but Eli was also a good bit of the reason we had 21 points after three drives. Our skill position players outside of Beckham and Jennings suck. We don't have a reliable TE, we have a below average starting TE in Donnell who had one good game and has had a couple catches here and there. Our line sucks.
he's not a rookie. He doesn't get patted on the back anymore for putting up good numbers but making huge mistakes that lose the game. He's our 20 million dollar a year QB. Got to make those plays.
Eli played a very good game. It wasn't a great game because his pick was the result of a terrible throw on an easy TD. On top of that he missed an open Beckham and then threw too high on a wide open Donnell on the final drive. Two of those should have been gimmes and the one to Beckham very likely could have been a long TD.
He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
The D was putrid. But, if you don't place at least part of the blame on Eli then you watched a different game. The INT was a 14 point turnaround. His two other terrible throws were a potential TD and sure first down on the final drive.
but both could still have been caught and neither should have been tipped up, in Parker's case leading to the INT and in Donnell's case thankfully uneventfully.
who blame Eli for not seeing Beckham deep really show a true lack of football intelligence. Do you really think he wouldnt throw the ball if he saw him initially? Really?
The probnlem was he didnt see the defender fall, and then forced to his right, and by the time he saw Beckham a guy was charging at him so he couldnt step up.
lol even if Eli hits Parker on the numbers and scores
I get it. Eli played well enough for us to win. But with our defense, he can't afford to throw high passes for what looked like a potential TD or worst a FG. Dallas goes the other way and scores, at least a 10 point swing right there. I love Eli nd will defend him, but those mistakes have to stop. We handed Dallas the ball. Missing Beckham wide open sucks too but the pick was just not good.
The D was putrid. But, if you don't place at least part of the blame on Eli then you watched a different game. The INT was a 14 point turnaround. His two other terrible throws were a potential TD and sure first down on the final drive.
Please explain why its a 14 point turnaround? Because the defense let the mgo right dow the field and score? What if he did hit Parker for the score, and Dallas went right down and scored again.... would you still blame Eli?
a very weak OL is a major problem to start. The DL loses way too many one on one battles as well. When you build a football team you try to stabilize both lines and go from there. The Giants have problems, big problems on both. When you have problems on both lines it trickles down to all the other positions.
Dep is there to tell us how stats mean nothing. When eli does, it's all sbout the stats. Eli has a very poor 2nd hslf(mostly because Dallas yook OBJ away). Eli played a role in this loss.
He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
Doesn't even seem bothered in his presentation. He seems resigned to these losses. 5 in a row, and now they will beat 1 or 2 doormats to pretty up their record
Seems like once the pass rush starts to get in Eli's head
It's only about Eli with you. Yes, there are some stupid people who say loss was on Eli. You revel in it so you can do the only thing you ever do: defend Eli.
He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
It's only about Eli with you. Yes, there are some stupid people who say loss was on Eli. You revel in it so you can do the only thing you ever do: defend Eli.
I cheer on everyone. I just half a clue and blame the defense for yet another pitiful performance. And guess what? I even blamed Eli for the INT!!!!!! Can you believe it?!?!?!?
Jennings drops a ball right in his gut ...yeah it may have only been a gain of a few yards but then he can't get a yard ... The drop was the difference
He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
Throwing the go ahead TD with 3:00 to go and going 3 yards isnt a big moment? LOL, this place is downright hysterical.
But you know you're just taking to the complete opposite end of the spectrum.
It doesn't have to be one player or play that lost the game. And some players that had a hand in putting us in a position to win also had a hand in the loss. Christ, why does everything always have to be so black and white and over the top with you?
I think you're definitely a smart guy and you seem to know your stuff for the most part. But what is it with always taking it this far where you alienate everybody trying to have a rational discussion (which seems to be most of this thread and the fewell thread) in the process destroying any credibility your opinions may hold.
In comment 11996270 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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To Donnell was on him lol.... He was getting smacked as he threw from this piss poor OL...
No he got hit after he threw..... mind you he couldnt step up or even get his feet set because Jerry got beat in less than a second.... he HAS to make that throw. Or so I was told... haha
He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
So leading your team on a comeback drive is coming up small now? Alrighty then.
He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
So leading your team on a comeback drive is coming up small now? Alrighty then.
This is on them and the lousy special teams coverage and punt teams
And missing a wide-open Beckham deep.
Doesn't mean the "it's all Eli fault" is a fair, reasonable response either?
Of course, he'll take the fucking blame because that's what he does. But I'm so sick of this defense and their passive ass shit.
At least, fucking blitz everyone... Maybe they fuck up and fumble..
To sit back like that is very un Giants-like.
And missing a wide-open Beckham deep.
There were plays there... Bad throw all Eli the miss on Beckham was pressure from left, that was just before Snyder was pulled.
Our OL sucks.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
The probnlem was he didnt see the defender fall, and then forced to his right, and by the time he saw Beckham a guy was charging at him so he couldnt step up.
Please explain why its a 14 point turnaround? Because the defense let the mgo right dow the field and score? What if he did hit Parker for the score, and Dallas went right down and scored again.... would you still blame Eli?
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
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He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
I cheer on everyone. I just half a clue and blame the defense for yet another pitiful performance. And guess what? I even blamed Eli for the INT!!!!!! Can you believe it?!?!?!?
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He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
Throwing the go ahead TD with 3:00 to go and going 3 yards isnt a big moment? LOL, this place is downright hysterical.
It doesn't have to be one player or play that lost the game. And some players that had a hand in putting us in a position to win also had a hand in the loss. Christ, why does everything always have to be so black and white and over the top with you?
I think you're definitely a smart guy and you seem to know your stuff for the most part. But what is it with always taking it this far where you alienate everybody trying to have a rational discussion (which seems to be most of this thread and the fewell thread) in the process destroying any credibility your opinions may hold.
No he got hit after he threw..... mind you he couldnt step up or even get his feet set because Jerry got beat in less than a second.... he HAS to make that throw. Or so I was told... haha
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In comment 11996182 Kyle in NY said:
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He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
So leading your team on a comeback drive is coming up small now? Alrighty then.
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In comment 11996182 Kyle in NY said:
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He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
So leading your team on a comeback drive is coming up small now? Alrighty then.
I said some. Not all.