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Perry Fewell defenders

dep026 : 11/23/2014 11:35 pm
please step up.
Total fucking garbage  
Ben in Tampa : 11/23/2014 11:37 pm : link
Could see it coming a mile away
Perry Fuckin Fewell the worst DC in the League hands down  
prdave73 : 11/23/2014 11:37 pm : link
and it showed!!!! No blitz???? Piece of shit DC!!
What now ARC?? How do you defend Fewell now????
Worst DC to win an SB ever?  
hudson : 11/23/2014 11:37 pm : link
......
I'm not a fewell defender  
RoadWarriorz : 11/23/2014 11:38 pm : link
But I do t see what he can do when your defensive line is void of talent. I don't see any defensive coordinator being effective with a pass rush like this.
He sucks, the talent sucks, the entire defense is just a steaming  
Riggies : 11/23/2014 11:39 pm : link
heap of shit -- relative to the current NFL standard too, so spare the "It's a different game" tripe.
RE: I'm not a fewell defender  
dep026 : 11/23/2014 11:39 pm : link
In comment 11995789 RoadWarriorz said:
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But I do t see what he can do when your defensive line is void of talent. I don't see any defensive coordinator being effective with a pass rush like this.


The Redskins brought an all out blitz and had great blitz design. Our blitz design is running out LB into an OL and hope our DE gets there.

HE FUCKING BLOWS.
i dont care about no blitz...  
hitdog42 : 11/23/2014 11:40 pm : link
we are up 4.
but to not have ayers or moore in.... play kiwi every snap... just very strange. Frankly makes no sense at all.
So you get zero pressure with a four-man rush...  
Dunedin81 : 11/23/2014 11:41 pm : link
such that Romo has ten seconds to throw the ball. So you throw exactly the same four men at Romo and expect better results. A decent QB can find an open receiver if he has all day to throw the ball. Change SOMETHING up. Personnel. Bring another rusher. Something.
ummm when you don't have dline talent  
nygmen84 : 11/23/2014 11:43 pm : link
You blitz and send extra men . You play to your weakness and get burned play after play like our dumbass DC does.
Hitdog,  
prdave73 : 11/23/2014 11:44 pm : link
Exactly I was wondering the same thing??!! How do you not have Moore or Ayers?? WTF??! On a struggling front four and you don't blitz one time?? Fewell is just plain horrible..
I think I finally understand Fewell...  
trueblueinpw : 11/23/2014 11:45 pm : link
In practice, his four rushers probably get to Eli on every play. So, he just figures that every offensive line is as shitty as ours.
The rationale was pretty obviously..  
arcarsenal : 11/23/2014 11:46 pm : link
.. not trusting these DB's in man to man coverage but what the hell is the point of just rushing 4 against the Cowboy OL and giving Tony Romo 500 seconds to throw the ball?

I would have rather sent extra men and made Romo get the ball out fast. If they beat 1 on 1's and score fast, so be it.. it leaves us more time anyway.

Terrible way to play that series and you knew they were going to score. It was just a matter of time. Garbage.
No stunts  
Bobby Epps : 11/23/2014 11:46 pm : link
No blitzes.

Guess Fewell nver heard of either one.
RE: The rationale was pretty obviously..  
dep026 : 11/23/2014 11:47 pm : link
In comment 11995905 arcarsenal said:
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.. not trusting these DB's in man to man coverage but what the hell is the point of just rushing 4 against the Cowboy OL and giving Tony Romo 500 seconds to throw the ball?

I would have rather sent extra men and made Romo get the ball out fast. If they beat 1 on 1's and score fast, so be it.. it leaves us more time anyway.

Terrible way to play that series and you knew they were going to score. It was just a matter of time. Garbage.


There's his main defender!!!!

#Fewell4life
He rushes 4 and drops all others in coverage  
spike : 11/23/2014 11:49 pm : link
hoping for an INT.

He should instead rush 0 and drop all eleven in coverage, jackass
If you read that post as me defending him..  
arcarsenal : 11/23/2014 11:49 pm : link
You are missing a few marbles.

Try it again, buddy.
when arc bails on Fewell  
chris r : 11/23/2014 11:50 pm : link
you know the ship be sinking.

I hope he enjoys coaching DBs next year.
Everyones fault but Coughlin huh?  
Rflairr : 11/23/2014 11:50 pm : link
Shit is getting old. Its him AND his staff
RE: Everyones fault but Coughlin huh?  
Danny Kanell : 11/23/2014 11:51 pm : link
In comment 11995982 Rflairr said:
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Shit is getting old. Its him AND his staff


Agreed
Fewell is awful...  
Chris in Philly : 11/23/2014 11:52 pm : link
but Eli's awful pass to Parker is where the game turned.
RE: If you read that post as me defending him..  
dep026 : 11/23/2014 11:52 pm : link
In comment 11995975 arcarsenal said:
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You are missing a few marbles.

Try it again, buddy.


No one supported him more than you. Dont flip on him now. Tonight is no different than what he has done for 90% of his tenure here.
RE: Fewell is awful...  
dep026 : 11/23/2014 11:52 pm : link
In comment 11996017 Chris in Philly said:
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but Eli's awful pass to Parker is where the game turned.


lol. Sure it did.
....  
yankees78 : 11/23/2014 11:53 pm : link
Fire him tonight
Should be fired  
Carl in CT : 11/23/2014 11:53 pm : link
By morning! No excuse.
RE: RE: If you read that post as me defending him..  
arcarsenal : 11/23/2014 11:54 pm : link
In comment 11996019 dep026 said:
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In comment 11995975 arcarsenal said:


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You are missing a few marbles.

Try it again, buddy.



No one supported him more than you. Dont flip on him now. Tonight is no different than what he has done for 90% of his tenure here.


Heh.. alright. If you're going to be an asshole, go for it.

Everyone pile on. I know nothing about football.
this is why it didn't matter if we scored from the 4 last week  
PetesHereNow : 11/23/2014 11:55 pm : link
Cause I guarantee if we had, Niners would have come down and scored the winning field goal.

We need a heat seeking Patrick Willis type of linebacker so bad on this defense that it's sick.
Hey Perry  
Daniel in MI : 11/23/2014 11:55 pm : link
how about something more exotic. Corner blitz? Send 3 guys through 1 gap? Overload a side? Anything? Hello, is this brain on? Hello?

Shit, he's just smiling. I think he's broken.
RE: i dont care about no blitz...  
shabu : 11/23/2014 11:56 pm : link
In comment 11995806 hitdog42 said:
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we are up 4.
but to not have ayers or moore in.... play kiwi every snap... just very strange. Frankly makes no sense at all.


Is this true ? Ayers and Moore were not on last drive ? I find that hard to believe... is this true gents ?
RE: RE: Fewell is awful...  
Chris in Philly : 11/23/2014 11:56 pm : link
In comment 11996024 dep026 said:
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In comment 11996017 Chris in Philly said:


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but Eli's awful pass to Parker is where the game turned.



lol. Sure it did.


I know.
RE: The rationale was pretty obviously..  
shabu : 11/23/2014 11:57 pm : link
In comment 11995905 arcarsenal said:
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.. not trusting these DB's in man to man coverage but what the hell is the point of just rushing 4 against the Cowboy OL and giving Tony Romo 500 seconds to throw the ball?

I would have rather sent extra men and made Romo get the ball out fast. If they beat 1 on 1's and score fast, so be it.. it leaves us more time anyway.

Terrible way to play that series and you knew they were going to score. It was just a matter of time. Garbage.


Arc, u nailed it there in bold
Dep you have lost it, man  
Kyle in NY : 11/23/2014 11:58 pm : link
Arc isn't drfending one bit.

But worse than the four man rush is having kiwi and Kuhn out there as part of it. Just no shot
I don't recall seeing Moore or Ayers on the last drive  
Matt M. : 11/23/2014 11:59 pm : link
I don't care how good the OL is. Those final plays by Dallas were absolutely pathetic by our defense.
You guys are late to the party  
JoefromPa : 11/24/2014 12:02 am : link
I thought he stunk 3 years ago. I also was of the opinion that he was the co ordinator that needed to go after last season.
He's not good  
micky : 11/24/2014 12:13 am : link
but they'll give him a mulligan and he'll be back likely.
RE: RE: The rationale was pretty obviously..  
jeff57 : 11/24/2014 12:16 am : link
In comment 11996106 shabu said:
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In comment 11995905 arcarsenal said:


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.. not trusting these DB's in man to man coverage but what the hell is the point of just rushing 4 against the Cowboy OL and giving Tony Romo 500 seconds to throw the ball?

I would have rather sent extra men and made Romo get the ball out fast. If they beat 1 on 1's and score fast, so be it.. it leaves us more time anyway.

Terrible way to play that series and you knew they were going to score. It was just a matter of time. Garbage.



Arc, u nailed it there in bold


That's too sophisticated thinking for Perry Futile. We must rush 4. With Kiwi and no Moore. Why? Just because
RE: The rationale was pretty obviously..  
Exit 172 : 11/24/2014 12:16 am : link
In comment 11995905 arcarsenal said:
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.. not trusting these DB's in man to man coverage but what the hell is the point of just rushing 4 against the Cowboy OL and giving Tony Romo 500 seconds to throw the ball?

I would have rather sent extra men and made Romo get the ball out fast. If they beat 1 on 1's and score fast, so be it.. it leaves us more time anyway.

Terrible way to play that series and you knew they were going to score. It was just a matter of time. Garbage.


Good post, arc.
RE: He's not good  
arcarsenal : 11/24/2014 12:19 am : link
In comment 11996289 micky said:
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but they'll give him a mulligan and he'll be back likely.


No way. If anyone is losing their job this year he's the guy. There's no question about it. There's really no way they can keep him after this.. even if we are of the belief that the personnel is mostly shitty (which it is), you just can't excuse a year like this and not hold anyone accountable.

He'll be fired and everyone can rejoice. I just hope the next guy gets a little more than this to work with because if he doesn't, not a whole lot is going to change in terms of results. I do feel that we could find someone better, though... depending on who shakes free. We'd probably have to fire Coughlin to hire a defensive minded coach like Bowles or Quinn, though.

Unless someone like Rivera gets fired and is willing to take a coordinator job.
RE: RE: Fewell is awful...  
djm : 11/24/2014 12:22 am : link
In comment 11996024 dep026 said:
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In comment 11996017 Chris in Philly said:


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but Eli's awful pass to Parker is where the game turned.



lol. Sure it did.


If you don't think this game turned on the int you are completely clueless. I'll allow for Eli to be credited with a damn good grade tonight but dude, stop... The game turned on a dime right there and you know it. Don't throw fuxking stats or defensive breakdowns at me. If Eli hits a wide open WR we may very well win tonight.
I don't think it was rational  
chris r : 11/24/2014 12:22 am : link
to not trust the DBs. You've got an 8 million dollar man in DRC, have some confidence in him vs Dez. Terrence Williams is alright but not someone you don't blitz on account of.

I think last night was a perfect example of why Perry's only good stretch against good competition was in 2011 when the pass rush stepped up.

I can't remember the last time a Giants' blitz consistently worked and overwhelmed/confused the opposition.

Maybe against Vick a few years ago when Rolle was blitzing him from the right side?
RE: RE: He's not good  
micky : 11/24/2014 12:23 am : link
In comment 11996334 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 11996289 micky said:


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but they'll give him a mulligan and he'll be back likely.



No way. If anyone is losing their job this year he's the guy. There's no question about it. There's really no way they can keep him after this.. even if we are of the belief that the personnel is mostly shitty (which it is), you just can't excuse a year like this and not hold anyone accountable.

He'll be fired and everyone can rejoice. I just hope the next guy gets a little more than this to work with because if he doesn't, not a whole lot is going to change in terms of results. I do feel that we could find someone better, though... depending on who shakes free. We'd probably have to fire Coughlin to hire a defensive minded coach like Bowles or Quinn, though.

Unless someone like Rivera gets fired and is willing to take a coordinator job.


I agree he should be gone..but no way is Mara undermining TC again this offseason. PF is TC's guy.
I'd bet a lot of money  
djm : 11/24/2014 12:23 am : link
That fewell is a lock to be let go after this season. He's done here. This game sealed it.
How many coordinators does TC have to let go  
micky : 11/24/2014 12:26 am : link
before he's not held accountable then?
RE: I don't think it was rational  
arcarsenal : 11/24/2014 12:26 am : link
In comment 11996358 chris r said:
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to not trust the DBs. You've got an 8 million dollar man in DRC, have some confidence in him vs Dez. Terrence Williams is alright but not someone you don't blitz on account of.

I think last night was a perfect example of why Perry's only good stretch against good competition was in 2011 when the pass rush stepped up.

I can't remember the last time a Giants' blitz consistently worked and overwhelmed/confused the opposition.

Maybe against Vick a few years ago when Rolle was blitzing him from the right side?


He did it against IND a few weeks ago. We were throwing all kinds of different looks at Luck and it was actually working fairly well in the first half.. but the offense was completely inept that night and couldn't do anything and eventually the floodgates opened up.

At least he tried to force Luck into getting the ball out quick. I'm not sure what the goal was tonight. Sitting back like that and rushing 4 against this Dallas OL is signing up to die a slow, painful death.

Since they had to get a TD, he was pretty clearly trying to get them to just make a mistake or run out of time or downs. Stupid and didn't work. I hated it.
Fewell's gone and Coughlin's gone  
jeff57 : 11/24/2014 12:27 am : link
They're going to have fewer wins than last season. There needs to be wholesale changes.
Did you doubt Dallas would March down the field?  
Feb.3,2008 : 11/24/2014 12:29 am : link
As the Giants approached the goal line to go up 24-20 I just hoped they would use up all of the clock. I had zero faith our D led by PF would stop them. He is a terrible DC. The guys that were out there were gassed. Instead of rotating in other guys and blitzing he does neither. Time for him to go. Save the crap about talent. Good DCs have done more with less.
hitdog and others  
bc4life : 11/24/2014 12:30 am : link
yeah that would be a good question to ask PF - you know you need pass rush, so, why no Ayers or Moore? Or even Ayers instead of Kuhn?
That was the worst "pass rush"  
Kyle in NY : 11/24/2014 12:31 am : link
I have ever seen. Hard to really put any blame on anybody in coverage there. He had nine seconds to throw! Unheard of. Now Fewell's blitzes are generally awful, but to not try anything else there is pretty hard to understand.

And Ayers had to be hurt. Although I wouldn't put it past this DC to just not have him out there.

Awful defense all around.
RE: hitdog and others  
jeff57 : 11/24/2014 12:34 am : link
In comment 11996427 bc4life said:
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yeah that would be a good question to ask PF - you know you need pass rush, so, why no Ayers or Moore? Or even Ayers instead of Kuhn?


It would be a good question to ask Coughlin, but the Giants beat reporters are the worst .
Talent  
stretch234 : 11/24/2014 12:37 am : link
I am sick of hearing that the DL is void of talent. The DC is void of talent. Switch DC this game and see different results. George Selvie - please.

There are 4 1st rd DL plus a 2nd and 3rd. It is a complete waste of talent. What do the defensive coaches practice

Dallas got Romo demolished because they could not block a blitz. Our DC once again plays passive and the results were inevitable
Arc  
SMitch2 : 11/24/2014 12:56 am : link
Have a beer on me. I agree with you that talent issues are there, but unfortunately the PF issues are also real. Just knew after the INT that the D would give up a quick TD. PF's been dealt a weak hand, but he is not getting the best out of it and is not making some obvious personnel moves that he could. What bothers me most is what is TC's culpability? I really like TC but these poor D coordinator hires (and Tom Quinn) are his decisions...
Fewell  
stretch234 : 11/24/2014 12:59 am : link
For a guy who plays as much passive D as you can because he is worried about giving up big plays , they give up more big plays than any other D in the league

They attack nothing and are on their heels all the time

If you are going to give up 30 PTS a game you may as well be aggressive
This defense is an embarassment  
Geomon : 11/24/2014 1:03 am : link
I don't know how Carl Banks can get on the radio every week and just not scream out of rage watching this shit.
I didnt read the whole post...  
damdevs : 11/24/2014 1:21 am : link
But Kuhn and Big Hank manned the middle for the whole drive.

Very disturbing if Fewell left Moore and Ayers on the sideline to watch.
the worst part is that it wasn't a surprise...as I told my wife  
SHO'NUFF : 11/24/2014 1:39 am : link
exactly what would happen...I'm just grateful to the defense for at least leaving our offense with a full minute to come back...very nice of them, really.
and i'd say Coughlin  
djm : 11/24/2014 10:54 am : link
is hanging by a thread. IF they don't show insane progress on offense for the rest of the season, mind you last night was a start, he's gone too.

But again, if they score 28 per the rest of the way, and let's say they finish 6-10 and knock off Philly just for shits...they MIGHT bring Coughlin back and demand a change at DC.

But I don't think they knock off Philly and avg 28 ppg the rest of the way. If they sort of ho hum their way to 3 wins, let's say knocking off Wash, Tenn and JAx, and don't really inspire too much confidence along the way? Coughlin's gone.

Fewell is gone no matter what in my view. Even if they played like the 85 bears these next 5 games it's too late. John MAra wanted that game last night. That loss will bother him and leave a mark.
I'm far from a defender,  
Section331 : 11/24/2014 11:15 am : link
but it's hard to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. His LB's suck. His safeties suck. His DE's suck. Look at opponents' passing figures in the middle of the field. Teams are completing over 70% of their passes, and it's because we have no players in the middle of the defense. Shitty LB's and shitty safeties.

Unless Fewell can suit up, I'm not sure what he can do. Bringing in a young Bill Belichick wouldn't change things.
this  
Les in TO : 11/24/2014 11:20 am : link
is a poorly coached/read and fail to react defensive team, aside from the talent issues. this falls on coughlin and fewell.
Section  
Matt M. : 11/24/2014 11:29 am : link
I think it is more that his scheme and gameplans suck. Regardless of his personnel, his defenses have been bottom third or worse of the league every year. He is a terrible coach.
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