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But according to Parcells, that lackluster record should not deny Coughlin the opportunity to turn the team around. Responding to criticism of Coughlin's dismissal, Parcells questioned why the Giants would be motivated to fire their coach. "The question is, OK, you want to fire him, who are you going to get that's better?" said Parcells in an interview on "The Michael Kay Show" on ESPN New York 98.7 FM. "It ends for all of us at some point in time, but we're not talking about someone that's incompetent here. His history shows that he's not incompetent," said Parcells. Former Giants Tiki Barber and Antonio Pierce have both called for Coughlin to be fired, accusing their him losing his grip over the locker room. Parcells did not agree, saying, "Losing the players, losing the team, I don't know where that comes from. It sure doesn't seem to be coming out of the locker room itself. It's coming from ancillary sources and people that used to play." Parcells says that the Giants' problems should not be blamed on their championship-duo of coach and quarterback, referring to Coughlin and Eli Manning. Instead, he listed personnel deficiencies on the offensive and defensive lines and at linebacker and injuries at wide receiver as key reasons for the team's struggles. "You're not playing solitaire out there," said Parcells. "You have to have enough help to be functional, and right now, I think the situation with their offensive line is a very difficult situation for any QB." Parcells firmly believes that Coughlin should not have to pay for the Giants' lost season. "I know who can coach and who can't coach," Parcells said, "and this guy can coach." |
Greg I get your point about the fullback position. Was just trying to use current players that were once lowly FA rookies to support my opinion. As to Hynoski, my impression is his overall game has improved but your are right in that it was just more incremental.
Your immediate next question has to be: "Okay, Bill, tell us the guys out there who can't coach."
Even if the scouts and the FO were terrible - a few good picks would sneak in and would progress after they hit the field. It seems even when we have picks that are lauded by other scouts and draftniks at draft time, they go backwards once they get here.
If anything, I think that's more indicative of a problem with coaching than it is with drafting. A broken clock is at least right twice a day, it seems like we've been batting 0 for some time now.
Exactly!! And when will people stop blaming Reese for these draft picks ? You can bet your ass, TC had a lot of say with the selection of these players. If not all. It's time for a coaching change period! TC is a good coach. But, I think he's overrated.
2014 Odell Beckham WR
2014 Weston Richburg OL
2014 Jay Bromley DT
2014 Andre Williams RB
2014 Nat Berhe SS .
2014 Devon Kennard LB
2014 Bennett Jackson CB
2013 Justin Pugh OL
2013 Johnathan Hankins DT
2013 Damontre Moore DE
2013 Ryan Nassib QB
2013 Cooper Taylor DB
2013 Eric Herman OL
2013 Michael Cox RB
2012 David Wilson RB
2012 Rueben Randle WR
2012 Jayron Hosley DB
2012 Adrien Robinson TE
2012 Brandon Mosley OL
2012 Matt McCants OL
2012 Markus Kuhn DT
2011 Prince Amukamara DB
2011 Marvin Austin DL
2011 Jerrel Jernigan WR
2011 James Brewer OL
2011 Greg Jones
2011 Tyler Sash SS
2011 Jacquian Williams LB
2011 DaRel Scott RB
2010 Jason Pierre-Paul DE
2010 Linval Joseph DT
2010 Chad Jones DB
2010 Phillip Dillard LB
2010 Mitch Petrus G
2010 Adrian Tracy DE
2010 Matt Dodge P
2009 Hakeem Nicks WR
2009 Clint Sintim LB
2009 Will Beatty T
2009 Ramses Barden WR
2009 Travis Beckum TE
2009 Andre Brown RB
2009 Rhett Bomar QB
2009 DeAndre Wright
2009 Stoney Woodson DB
2008 Kenny Phillips DB
2008 Terrell Thomas DB
2008 Mario Manningham WR
2008 Bryan Kehl LB
2008 Jonathan Goff LB
2008 Andre Woodson QB
2008 Robert Henderson DE
2007 Aaron Ross
2007 Steve Smith WR
2007 Jay Alford
2007 Zak DeOssie LB
2007 Kevin Boss TE
2007 Adam Koets T .
2007 Michael Johnson DB
2007 Ahmad Bradshaw
Wow! a whole lot of swings and misses there.
2011 Marvin Austin DL
2011 Jerrel Jernigan WR
2011 James Brewer OL
2011 Greg Jones
2011 Tyler Sash SS
2011 Jacquian Williams LB
2011 DaRel Scott RB
Except for Prince they all were lousy picks. Even though Williams is a sometime starter, he's barely mediocre.
Between the 2011 and 2012 drafts you would think that those players would be flourishing in their 3rd and 4th year in the league. Ugh.
I know this is crazy talk, but the Giants could probably have rolled up all the selections after Prince into another first round selection (or a high second round) and have been better off. The point being is that their selections after the first round have been mostly terrible (save for the occasional Bradshaw or Armstead).
Curious post. You think Coughlin is overrated. Based on what?
What expertise do you have to "rate" Coughlin as a NFL head coach? What data do you have that enables you to evaluate "coaching" ability independent of the players/talent available to work with?
We are just in the slate wiping part right now. I'm confident that he can do it again.
Even if the scouts and the FO were terrible - a few good picks would sneak in and would progress after they hit the field. It seems even when we have picks that are lauded by other scouts and draftniks at draft time, they go backwards once they get here.
If anything, I think that's more indicative of a problem with coaching than it is with drafting. A broken clock is at least right twice a day, it seems like we've been batting 0 for some time now.
totally agree with u. I scratch my head seeing overpaid Kiwi starting and Moore who has potential sitting on bench. This is the fault of one person, hint, its not Reese
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I mean - almost nobody ends up progressing the past few years. Guys sit in favor of vets who are terrible, well past their prime. We reserve roster spots for players who might not even be in the practice squad on other teams, and you think this is entirely a FO problem?
Even if the scouts and the FO were terrible - a few good picks would sneak in and would progress after they hit the field. It seems even when we have picks that are lauded by other scouts and draftniks at draft time, they go backwards once they get here.
If anything, I think that's more indicative of a problem with coaching than it is with drafting. A broken clock is at least right twice a day, it seems like we've been batting 0 for some time now.
totally agree with u. I scratch my head seeing overpaid Kiwi starting and Moore who has potential sitting on bench. This is the fault of one person, hint, its not Reese
Seriously. How could anyone not see how completely incompetent Coughlin is? And to think some people actually suggest the man may some time get into the HOF based upon his coaching career? Gimme a break! The man couldn't coach himself out of a fucking paper bag. I mean, he has no idea of the quality of his players. And just look at how well those players have done AFTER they leave and go to other teams!! Coughlin is the worst.
AMEN Tuna! And looking at those drafts... Yeah.. I get that the draft is a crapshoot.. and there are some hits.. but far more misses with some bad luck sprinkled in... Jones, Wilson.. But wow... I'd love to see how other teams compare from a still in the NFL standpoint... Our drafts have been terrible...