Has anyone noticed that after we play the Cowboys, our next 4 opponents have a combined record of 8 wins & 30 losses? It is too bad that the weakest part of the schedule comes at the end, when the Giants are already beaten up & probably dispirited. Even in this condition though, they are good enough to beat the Jaguars, Redskins, Titans, & Rams.
"Don't give up the ship." (John Paul Jones). I wonder if JPJ can play RG?
They both agree in past and present evaluation.
They both have to go.
Hope that our O-line does not get Eli killed by their D-line.
Hope that our O-line does not get Eli killed by their D-line.
Agreed in fact pencil that one in as a loss. Not sure you can actually say that any one game is a certain win at this juncture especially considering we have plenty of season left for poor play and the injury bug to bite us again and again.
Oh, I accept it. That's why my post was "if somehow", not "I think we can"
This team needs some serious help and, quite frankly, don't see Reese as the guy to make it better. Maybe Reese is the guy tat will get the ax, rather then TC! That would make the season end well IMO.
All NFL teams are flawed.
And this is still Coughlin's team. His, the coaches and the players season to salvage or not starting tomorrow.
Just like Will Hill, the Giant's 2014 season is all out of second chances.
Coughlin farewell tour likely starts if we lose tomorrow.
Not for nothing, but didn't they finish like 7-2 down the stretch last season. It didn't carry over to this season. So finishing on a great note doesn't carry into the other season..they're new seasons
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the draft spot issue, but if we somehow run the table, I don't think it would be meaningless. Unlike last season, it would be going into the off season with the needle pointing up, having beaten a couple of pretty good teams in Dallas and the Rams along with the bad teams.
Not for nothing, but didn't they finish like 7-2 down the stretch last season. It didn't carry over to this season. So finishing on a great note doesn't carry into the other season..they're new seasons
Micky you make a valid point but isn't it perferable to end on a brighter note. Would you not want players leaving at season end being up beat about themselves and the future of their team?
To hang your hat on 4 straight wins against teams without starting qb's, 2 wins against a Washington club that was much worse than us, and beating Detroit on a tipped pass, because our offense did absolutely nothing in the second half of that game, was all smoke and mirrors....
Chances are we lose to Dallas....that means for the second straight season, this team has lost 6 in a row.....how many times do you have to be hit over the head with a bat for reality to sink in?
Hey, it's possible, the Giants win....The Jets beat the Steelers....the Raydah's beat the Chiefs.....those games happen.....but it it doesn't change the fact that these teams are bad....I hope the Giants don't go on a streak after the Dallas game, and create the same illusion as last year.....finishing 6-10, 7-9 would do that.....
As for the draft pick, yes getting a few more wins would cost us a few spots in the draft.....at first I wanted the Giants to lose, to get a better pick....but the reality is, the same people are in place that have screwed up our drafts, for the last 8 years.....yes, we probably hit on the first round(kind of a no brainer), but what about the second round and beyond? I want guys playing out there, the Kennards, Moores, Berhes, Nassibs,etc......I want to see what they can do in real games, not hear about how great they look in practice, going up against their own team mates.....of course, the mindset of these coaches is to try to win to save their jobs, and moves like this could jeopardize them.....this team, for a long time, has kept guys on the roster without using them, year after year....use them....see what they can do.....make the hard decisions....the sooner the process is started, the better....this team has had it's head in the sand, since before the start of the 2011 season.....time to take it out and take a deep breath.....
To hang your hat on 4 straight wins against teams without starting qb's, 2 wins against a Washington club that was much worse than us, and beating Detroit on a tipped pass, because our offense did absolutely nothing in the second half of that game, was all smoke and mirrors....
Chances are we lose to Dallas....that means for the second straight season, this team has lost 6 in a row.....how many times do you have to be hit over the head with a bat for reality to sink in?
Hey, it's possible, the Giants win....The Jets beat the Steelers....the Raydah's beat the Chiefs.....those games happen.....but it it doesn't change the fact that these teams are bad....I hope the Giants don't go on a streak after the Dallas game, and create the same illusion as last year.....finishing 6-10, 7-9 would do that.....
As for the draft pick, yes getting a few more wins would cost us a few spots in the draft.....at first I wanted the Giants to lose, to get a better pick....but the reality is, the same people are in place that have screwed up our drafts, for the last 8 years.....yes, we probably hit on the first round(kind of a no brainer), but what about the second round and beyond? I want guys playing out there, the Kennards, Moores, Berhes, Nassibs,etc......I want to see what they can do in real games, not hear about how great they look in practice, going up against their own team mates.....of course, the mindset of these coaches is to try to win to save their jobs, and moves like this could jeopardize them.....this team, for a long time, has kept guys on the roster without using them, year after year....use them....see what they can do.....make the hard decisions....the sooner the process is started, the better....this team has had it's head in the sand, since before the start of the 2011 season.....time to take it out and take a deep breath.....
You want Nassib playing over Eli Manning?
We started 0-6 and the next 10 finished 7-3 last season, how is that not going into the offseason with the needle pointing up?
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the draft spot issue, but if we somehow run the table, I don't think it would be meaningless. Unlike last season, it would be going into the off season with the needle pointing up, having beaten a couple of pretty good teams in Dallas and the Rams along with the bad teams.
Not for nothing, but didn't they finish like 7-2 down the stretch last season. It didn't carry over to this season. So finishing on a great note doesn't carry into the other season..they're new seasons
The difference would be the changes on offense (not the OL) perhaps coming to fruition and going 6-0 beating 3 good teams in Dallas, Philly, and the Rams, vs 7-2 against bad teams with bad or backup QBs. Nothing would be guaranteed for next year, but I would be happy with that finish.
Is ending the season on a positive note and making off season changes to move the team forward mutually exclusive?
Disagree. If the team does make the playoffs (not likely), then maybe most of the staff is worth keeping, and maybe it is all injuries and bad drafting ... not coaching. Just sayin
So you think the difference between success and failure from this point forward is when we select next year? Dude, we need about 12 players.
"Don't give up the ship." (John Paul Jones). I wonder if JPJ can play RG?
The opponents you site coming up are all looking at the Giants as the one game on their schedule they can say "Damn, we sure as hell can win this one this week."
The Giants are 4 (FOUR) games out of the last playoff spot.
The Giants are 1 (ONE) game out from being tied for having the NFC's worst record.