thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
Not if he crosses at a 45 degree angle or so, rather than the 15 degree angle.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
Parker had clearly made his cut. Eli likely saw the LBs in the flat (you can see Carter starting to drop into coverage) and adjusted his throw high on purpose, but this idea that he missed Parker because "he didn't have time to adjust" to what was a wide open player in the middle of the field is nonsense.
Parker had clearly made his cut. Eli likely saw the LBs in the flat (you can see Carter starting to drop into coverage) and adjusted his throw high on purpose, but this idea that he missed Parker because "he didn't have time to adjust" to what was a wide open player in the middle of the field is nonsense.
And again.... He has a plit second to make his decision. If Parker is suppose to run up the field, you can see why he threw it high. But if he cut it flat (like both Coughlin and Eli suggested) thats why you got the high throw.
And AGAIN, the INT was probably Eli's fault. But trying to explain how being off by 1-2 yards to you people is like banging your head off the wall because you refuse to listen.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
You're right I don't know what is going on in Eli's head, but you argue like you do, so everyone else is wrong.
I played the position. Did you? My guess is no. Whats funny is that I am not even blaming Parker for this, but found it funny he ran his route short.
Again, if a certain route is called, the QB expects him to be there. Now what happened on the INT, I DONT KNOW...... but if a skinny post was called... I can understand why the throw was high. If it was a crossing route, then its a 1,000% on Eli. No questions asked.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
Not if he crosses at a 45 degree angle or so, rather than the 15 degree angle.
Then the ball is unlikely to placed at the middle of the field for the catch.
It went right over his head, if he's running at 45 degrees he's not got time to get to the middle of the field. The ball went over his head at pretty much the middle of the field just as he gets there. If it's for aimed another 3 yards or 4 yards up the field is Parker even going to be there when it arrives?
Those stats plus the fact that he has ONE legit receiver
I played the position. Did you? My guess is no. Whats funny is that I am not even blaming Parker for this, but found it funny he ran his route short.
Again, if a certain route is called, the QB expects him to be there. Now what happened on the INT, I DONT KNOW...... but if a skinny post was called... I can understand why the throw was high. If it was a crossing route, then its a 1,000% on Eli. No questions asked.
Hahahaha. Played the position. Hahahaha.
Hey guys, I played shooting guard. Let me critique MJ!! I'm qualified.
Parker had clearly made his cut. Eli likely saw the LBs in the flat (you can see Carter starting to drop into coverage) and adjusted his throw high on purpose, but this idea that he missed Parker because "he didn't have time to adjust" to what was a wide open player in the middle of the field is nonsense.
At that point a simple lob would have been a completion.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
Not if he crosses at a 45 degree angle or so, rather than the 15 degree angle.
Then the ball is unlikely to placed at the middle of the field for the catch.
It went right over his head, if he's running at 45 degrees he's not got time to get to the middle of the field. The ball went over his head at pretty much the middle of the field just as he gets there. If it's for aimed another 3 yards or 4 yards up the field is Parker even going to be there when it arrives?
I was trying to write that for 10 minutes - the angle is off for a deeper pattern.
Doesn't matter, sad that he played a really good game, but missed a wide open guy.
the Giants need a TE. Donnell is JAG. Someone like a Heath Miller - not Gronk but just a solid presence - has made the Steelers such a better team and has been a boon for Ben.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
Not if he crosses at a 45 degree angle or so, rather than the 15 degree angle.
Then the ball is unlikely to placed at the middle of the field for the catch.
It went right over his head, if he's running at 45 degrees he's not got time to get to the middle of the field. The ball went over his head at pretty much the middle of the field just as he gets there. If it's for aimed another 3 yards or 4 yards up the field is Parker even going to be there when it arrives?
I don't think it's meant to be that far up the field... Maybe another yard or so. In Eli's defense, he was pretty good all night. No real WTF throws, so maybe it was Parker's fault.
It's of no consequence though, because I think our shitass defense would have let up as many points as Dallas needed to win the game.
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I don't think it's meant to be that far up the field... Maybe another yard or so. In Eli's defense, he was pretty good all night. No real WTF throws, so maybe it was Parker's fault.
It's of no consequence though, because I think our shitass defense would have let up as many points as Dallas needed to win the game.
As high as that ball was, another yard or two is still over thrown.
Doesn't matter, 28-24 with 3:00 to go. Even with the missed pass, they should have won.
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I don't think it's meant to be that far up the field... Maybe another yard or so. In Eli's defense, he was pretty good all night. No real WTF throws, so maybe it was Parker's fault.
It's of no consequence though, because I think our shitass defense would have let up as many points as Dallas needed to win the game.
As high as that ball was, another yard or two is still over thrown.
Doesn't matter, 28-24 with 3:00 to go. Even with the missed pass, they should have won.
You are probably right, I dont see one absolving Eli of the INT. Theres a 999% chance it was Elis fault. I would have just been curious to see what would have happened if Parker did run the route he was suppose to. Maybe its still tipped for an INT. Maybe he completely overthrows him somehow.
what I'd like is in the last few years of Eli's career here
can we get him 3 WR's who he can play with and establish rapport with? His number 3 WR was building huts last year for God's sake.
That's why I'd give Washington some time as the number 3. Not only is he taller and might be more apt to catch a high throw, but he's also younger and might actually be a part of the future of this team.
Parker will never be on this team as a contributor when it is successful. It's time to find the guys who will be.
last night. For all the arguing on the pick, the Giants retook the lead. Mainly due to the play of Eli Manning and his leading of a 93 yard TD drive.
Seems wierd that this play garners so much attention. It was a shit throw that was high. Eli is the QB, he threw it, it is on him.
He also made countless other big boy throws, under pressure, to convert many third and longs. This was also true on the 93 yard drive. If the Giants had any D that would have been a game winning drive.
Seems like the wrong game to focus so much on his one mistake.
Alsl, Parker is not am NFL starter. I am sure he is giving his all but he would not get burn on a contender.
was the biggest one of the game. We knew the defense was suspect but it's another instance where he has been disappointing. We win that game if the pick doesn't happen that's the truth.
was the biggest one of the game. We knew the defense was suspect but it's another instance where he has been disappointing. We win that game if the pick doesn't happen that's the truth.
it is impossible to know if that is true. The Giants took the lead.
since the Kennedy assassination. Really guys, bad play and we lost. Probably on Eli, probably some on Parker too. We're keeping Eli. Let's find some guys who can play with him for next year.
Meanwhile the Beckham-Sistine Chapel photoshop is my new wallpaper.
was the biggest one of the game. We knew the defense was suspect but it's another instance where he has been disappointing. We win that game if the pick doesn't happen that's the truth.
Your kidding me right? The two defensive plays that involved a 4 man straight up rush that resulted in Romo having 8 fucking seconds to throw the ball on their go ahead TD don't count or something?
Holy shit he took the team right down the field for the go ahead score next series.
but he played a good game. I have no complaints about him. And did no one notice how Smith was holding JPP on one of those 2 7 second plays? Pulled him down by the jersey and had another handful of it was soon as he got up. I was shocked the guys in the booth didn't say anything when they played the isolation back.
Some dim bulbs look at where the player was and if the ball isn't there then it must be a bad throw.
No factoring in if the WR should have read it to be more open if he ran further North (where the EZ is BTW!) instead of so shallow. Not only is that where you can, you know, score a TD, but there weren't any defenders there.
And the throw may have been off a little too. Who knows? Who gives a flying rat's balls either?
Not sure it's been mentioned, but can we talk about how shitty of a jump that was by Parker, especially for an NFL wide receiver? What did he get, maybe 3 inches of leap?
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thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
Hey the stalker is back. Shocking his first post is directed at me.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
At what level did you play QB?
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thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
Not if he crosses at a 45 degree angle or so, rather than the 15 degree angle.
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Lmao.
Hey the stalker is back. Shocking his first post is directed at me.
You continue to amuse the masses around here. Sorry. But you're a joke. When you continue your tirade, I'll continue to comment.
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who never played the position.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
At what level did you play QB?
Patriot League.
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I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
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who never played the position.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
At what level did you play QB?
Lmao. He didn't. He was a waterboy
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Lmao.
Hey the stalker is back. Shocking his first post is directed at me.
You continue to amuse the masses around here. Sorry. But you're a joke. When you continue your tirade, I'll continue to comment.
You might be the first person to get a PFA on a football forum. You are very creepy dude.
And again.... He has a plit second to make his decision. If Parker is suppose to run up the field, you can see why he threw it high. But if he cut it flat (like both Coughlin and Eli suggested) thats why you got the high throw.
And AGAIN, the INT was probably Eli's fault. But trying to explain how being off by 1-2 yards to you people is like banging your head off the wall because you refuse to listen.
I am just trying to explain what may have happened. I even admit that it was still probably Eli's fault. But you two have NO CLUE whats going on through a QBs head. He has a split second to make a decision. If the play called for a skinny post for Parker to run, than its on Parker. Simple. I dont know what the play call was. I dont know what Eli thoguht he saw.
I am just trying to explain the situation from a QBs perspective.
You're right I don't know what is going on in Eli's head, but you argue like you do, so everyone else is wrong.
"its already planted by the time Parker gets opened"
"his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut"
is patently false. The video/photo evidence directly contradicts it.
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Again, if a certain route is called, the QB expects him to be there. Now what happened on the INT, I DONT KNOW...... but if a skinny post was called... I can understand why the throw was high. If it was a crossing route, then its a 1,000% on Eli. No questions asked.
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thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
Not if he crosses at a 45 degree angle or so, rather than the 15 degree angle.
Then the ball is unlikely to placed at the middle of the field for the catch.
It went right over his head, if he's running at 45 degrees he's not got time to get to the middle of the field. The ball went over his head at pretty much the middle of the field just as he gets there. If it's for aimed another 3 yards or 4 yards up the field is Parker even going to be there when it arrives?
Ridiculous that Eli is being blamed
"its already planted by the time Parker gets opened"
"his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut"
is patently false. The video/photo evidence directly contradicts it. Link - ( New Window )
I am going off the 12:33 picture.
Again, if a certain route is called, the QB expects him to be there. Now what happened on the INT, I DONT KNOW...... but if a skinny post was called... I can understand why the throw was high. If it was a crossing route, then its a 1,000% on Eli. No questions asked.
Hahahaha. Played the position. Hahahaha.
Hey guys, I played shooting guard. Let me critique MJ!! I'm qualified.
At that point a simple lob would have been a completion.
Do you do this to your 14 year old girlfriend? Its really creepy.
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thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
Not if he crosses at a 45 degree angle or so, rather than the 15 degree angle.
Then the ball is unlikely to placed at the middle of the field for the catch.
It went right over his head, if he's running at 45 degrees he's not got time to get to the middle of the field. The ball went over his head at pretty much the middle of the field just as he gets there. If it's for aimed another 3 yards or 4 yards up the field is Parker even going to be there when it arrives?
I was trying to write that for 10 minutes - the angle is off for a deeper pattern.
Doesn't matter, sad that he played a really good game, but missed a wide open guy.
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Haha. What an assclown.
Do you do this to your 14 year old girlfriend? Its really creepy.
The fact that I didn't even call you out but you assume this is about you should tell you that you need to reevaluate your life.
You should probably find a hobby and try to get your mind off this Eli obsession you have. It is becoming really fucking weird.
Pretty much. Lmao.
Yet another position that needs upgrading.
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thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
Not if he crosses at a 45 degree angle or so, rather than the 15 degree angle.
Then the ball is unlikely to placed at the middle of the field for the catch.
It went right over his head, if he's running at 45 degrees he's not got time to get to the middle of the field. The ball went over his head at pretty much the middle of the field just as he gets there. If it's for aimed another 3 yards or 4 yards up the field is Parker even going to be there when it arrives?
I don't think it's meant to be that far up the field... Maybe another yard or so. In Eli's defense, he was pretty good all night. No real WTF throws, so maybe it was Parker's fault.
It's of no consequence though, because I think our shitass defense would have let up as many points as Dallas needed to win the game.
What's gert?
I figured a YMCA QB like yourself is qualified enough to talk QB. LMAO. Hahahahahaha. What a joke.
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I don't think it's meant to be that far up the field... Maybe another yard or so. In Eli's defense, he was pretty good all night. No real WTF throws, so maybe it was Parker's fault.
It's of no consequence though, because I think our shitass defense would have let up as many points as Dallas needed to win the game.
As high as that ball was, another yard or two is still over thrown.
Doesn't matter, 28-24 with 3:00 to go. Even with the missed pass, they should have won.
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I don't think it's meant to be that far up the field... Maybe another yard or so. In Eli's defense, he was pretty good all night. No real WTF throws, so maybe it was Parker's fault.
It's of no consequence though, because I think our shitass defense would have let up as many points as Dallas needed to win the game.
As high as that ball was, another yard or two is still over thrown.
Doesn't matter, 28-24 with 3:00 to go. Even with the missed pass, they should have won.
You are probably right, I dont see one absolving Eli of the INT. Theres a 999% chance it was Elis fault. I would have just been curious to see what would have happened if Parker did run the route he was suppose to. Maybe its still tipped for an INT. Maybe he completely overthrows him somehow.
That's why I'd give Washington some time as the number 3. Not only is he taller and might be more apt to catch a high throw, but he's also younger and might actually be a part of the future of this team.
Parker will never be on this team as a contributor when it is successful. It's time to find the guys who will be.
Seems wierd that this play garners so much attention. It was a shit throw that was high. Eli is the QB, he threw it, it is on him.
He also made countless other big boy throws, under pressure, to convert many third and longs. This was also true on the 93 yard drive. If the Giants had any D that would have been a game winning drive.
Seems like the wrong game to focus so much on his one mistake.
Alsl, Parker is not am NFL starter. I am sure he is giving his all but he would not get burn on a contender.
it is impossible to know if that is true. The Giants took the lead.
Eli's throw would have been even worse.
Meanwhile the Beckham-Sistine Chapel photoshop is my new wallpaper.
Your kidding me right? The two defensive plays that involved a 4 man straight up rush that resulted in Romo having 8 fucking seconds to throw the ball on their go ahead TD don't count or something?
Holy shit he took the team right down the field for the go ahead score next series.
lmao
Why do the coaches insist on running that bum Parker out there time and time again?
Free He Double Trouble!!!
Some dim bulbs look at where the player was and if the ball isn't there then it must be a bad throw.
No factoring in if the WR should have read it to be more open if he ran further North (where the EZ is BTW!) instead of so shallow. Not only is that where you can, you know, score a TD, but there weren't any defenders there.
And the throw may have been off a little too. Who knows? Who gives a flying rat's balls either?