NFT: So I apparently lost a job last weekend

take an hour from your regular job if its possible and go to the store when your boss is there.

In comment 11977188 Peter in Atlanta said:

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Just go in and get paid to do nothing. That will get their attention.

Honestly, this sounds sarcastic, but I'd probably do the same. Fuck them.

I saw something like this once when Circuit City was going under, there was an entire shift of employees that were let go who had no idea, in part because the manager and assistant manager were both laid off as well. Apparently, enough confusion ensued to end up in the local paper because it took them 3 days to figure out they had been let go.

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In comment 11977189 MookGiants said:

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In comment 11977182 Hades07 said: Quote: In comment 11977178 Johnny5 said: Quote: Talk to your boss and find out what's going on. Why is this even a question? Because as stated, I can't reach my boss. She is only there when I am at my regular job and won't take or return my calls. There has to be a manager on when you are working, go speak with them, put them on the spot and make them figure it out.

I did that, went back later that day and they got her on the phone and she would not speak to me and told them to tell me she would call me, every day since Saturday. None of the other managers know what is going on and I reported directly to the store manager. Just go off the phone with regional and national HR and they have no record of me being terminated. But as an under 20 hour a week employee, the store does not have to schedule me every week. They agree though that this is highly unusual and not the proper expected behavior when letting somebody go or reducing their hours. Company policy is to inform them 4 weeks out if a budget concern causes a change or elimination of hours. They also said there is nothing they can do and I should wait to hear back from my manager. She also said there is no documentations (write-ups) in my file, so she can not terminate me based on performance of policy. They can lay me off, but no lay-offs have been approved at my location.

In comment 11977196 Mike in Long Beach said:

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In comment 11977188 Peter in Atlanta said: Quote: Just go in and get paid to do nothing. That will get their attention. Honestly, this sounds sarcastic, but I'd probably do the same. Fuck them.

I might do that this weekend.

terrible job. I'd be happy I never have to do that anymore.

Shouldn't they be able to light a fire under this manager? I work in HR, and if I got a call like yours, the first thing I would be doing is contacting that manager on your behalf. Managers can set the company up for liability if they mishandle employee relations. HR should be doing everything it can to avoid the company being sued by an employee.

1. drink as much fluids as you can without expelling any.
2. enter the store at a time that few if any workers will be present.
3. carefully select pallets/boxes that are of great monetary value.
4. urinate all over said pallets/boxes of product until they are saturated.
5. repeat step 4 as necessary.
6. wait for the call from your boss the following day.
==========You're welcome==========

johnny catz, pfft

It's not your job to fire yourself. Assume you're on the payroll until notified otherwise.

that will get their attention.

at a place called Foragers - a store-front/restaurant in Manhattan.

that was how they fired people - just took them off the schedule with zero communication. passive aggressiveness at its finest. place was run by a bunch of pussies

before she would've been eligible to collect UE.clockwork. should b illegal

thats the retail world dude

when stores have 400-500 employees thats how they do things
take them off the schedule means youre done

wants you to just go away and then when you attempt to claim unemployment benefits they will say that you abandoned your job.

If I were you I would send certified letters to your immediate supervisor and company human resources departement asking to be notified of your status. If you have an email address for any of the above, or anyone else that you can think of, send them emails as well. In your letters and or emails I would notify the Employer that since you are no longer on the schedule you will be applying for unemployment benefits.

Keep your appraisal as the Employer might try to say that you were terminated for cause when you apply for benefits. It would not suprise me if they say that they were forced to switch your schedule to hours that you work another job, so you abandoned your job with them. If they try that argument inform unemplyment that you were constructively discharged.

I'm not sure about the suggestion that you come to work, punch in and do nothing. That seems like it might create some liability on your part,especially if you work pursuant to a posted schedule.

I'm curious as to what is going on. Post when you figure it out.

for a second, part time job?

In comment 11977100 YAJ2112 said:

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LOL

My guess is there is some form a nepotism with the other guy getting the job and since he wasn't hired using normal practices the part of them informing you got missed.

has some type of relationship with your boss.

Maybe they're fucking or something.

I know in my business you get walked out the door and all accounts locked/shutdown. A pissed off ex-IT-employee can do a tremendous amount of damage depending on the type of access they have.

And yes, please post what you find out why.

In comment 11977357 CruzShip52 said:

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thats the retail world dude when stores have 400-500 employees thats how they do things take them off the schedule means youre done

bullshit. tell somebody. and this is a restaurant with ~employees.

employees. not 500

clocking in and out. Its up to them to get back to you. You have done everything you can from your side. You have ask around at the job. You contacted HR. Now the next move is up to them. If they want to pay you for doing nothing that is up to them, its their call

Since it sounds like he was paid hourly based on a weekly posted schedule and if he is not posted on the schedule to work I doubt they would pay him just for showing up anyway and not working. Your suggestion would only work with a salaried position.

With a psrt-time job, it's usually related to having worked a certain amount of hours. I don't if it's a total hours number or a annual hours number. Check on that.

Especially if you can apply for unemployment benefits, create a paper trail. I agree with the suggestion of certified letters. Make copies of everything. If you even know someone who has a notary public license, get them to stamp your originals and your copies. This is all to prove your attempts to find out your job status in case they try to claim abandonment.

Finally, consult with an employment lawyer. The HR department already said they can't terminate you for performance, so this passive-aggressive tactic of taking you off the schedule until you just quit has to violate something. If it does, have the lawyer draft a letter to the company, and send it to the manager, HR department, and regional office. That will get things moving again, almost guaranteed.

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and ask if you can use them for a positive reference.
If they start to ask questions, that opens the door in case there was some mixup.
If they say OK, just say, 'BTW, I was never officially notified
so could you/someone please tell me why I apparently have been terminated?'. And ask for a copy of your peronnel folder(at least the part re: the review).
Follow through; you've already been anal-yzed by them.

In comment 11977390 YAJ2112 said:

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for a second, part time job?

In CT you could, at least when my Dad and I had a restaurant, we fired a bartender who was part time and had another job and she filed and got unemployment.

and ask for advice.

they will tell you to document everything, reach out the employer and then get back in touch with them for further advice (if any)

In comment 11977456 Bramton1 said:

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I'd rather not say, for multiple reasons. Plus this seems to be all on my manager since nobody else in management in the store knows anything about it, nor anyone over her head. They all could be FOS, but being with the company for almost 10 years, I know a lot of people in management very well, one of them would have A-warned me if they knew anything or B-told me by now if they did.

Also, since I am not terminated, I may call one of them and get a new spot. Easy work, decent money and 20% discount on food. I am not just going to let that get away if I don't have to.

I'll get you all an update when/if I hear anything, but tonight I am going to work the phones to find a new position.

Thank you all for the advice.

at one of their other locations.

In comment 11977182 Hades07 said:

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In comment 11977178 Johnny5 said: Quote: Talk to your boss and find out what's going on. Why is this even a question? Because as stated, I can't reach my boss. She is only there when I am at my regular job and won't take or return my calls.

Hmm, I didn't see that you said she would not take your calls. Actually I still don't see that except in your reply... lol. Well that's pretty effed up anyway. Not sure what I would do except try to wait for her there one day/evening and see her face to face.

In comment 11977390 YAJ2112 said:

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for a second, part time job?

Yes

it was a serious question, I had no idea it applied there as well.

Well I still don't know what is going on, but I have a new spot in the company. I start in about 9 hours. HR approved the transfer without my boss's signature because she can't be reached before Monday morning and I am already off the schedule. Lose only 2 hours as he only needs me for 10, but I get the same rate and am now eligible for another increase in 6 weeks instead of 10 months.

It worked at well for all

Congrats

So I recently decided to get out of the rat race and try being my own boss. Naturally you can't start a business overnight and I've been working a few odd jobs in between to make ends meet. One of them was delivering pizza on the weekends for a local place. I missed my first Giants game in 14 years for this stupid little job bc the money was actually much better than you'd imagine. Then one Sunday a few weeks back I came in and same thing: someone I didn't know was there doing my job. And I'd just left the place at 11 the previous night. So sometime in the 14 hours in between my shifts the owner decided to hire someone else and not tell me. And it's not like I was bad at the job, the owner had previously busted his assistant managers balls several times bc I was pulling in more deliveries than he was just by hustling. Luckily I've found that these little odd jobs are easy to come by and I picked up that slack the following week but it certainly throws you for a loop.

My new boss went to my old boss to get the transfer paperwork complete. He asked her if she could tell him why I was taken off the schedule all of a sudden. She asked him if it would effect him taking me on his team either way. After he said that it would not effect his decision, she told him that he didn't need to know then.

I got an email from her after that conversation it seems, reminding me that proper protocol is to inform her if I intend to transfer. So I replied with all the emails I sent trying to contact her, plus the ones sent to HR to inquire about what happened and a list of dates and times of phone calls made to reach her and who I spoke to. I CC'd HR on that email.

like she should have capital C tattooed on her forehead.

FNG.

No other way to explain it.

She couldn't fire you because there's no cause. But she wanted to give your job to someone else. It's probably the best outcome this way as you wouldn't want to work for that person. Good luck to that guy.

It sounds like if the reason could have affected you getting the transfer, she would have spilled the beans. I don't think, in her mind, it was anything that would have helped you at all.

is about how you got your revenge. This situation is ripe for something good.

Glad things worked out for you. Wow, that is truly an odd situation. The million dollar question is what was the reason for all the shenanigans?

In comment 11991851 Bramton1 said:

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It sounds like if the reason could have affected you getting the transfer, she would have spilled the beans. I don't think, in her mind, it was anything that would have helped you at all.

If she was pissed off at him enough for something he did then she would have been singing like a bird regardless and wouldn't have asked the guy if it would change his mind about taking him on his team either way.

To me it sounds like she's just a cunt

In comment 11991944 MookGiants said:

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In comment 11991851 Bramton1 said: Quote: It sounds like if the reason could have affected you getting the transfer, she would have spilled the beans. I don't think, in her mind, it was anything that would have helped you at all. If she was pissed off at him enough for something he did then she would have been singing like a bird regardless and wouldn't have asked the guy if it would change his mind about taking him on his team either way. To me it sounds like she's just a cunt

Yeah, I get the feeling when HR gets all the emails and list of phone calls that she did not return, she'll have some explaining to do.

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In comment 11991754 Hades07 said:

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My new boss went to my old boss to get the transfer paperwork complete. He asked her if she could tell him why I was taken off the schedule all of a sudden. She asked him if it would effect him taking me on his team either way. After he said that it would not effect his decision, she told him that he didn't need to know then. I got an email from her after that conversation it seems, reminding me that proper protocol is to inform her if I intend to transfer. So I replied with all the emails I sent trying to contact her, plus the ones sent to HR to inquire about what happened and a list of dates and times of phone calls made to reach her and who I spoke to. I CC'd HR on that email.

So... did she reply?

the rationale would have reflected more poorly on her than on him, so she didn't want to go into it with another manager if she could get away with not saying.

The whole thing seems bizarre.