Everything else aside, it sure would be nice...

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A win will not improve our draft status...some on BBI

were bashed alittle...

i wonder if the same will happen here

Go Giants!

after that I am fully rooting for the Cowboys to win the division. Packers/Lions grab one WC and Seahawks/Niners grab the other. Eagles stay home and the trophy case remains empty.

That's what I have left to root for this season and I'm stickin to it. Let the young guys develop and look to 2015.

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And wouldn't even mind a skullfucking.

If it takes skullfucking to piss off management enough to force changes, then here is my skull! Fuck it.

Quality wins from here on out only do the job of convincing some people that we really can compete when everything comes together. Fans that want us to win out and would be happy with the moral victory of a 9-7 season and missing the playoffs yet again in the Eli/Coughlin/Reese era can get out my face.

If they some how beat dallas (which could happen because they could over look us since philly is a huge game for first on thanksgiving) they could possibly lose to the eagles. giants could creep up. if the eagles fall apart with sanchez, giants could end up playing for the division week 17. sounds crazy, but let's face it, the giants do crazy things. the pressure is on the cowboys and eagles. Giants are actually pretty dangerous right now. they have nothing left to lose.

one on one, mano a mano.

Nothing to do with records, the draft, etc...

Just kick their ass just to feel good about themselves again. Give the fans some hope for next year, and a nice holiday for everybody (except Cowboys fans).

they'll battle with a lot of heart for a half (and look somewhat competitive and cohesive), and then fall in defeat (pile up the higher draft picks). Win win?

Giants played better. eli had a shitty game unfortunaty, but it is not over. eagles and cowboys have to play twice. they both have harder schedules the rest of the way. we have them both at home. if the giants win out (though they give us plenty of reason to doubt it) but lets say they do, we can actually make the playoffs by winning the division.

doesn't live with these fucking cock faced mutant dallas fans trolling all over north jersey.

Please win sunday. Please. Just win this game.

How about we just be miserable instead??

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you are what your record says you are.....

If it was one thing you had to correct, that is one thing.....but this team, finds ways to screw up, from a multitude of angles....the opportunities are there, and this team, just does not take advantage of it, or it creates it's own mistakes, and FINDS a way to lose.....

The fumble by Demps, the fumble by Donnell, the two fumbles in a drive by Seattle, the 4 yard line fiasco last week.....it just happens week after week, where this team manages to shoot itself in the foot....there are too many games where this team does not show up.....and yes while there have been injuries, there have been plays that should have been made by these professionals.....it's sad, when a team has to play mistake free football, to beat a team with a winning record...

We're going to get our asses kicked.

beating anyone, but I've had a feeling this could be an upset win.

years. Hate losing to them.

and if it screws up a few fans future plans well so be it. Said it before and I'll say it again, I have a finite number of games left and want to enjoy them while I can.

If the Giants lose out and get a high pick there is still no guarantee they won't screw it up so why hope for something which may not help?

I thought the Giants were going to win last week and we all no how this turned out. I think they get killed Sunday...so maybe they'll still a win.

You just never know!

no=know...still=steal...

I am typing like the Giants play!

It won't say anything significant about this season and it will say nothing about next season. I don't care about the Cowboys players or fans. I don't care how they feel, what they think or do. I want the Giants to be a, for real, better team, sooner rather than later. I won't root for a bad result, but won't feel bad about one. This isn't a good team. Temporary illusions to the contrary serve none of us well.

and be happy when I turn the TV off.

wishing and wanting, I want the Giants to have a big enough lead to put Nassib in.

In comment 11991628 vibe4giants said:

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It won't say anything significant about this season and it will say nothing about next season. I don't care about the Cowboys players or fans. I don't care how they feel, what they think or do. I want the Giants to be a, for real, better team, sooner rather than later. I won't root for a bad result, but won't feel bad about one. This isn't a good team. Temporary illusions to the contrary serve none of us well.

Agreed. Can't root for them to lose, but can't root for them to win either knowing the downside to winning at this point. Really a no-win situation, sadly.

....Top 5 Draft Pick, Last Place Schedule And Full Regime Change.

All Are Absolutely Needed So That We Don't Miss The Playoffs For A FOURTH straight Year Next Season.

Variables aside, and they can lose out after this for all I care, but I just want one more win for this season to last me until next year.

itself any longer. To be able to point at mirages and say, 'See? We're almost there!'

We're not. The inertia has locked in. We've felt like shit after enough Giants games over the last few seasons. And not enough has changed. Which tells me there hasn't been enough pain yet for the organization. So if that's what it'll take, so be it. It's their choice, not ours.

Beating the Cowboys isn't going to make me feel any better about a team that is going nowhere. There's no hope for this season. No point in pretending.

I certainly won't feel bad if the Giants win. But it seems like the only wins the Giants get recently have been insignificant wins that people point to as signs of hope. After last years 0-6, people told themselves 7-3 down the stretch meant something. It didn't. Meaningless wins are meaning less.

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In comment 11991662 Britt in VA said:

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Variables aside, and they can lose out after this for all I care, but I just want one more win for this season to last me until next year.

I hear you. And I certainly don't begrudge you that feeling.

It sucks, but jcn's turn of phrase is most apt. It feels like a no win situation.

Back up the truck for those higher draft picks.

And, then fire Marc Ross. Thank you, drive through.

A 9-7 finish, however unlikely, would put us in playoff contention and not be meaningless.

You don't fire the coaches or GM in November. You play football games. Every game I watch the Giants play, I hope they win.

Plenty of time for reassessing, and head lopping, if necessary, in January.

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And ended up with Beckham. Not a bad pick. Have to try to win every game unless we're talking an Andrew Luck draft which is very rare. Can't stand when people want to play out the string. That's not how you build a football team or a football culture.

before the house cleaners are called. An embarrassing loss to the hated cowboys on prime time at home would certainly expedite that process. Most are tired of mediocre football from this group which has been going on for a very long time. Enough.

Enough of hearing the cry..."one more year", and reminiscing about past glory. That and $2.50 gets you a cup a cold coffee and lots of empty seats.

When you turn over a substantial part of your team, and the results are even worse as a result, there has to be a reckoning. Injuries should not protect anybody's job after the dust settles, but if it does, we'll most likely be right back here a year from now wondering what the hell happened (when we already knew the answers).

I'd feel better beating the Cowboys if we were knocking them out of a playoff spot. We'd really only be helping the Eagles and hurting our draft positioning.

Not that I'm rooting against us, which that post probably made it sound like. I'm just pretty dispassionate at this stage.

a healthy portion of this roster will (or should) be gone after this season, as well as some from the coaching staff, and potentially in the front office.

This organization needs an enema, it's time for vast change, imo. No sense in winning 6 games, retaining players/coaches that should be replaced so the future can actually begin in full.

Despite the outward comments, I tend to think the team didn't understand its positioning as of late last season. I think they've been in a bit of a denial for awhile about how bad certain aspects of the team are.

And I think the benefits of late season winning streaks are overstated.

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And ended up with Beckham. Not a bad pick. Have to try to win every game unless we're talking an Andrew Luck draft which is very rare. Can't stand when people want to play out the string. That's not how you build a football team or a football culture.

Going 7-3 down the stretch last season helped build this season. So if you want to set the bar at awful-to-mediocre football, you just have to hope for more of the same. That's the current Giants football team and culture. I don't feel badly about want to see this dramatically improved. Fans of the status quo, enjoy.

but I cannot watch the Giants play and not root for them to win. It can't be done.

It's a question of not being so bothered if they don't win.

but I'm willing to accept the losses after the fact as means to strip the status quo.

In comment 11991721 shepherdsam said:

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but I cannot watch the Giants play and not root for them to win. It can't be done.

I definitely was in 2003 towards the end. Not cheering when the opposition scored, but I was hoping we'd lose.

When the game is on though, I'm actively rooting for the win, even late In hopeless games. I can't do otherwise, it's not an option.

we've all had to accept losses for awhile now. Not much other choice.

And no, they don't ruin my week like they used to. The team bought itself a lot of credit with me 2005-2011.

But I do like to see them win every once in awhile. And we haven't had a lot of winning lately.

I'm saying I cannot stop rooting for them, I can't watch a Giants game dispassionately, it's not within me.

I'm rooting for an entire season of football I can feel good about.

Not for something that will make me feel moderately better for a few hours.

that writing about it on a Friday afternoon. I'll be caught up in it for as long as it's a competitive game. But I know by now what it looks like when the Giants are checked out. And if they're not playing passionately, or competently, I'm certainly not going to be more into the game then they are.

I'm confidant that moving up a few slots in the draft order is not going to be the deciding factor on how next year goes.

Like I said, you guys aren't wrong but I can't do it.

If only (for selfish reasons) to walk out of the stadium Sunday night from my seats in the last damn row and enjoy every second of that walk, instead of hearing annoying bandwagon jumping Cowdicks hoot and holla after the game.

wouldn't it be in out best interest if the cowboys or eagles win the SB?