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jeff57 : 11/17/2014 2:13 pm
(Not the governor).

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Charles Brown and John Jerry, RT/RG: combined -15.0

Breakdown: When Justin Pugh was forced out of the game due to a quad injury, the Giants inserted Brown at right tackle the 49ers attacked him and right guard John Jerry all day long. Between them they allowed 18 total pressures as the 49ers managed to get consistent pressure on Eli Manning.

Signature Stat: Brown had the worst Pass Blocking Efficiency among offensive tackles who played at least 10 snaps (82.1). Jerry had the worst among guards, 86.2.



Yes, your eyes did not deceive you.
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No no no...Eli has lost his edge.  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/17/2014 2:16 pm : link
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sjnyfan : 11/17/2014 2:20 pm : link
"Brown had the worst Pass Blocking Efficiency among offensive tackles who played at least 10 snaps..."

And it only took one game. There are players that have been cut in season with a better PBE than that.

Next on that list btw is Matt McCants
Unless Coughlin wants to flush 17 mill a year  
Giants11 : 11/17/2014 2:20 pm : link
they are spending on their franchise QB down the toilet those two ass-clowns better not see the field again. placing a statue there would be more effective.
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jeff57 : 11/17/2014 2:35 pm : link
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How did RT Charles Brown play in place of Justin Pugh? "Not very well," Tom Coughlin said.
RE: Unless Coughlin wants to flush 17 mill a year  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 11/17/2014 2:36 pm : link
In comment 11984536 Giants11 said:
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they are spending on their franchise QB down the toilet those two ass-clowns better not see the field again. placing a statue there would be more effective.


Hint: their backups are worse.
4th and an inch  
BlueHurricane : 11/17/2014 2:37 pm : link
Run right behind those two bags of shit. Brilliant!!!
Photos Of Jerry & Brown Working Side By Side  
Trainmaster : 11/17/2014 2:41 pm : link



I knew they looked familiar  
jeff57 : 11/17/2014 2:42 pm : link
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on the rush 3 play  
yalebowl : 11/17/2014 2:49 pm : link
Our LT, LG, and Center were blocking one person. Jerry and Brown were one on one with each of their opponents. That play is also on Walton the center for not helping out.

On the first down play after the onside kick, Jennings ran right while there was a hole large enough for a truck to run through on the left side. He obviously didn't see it and went ahead with the play to the right and got swallowed up.
whats more.... JPP  
mattlawson : 11/17/2014 3:00 pm : link
Pierre-Paul had the lowest Pass Rushing Productivity of any 4-3 Defensive End who recorded a pressure at 2.4
Is there any better example of why it is time for Reese to go?  
Red Dog : 11/17/2014 3:07 pm : link
An NFL General Manager simply has to do better than this.

how much of Pugh seeming ineffectiveness ccn be  
Victor in CT : 11/17/2014 3:12 pm : link
attributed
how much of Pugh's seeming ineffectiveness can be  
Victor in CT : 11/17/2014 3:13 pm : link
attributed to the garbage playing beside him?

Sorry about the multiple entry, computer acting up
great job Reese!  
Enzo : 11/17/2014 3:13 pm : link
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RE: No no no...Eli has lost his edge.  
RC02XX : 11/17/2014 3:15 pm : link
In comment 11984522 Bold Ruler said:
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Well, replacing him is the biggest priority this offseason, so yes, he has lost his edge. What do you know?!!!
too bad it wasn't the governor  
GIANTSr01 : 11/17/2014 3:15 pm : link
he couldn't possibly be worse.

RE: how much of Pugh's seeming ineffectiveness can be  
jeff57 : 11/17/2014 3:16 pm : link
In comment 11984728 Victor in CT said:
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attributed to the garbage playing beside him?

Sorry about the multiple entry, computer acting up


The RG and C weren't a whole lot better last season.
RE: whats more.... JPP  
GIANTSr01 : 11/17/2014 3:17 pm : link
In comment 11984680 mattlawson said:
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Pierre-Paul had the lowest Pass Rushing Productivity of any 4-3 Defensive End who recorded a pressure at 2.4


I'm actually surprised JPP recorded the pressure needed to qualify for this stat...
RE: RE: how much of Pugh's seeming ineffectiveness can be  
GIANTSr01 : 11/17/2014 3:18 pm : link
In comment 11984746 jeff57 said:
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attributed to the garbage playing beside him?

Sorry about the multiple entry, computer acting up



The RG and C weren't a whole lot better last season.


People (BBI) hate on Diehl, but he was still better than Jerry.
RE: RE: No no no...Eli has lost his edge.  
GiveShockeyTheBall : 11/17/2014 3:21 pm : link
In comment 11984738 RC02XX said:
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In comment 11984522 Bold Ruler said:


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Well, replacing him is the biggest priority this offseason, so yes, he has lost his edge. What do you know?!!!


LOL! But Eli is the reason we have sucked the past two season! THis site has turned into a joke.

Eli is playing behind the worst oline in the league since mid 2012. It is a miracle he hasn't been injured.
Not completely related,  
Go Terps : 11/17/2014 3:30 pm : link
but if you haven't checked out PFF's podcast its worth a listen. They tend to focus on one or two games, and actually talk about what is happening on the field. You won't have to hear about Aldon Smith's voluntary charitable work, and they don't tell us "I had the opportunity to have dinner with Josh Brent, and he says he's sorry. Boy is he impressive!"
RE: RE: whats more.... JPP  
BigBlueinChicago : 11/17/2014 3:34 pm : link
In comment 11984752 GIANTSr01 said:
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Pierre-Paul had the lowest Pass Rushing Productivity of any 4-3 Defensive End who recorded a pressure at 2.4



I'm actually surprised JPP recorded the pressure needed to qualify for this stat...


Let's add on to that...

Counting this past week's game, JPP is now ranked 30th of 38 4-3 defensive ends in pass rush production (sack, QB hit, QB hurry) in the NFL among those who have played at least 50% of the teams snaps this season.

Kiwaunka is ranked #33. What does that tell you?
It is only fair  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2014 3:37 pm : link
to mention though that JPP is rated as the #1 overall 4-3
DE against the run in the entire NFL.

and overall he's the #3 DE in the NFC after Ayers and Michael Bennett in Seattle, #6 in the NFL.





What the last 2 posts tells me  
jeff57 : 11/17/2014 3:44 pm : link
is that JPP should be move and play LE and Damontre Moore should be playing RE.
RE: RE: RE: how much of Pugh's seeming ineffectiveness can be  
Victor in CT : 11/17/2014 3:44 pm : link
In comment 11984758 GIANTSr01 said:
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In comment 11984728 Victor in CT said:


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attributed to the garbage playing beside him?

Sorry about the multiple entry, computer acting up



The RG and C weren't a whole lot better last season.



People (BBI) hate on Diehl, but he was still better than Jerry.


Don't dignify the Diehl haters by identifying them as capable of rational thought. They were (are) morons. As we all can see now, there were no replacements available to move him out so they played him until he had nothing left.
RE: It is only fair  
sjnyfan : 11/17/2014 3:46 pm : link
In comment 11984830 pjcas18 said:
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to mention though that JPP is rated as the #1 overall 4-3
DE against the run in the entire NFL.

and overall he's the #3 DE in the NFC after Ayers and Michael Bennett in Seattle, #6 in the NFL.


Yup. I think JPP is playing out of position and his ratings show it. He should be playing LDE, Ayers should be RDE and Kiwi should be benched. That would make for a much better and more efficient D-Line
RE: RE: RE: No no no...Eli has lost his edge.  
RC02XX : 11/17/2014 3:49 pm : link
In comment 11984773 GiveShockeyTheBall said:
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LOL! But Eli is the reason we have sucked the past two season! THis site has turned into a joke.

Eli is playing behind the worst oline in the league since mid 2012. It is a miracle he hasn't been injured.


You don't know...Eli is the problem.

Actually...Bold Ruler and I were just mocking the stupid posts talking about Eli being the problem. One by GiantNatty and the other by Sy'56.
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Britt in VA : 11/17/2014 3:57 pm : link
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diable : 11/18/2014 5:31 am : link
David Deihk was worse and for YEARS !!! He was abused on +50% of the plays.

And Reese and Mara want Eli to go deep behind this OL!!!  
Bobby Epps : 11/18/2014 8:01 am : link
yeah, let him try to go deep and he will actually go deep- 6 feet under deep.
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