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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/18/2014 11:32 am
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Reuniting Tom Coughlin with Steve Spagnuolo could be perfect blueprint for NY Giants - ( New Window )
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Like Spags, but NO  
mdc1 : 11/18/2014 1:45 pm : link
time to reboot this team, gm, coaches, players. Modernize for today's NFL. It would be nice to actually see our player a game like they were prepared properly and give effort.

Right now we look like a govt agency, lots of talk, lots of activity and plans, but no productivity or results that matter.
RE: Let me also add this really doesn't solve the BIGGEST problem  
mdc1 : 11/18/2014 1:48 pm : link
In comment 11986409 Geeman said:
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The BIGGEST problem has been with the choices that have been made with regards to the PERSONNEL of this team. over the last 3 years the choices have just not been good, and regardless of the coaching, the talent has undermined a lot of that and the coaches haven't been able to develop enough players to field a playoff contender.


The coaching is also a big factor, and you should not let them off. I find it hard to believe that the majority of the guys on our roster could not be coached up to play at the levels we need. Coaching fail. That nobody linebacker for the Niners was making plays all over the field on Sunday.
I think some are exaggerating  
djm : 11/18/2014 1:54 pm : link
With how bad this thing is right now. Bad teams can turn things around with the current regime maintained. I'm not saying I want coughlin to stay but I'm also not sure I want him fired.

Words like disaster and blow it up fit the commentary but did coughlin forget how to coach? Or did the talent sink below the water mark?

Again, not saying I want him back but I am nervous that the next coach won't be right for the job and with a little roster tinkering coughlin can turn this ship around.

I hate this.
Good G-d no  
Matt M. : 11/18/2014 1:55 pm : link
He was not a special talent when he was here and has been less than stellar since leaving in a variety of roles. Plus, that move would stink of grooming the next HC and I want no part of him as a HC.
RE: He might be no savior  
Matt M. : 11/18/2014 1:56 pm : link
In comment 11986234 Greg from LI said:
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But I'd still take him over Fewell every day of the week.


I'd take anyone over Fewell really. But, I wouldn't want to look forward with Spags. I'd like a true and significant upgrade at DC.
RE: Why are we constantly...  
Matt M. : 11/18/2014 1:57 pm : link
In comment 11986237 Chris in Philly said:
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going backwards around here?

Let's bring back Spags! Let's bring back Parcells!

I love Spags, but what the hell has he done since he left?

Let's just draft well, and if we need to make any coaching changes, let's get some up and coming guys that can grow with the team.


For that matter, he didn't exactly light it up when he was here. The D got very hot at the right time for a SB run. The rest of his time, they were a mediocre D that got good pressure up front.
To be fair  
djm : 11/18/2014 1:58 pm : link
Maybe coughlin has had a big say in personnel and much of the roster failures are on him. I've always respected coughlin's team building prowess so maybe I need to take that into account. I killed fassel and reeves for the lack of talent and overall direction, I guess it's fair to get on coughlin too.

RE: RE: I like Spagnuolo, I'd welcome him back here.  
Hades07 : 11/18/2014 2:05 pm : link
In comment 11986426 Johnny5 said:
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In comment 11986405 shepherdsam said:


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but he's not the panacea some think he will be and he's not turning this defense into the 2007 Giants.


Agree with Mr Shep.
seconded.
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Spider 67 : 11/18/2014 6:02 pm : link
A 1 year competition to determine the next head coach? I should have stopped reading at that point. What would Tom Coughlin do, officiate?

McAdoo hasn't shown anything so far. So why do so many people think in the next season and a half he'll not only prove himself as an offensive coordinator, but be ready to be a head coach?. Fewell needs to go.(Quinn too) Tom Coughlin is too old, so he won't be here the next time they are good enough to be something in the playoffs. All new coordinators putting in new systems and learning their jobs with retirement looming? The next head coach will want to bring in his own staff.

As for Spags, I wouldn't mind him coming back as a DC or HC. Look how well Belicheck did after a few year break from his first head coaching job.
So what does Spags do with  
Zebra3 : 11/18/2014 7:23 pm : link
JPP Hankins Moore,Bromley
Williams Kennard McClain
Prince DRC Rolle Taylor
top 10 defense.
Spags isn't a magician, but he'd know what to do when  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 11/18/2014 7:30 pm : link
given an above average group of corners. The fact that Gary Myers thinks it's a good idea makes me think the opposite.
RE: Spags isn't a magician, but he'd know what to do when  
Johnny5 : 11/19/2014 11:57 am : link
In comment 11987395 Shockeyisthebest80 said:
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given an above average group of corners. The fact that Gary Myers thinks it's a good idea makes me think the opposite.

LOL!

True, true... however you shouldn't let that steer clear thinking. You know, the whole "Even a broken clock" thing.
for me its 50/50 with the D  
UConn4523 : 11/19/2014 12:04 pm : link
half on only having maybe 2 healthy impact players (Rolle/DRC, maybe JPP) and the other is Fewell. I'm not going to pretend that I watch tons of film or say Fewell doesn't know hot to blitz because i'd be lying like most others who boast.

But one thing I do know is there needs to be both an influx in new talent and new philosophy. I think we got the philosophy part down on offense with McAdoo (whether Coughlin holds him back is for another thread), but we've been so stale on D that i'd love to bring back a familiar face that came up with a fresh D to throw at one of the best SB runs in the history of the game.
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