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Richburg Benched?

Jintfan50 : 11/21/2014 6:47 am
This is their answer? I'm sorry, but clean house, please.
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I also suspect his leg is a bit worse  
JonC : 11/21/2014 3:15 pm : link
than it was thought to be when he tried to play a week later.
Richburg himself said he's hit the wall  
JonC : 11/21/2014 3:16 pm : link
I forget the exact quote, but that and the leg are significant factors.
People are such armchair coaches  
armstead98 : 11/21/2014 3:22 pm : link
They criticize the move without knowing 99% of what's going on behind closed doors.

It's been alluded to here but there are so many factors, injury included, that go into a decision like this.

Of course people are just using it to further their agenda (fire the coaches) so they're happy to assume that the benching is for a very narrow reason, if it even is a benching.
RE: RE: RE: rookies are 21-23 year old young men  
JonC : 11/21/2014 3:28 pm : link
In comment 11991869 JonC said:
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In comment 11991860 Les in TO said:


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In comment 11991601 JonC said:


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most are not fully equipped out of the gate to perform well for a full season.

Too, he's got a significant leg injury that's damaged his performance level.



i don't mind resting him for reason #2 at all.

re: reason #1, even if you are not playing at a high level for all 16 games as a rookie, i would think the playing time experience in the trenches would be invaluable. as well, as a pro athlete, they don't need to worry about their grades, essays and other academic requirements. and as a pro athlete, they are freak physical specimens that have more strength/speed/power/athleticism than normal 21-23 year olds. they can just focus on being the best football player they can be leveraging the resources that the team has to ensure they are in peak condition for sundays.



As a fan I don't disagree. But, I'm aware the coaches don't remotely think in the same manner, therefore, I don't bother wasting the energy wondering why they do what they do.


That's not to suggest you aren't aware, poorly written on my part.
RE: And how many rookies around the league  
OC : 11/21/2014 4:05 pm : link
In comment 11991432 TomTom said:
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are opening day starters?


Oh shit! Here comes the Zach Martin Posse!
lol...people take "TC never plays rookies" too literally...  
SHO'NUFF : 11/21/2014 5:47 pm : link
not like he NEVER plays rookies...but rookies have a hard time seeing the field because Coughlin likes to keep in NFL veterans longer than they deserve to be.
Is he benched or hurt?  
Some Fan : 11/21/2014 8:02 pm : link
Or is it that he is hurt and playing like shit?
As I have stated previously, Richburg  
Bobby Epps : 11/22/2014 1:02 pm : link
was drafted too high, in the 2d Round.. IMO he's been terrible on running plays, getting no push- not a road-grader and OK as a pass-blocker..

In Saturday's Reading (greatly appreciated from Defenderdawg), PFF states that Richburg is the 8th best LG in pass-blocking.

OK but in the same article, they reviewed other rookies, as follows:

Bryan Stork Patriots starting C 4th Round pick: -0- sacks.

Corey Linsley.starting C Packers 5th Round 10th best pass-blockng C.

Travis Swanson drafted as C but starting LG Lions 3d Round pick: -0- sacks.

Brandon Linder starting OG Jaguars 3d Round pick: 8th best OG.

I agree that it's too early to pass judgment on Richburg career but I wrote when he was drafted that he was drafted too high- too small and not pro-strong.

If we wanted a C, we could have drafted one in the 4th or 5th Rounds and drafted someone else in the 2d Round and still wound up with a starting rookie C playing at a high level. For example, Stephon Tuitt, drafted by the Steelers in the 2d Round, would have been available to the Giants; he's rated a top 15 DE.



Hard for any one player to stand out for positive performance  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2014 1:06 pm : link
when William Beatty has been the best performer on the OL.

You're as good as your weakest link. Walton and Jerry haven't been very good at all, and it makes everyone else look bad for it.
ten  
diable : 11/22/2014 1:55 pm : link
Will Beatty is a good tackle. The main issue with the oline have been injuries.
Schwartz
Mosley
Pugh
Brewer
Richburgh

Can't be surprised when 3rd/4th stringers struggle.
Another wasted draft  
Earl the goat : 11/23/2014 9:07 am : link
By jerry Reese
Drafting science or art  
Colin@gbn : 11/23/2014 9:41 am : link
Bobby Epps et al: I really think you guys at BBI are really onto something; in fact, I recently actually sent an e-mail to Jerry Reese suggesting that the Giants are making a big mistake making their picks at the actual draft and that they would have a much better chance of success if they waited until say at least mid-season to make their selections. (I am still waiting for a reply so I figure JR and company are still thinking on it!)
^  
That Said : 11/23/2014 9:42 am : link
Funny.
Bobby Epps  
BigBlueShock : 11/23/2014 9:50 am : link
Stephon Tuitt is rated a top 15 DE? Oh really? You do realize that Tuitt has a grand total of FIVE tackles on the season, right. Zero sacks, FIVE tackles.

Boy, the Giants really screwed that one up. I guess it's only players drafted by other teams that get the benefit of the doubt, huh?
I still believe the Giants were aiming for Lewan  
Giants2012 : 11/23/2014 11:45 am : link
and figured Beckum was gone.

Once they took Beckum, OL was a must in the 2nd. I like Richburg a lot yet think, like Pugh, the Giants went need over BAP.
BigBlueShock: I'm just quoting from the  
Bobby Epps : 11/23/2014 12:11 pm : link
same article that rated Richburg the 8th best LG.

Plus I was using Tuitt as an example. There are a lot of other very good rookies drafted after Richburg who are playing well.

I'm still sticking to my main point: IMO Richburg was drafted way too high.
Colin@gbn: So I guess you believe that Richurg should  
Bobby Epps : 11/23/2014 12:27 pm : link
have been drafted in the 2d Round?

I guess we'll have to wait and see how Richburg's career progresses vs. other rookie OL drafted after him.

BTW at the time of this year's draft I wrote on BBI that IMO Richburg was drafted way too high. What was your evaluation?

BTW I also wrote at the time that I could not understand the drafting of Berhe and Bennett Jackson as DBs. My reasoning was that as a result of the FA signings plus the DBs already on the roster, there were other positions where rookies should have been drafted. Despite the fact that we're decimated at Safety, Demps and Stevie Brown are playing ahead of Berhe and Jackson is not on the roster, with Mike Davis, Chykie Brown and Chandler Fenner there instead. Zach Fulton, drafted immediately after Bennett Jackson, would have been a nice addition to the OL.

Do you think Berhe and Jackson were good choices?
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