passan þ@JeffPassan 1m1 minute ago

Cuban teen Yoan Moncada has been declared a FA by MLB. Needs unblocking from OFAC and then the bidding starts. @JesseSanchezMLB had it 1st.
excellent news on Moncada from RAB  
Greg from LI : 11/15/2014 1:17 pm : link
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Update (12:23pm): Moncada has been declared a free agent by MLB, according to Jesse Sanchez. He must still be unblocked by the Office of Foreign Assets Control before he can sign, however. No word on when that may happen. The important thing is that it appears Moncada will be cleared to sign well before June 15th and count towards the 2014-15 international signing period, putting the Yankees in great position to sign him, as explained below. - See more at: http://riveraveblues.com/#sthash.9q7lRfqX.dpuf
And as to why this helps the Yanks  
Greg from LI : 11/15/2014 1:19 pm : link
[quote]The Yankees exceeded their 2014-15 spending pool and will not be able to sign a player for more than $300k during the 2015-16 and 2016-17 signing periods, but if Moncada is declared a free agent by June 15th, he would count towards the 2014-15 signing period and the Yankees would be able to sign him for any amount [quote]
Moncada seems like an impact talent...  
Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 1:24 pm : link
probably not a SS, but likely a 3B or corner OF who does just about everything well and by the accounts of most of these talent evaluators would be a Top 10 prospect in the game immediately. Curious as to where he would begin if signed, maybe A+, maybe higher.

Also would be surprised if the Yanks didn't sign one of these four or so high-profile int'l free agents (Moncada, Tomas and the two Koreans).
Moncada sounds intriguing  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 11/15/2014 1:29 pm : link
hopefully we're able to land him.

Just searched about Nick Johnson's career numbers, MLB and MiLB. What an OBP monster. I'd sign up for "healthy Nick Johnson" when it comes to Greg Bird. 25 HRs + .380 OBP seems to be a possible ceiling for Bird, and that would be a pretty damn valuable offensive ceiling in today's game.
Kiley McDaniel with a nice story...  
Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 1:31 pm : link
it's interesting, he is on a Cuban passport so it might be the Cuban govt trying to recoup some of his bonus, to my knowledge this is the first time this has been allowed to happen. It might also slow up his clearance by the OFAC. He is also being repped by a CPA from South Florida, not by a traditional sports agent. But the Yanks, the Red Sox, the Rays and the Angels are the teams that are already in the penalty so there is at least some incentive for them to spend that isn't there for others. For the Rays an $80 mil investment ($40 mil plus penalties) is no small potatoes, and the Angels are believed to be all but topped out on payroll. So the Yanks and Sox are the teams that really have an incentive to go heavy after Moncada.
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Gotta get Moncada  
Phil in LA : 11/15/2014 1:54 pm : link
also, I think he might be a long term CF.

And I remember Eric Schmitt getting bombed while pitching for Trenton.
Can't lose out to the fucking Sawx on this guy  
Greg from LI : 11/15/2014 2:09 pm : link
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Greg Bird  
Phil in LA : 11/15/2014 2:43 pm : link
was named AFL MVP.
RE: Greg Bird  
Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 2:51 pm : link
In comment 11978793 Phil in LA said:
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was named AFL MVP.


I had a lengthy exchange with Mike Newman from RotoScouting about Bird and Judge. He reiterated a Swisher comp for Bird, which I still find less than apt (though again if a fifth rounder has the career Swisher does you certainly call it a success). He likened Judge to Kyle Blanks, which actually makes some sense based on their MILB performance, but he said Judge's arm was unimpressive which strikes me as silly.
Dunedin  
Phil in LA : 11/15/2014 3:45 pm : link
People invest a lot of time and ego into their top 100's or whatever and they often try to make the facts fit them.

I wouldn't worry too much about these comps. Bird is bigger than Swisher and not a switch hitter. What he is a lefty power hitter with walks.

Judge is a monster with no visible ceiling since, like Bird, his plate approach is excellent and he will walk.
Also Bird  
Phil in LA : 11/15/2014 3:46 pm : link
though nominally a 5th rounder, got a first round bonus.
if Judge and Bird are going to hit and take their walks  
PetesHereNow : 11/15/2014 3:48 pm : link
I don't care what the experts say. I still remember being in a chat with Jim Callis when he said Cano would have to move to left field since he didn't have the speed to play 2nd.

Cano is best fielding 2B in majors, lol.
My concern about Judge is still the K's...  
Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 3:57 pm : link
his K rate this year was pretty substantial for the low minors and he is likely to continue to struggle to control the strike zone because of how large it is. He still has a huge ceiling but that to me is his big obstacle.
Part of the K rate may be hopefully  
PetesHereNow : 11/15/2014 4:01 pm : link
that the kid was a three sport star in CA. Probably never really focused on baseball until he got to Fresno and his limited time with the Yanks.

It may be an experience thing and as his pitch recognition/experience grows, his K rate will come down.
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Dunedin81 : 11/15/2014 4:53 pm : link
Jim Callis þ@jimcallisMLB 9m9 minutes ago

1B Greg Bird of @Yankees win @mlbazfallleague Joe Black MVP award after tying for HR lead: http://atmlb.com/1EK4yvV . Really like his approach.
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