Would you rather a game where Eli is 15 of 35 for 150 yards 1TD and 1 INT and the Giants win, or where Eli is 27 of 35 for 375, 4TDs, no picks and the Giants lose? I would guess that latter.
It seems some on this board only watch the games to figure out who to blame or defend based on the outcome. Some don't even seem to care about the result of the games.
Eli generally played well tonight - certainly well enough to win, but that pick on the goal line was critical and it was a piss poor throw when he had time and a clearing passing lane. Everyone except Beckham chipped in on this loss.
He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
Throwing the go ahead TD with 3:00 to go and going 3 yards isnt a big moment? LOL, this place is downright hysterical.
Keep saying, "He missed Odell." But why did he miss him ?? Pressure maybe ? He knew the pressure was coming(which it was), so he had to quickly go through his progression. If he had time, the pass would've been made
But you know you're just taking to the complete opposite end of the spectrum.
It doesn't have to be one player or play that lost the game. And some players that had a hand in putting us in a position to win also had a hand in the loss. Christ, why does everything always have to be so black and white and over the top with you?
I think you're definitely a smart guy and you seem to know your stuff for the most part. But what is it with always taking it this far where you alienate everybody trying to have a rational discussion (which seems to be most of this thread and the fewell thread) in the process destroying any credibility your opinions may hold.
Believe me, I would love to have a rational discussion about Eli here. But the other side of the spectrum fixates on 2 out of 40 throws he makes.
Guess what Peyton missed Sanders about 6 times for wide open TDs today. There isnt a QB in the league who doesnt go through a game without a few bad throws. Romo had a disgusting one tonight. But Rolle dropped it and led to a FG. Eli had 1, it was tipped for an INT.
Would you rather a game where Eli is 15 of 35 for 150 yards 1TD and 1 INT and the Giants win, or where Eli is 27 of 35 for 375, 4TDs, no picks and the Giants lose? I would guess that latter.
It seems some on this board only watch the games to figure out who to blame or defend based on the outcome. Some don't even seem to care about the result of the games.
Eli generally played well tonight - certainly well enough to win, but that pick on the goal line was critical and it was a piss poor throw when he had time and a clearing passing lane. Everyone except Beckham chipped in on this loss.
Thats just a fucking moronic question. Get out of here with that shit.
He had a good game, he led a crucial TD drive in crunch time from deep in our territory. He also missed the HR ball to Beckham (when 13 is singled up and having that type of game there's really no excuse to never look that way) and the throw to Parker that should have been an easy TD.. mistakes happen. There was definitely a momentum swing when the Parker pass got picked.. we needed points there even if it was just the FG to take a 7 pt lead.
You can say that Eli had a really solid game but made a couple of mistakes. It's actually.. rational!
between missing a WR and not seeing one. He didnt miss Beckham with a throw, he just didnt see it. It would be wonderful if he saw him, but he didnt. And to blast him for it.... well it makes no sense.
Sad thing is we're three players from being a damn good offense next
And this is why. Romo has 7 seconds to pass and we're killing the QB. Not one thread about JPP. Not one thread about our d system or performance. Yeah Eli sailed a pass with a guy on his back as he's done for 10 years. You didn't mind it in the past but now that the rest of the team isn't as good people bail. Unreal.
you're putting us all on, right? Someone said it in another thread: you're like Eli Manning's press secretary.
Another shit effort by the Giants with essentially 1 bright spot (Beckham) and your immediate reaction post-game is to make a thread saying "Not Eli's fault, guys. SEE? Not Eli's fault".
you're putting us all on, right? Someone said it in another thread: you're like Eli Manning's press secretary.
Another shit effort by the Giants with essentially 1 bright spot (Beckham) and your immediate reaction post-game is to make a thread saying "Not Eli's fault, guys. SEE? Not Eli's fault".
It's getting weird. Obsession level.
May want to check the thread Eric started. He flat out said Parker ran a flatter route than he expected. I accept your apology.
you're putting us all on, right? Someone said it in another thread: you're like Eli Manning's press secretary.
Another shit effort by the Giants with essentially 1 bright spot (Beckham) and your immediate reaction post-game is to make a thread saying "Not Eli's fault, guys. SEE? Not Eli's fault".
It's getting weird. Obsession level.
May want to check the thread Eric started. He flat out said Parker ran a flatter route than he expected. I accept your apology.
Cool. Eli saw him. He should have adjusted to where he was actually going, not where he hoped he was going.
But you know you're just taking to the complete opposite end of the spectrum.
It doesn't have to be one player or play that lost the game. And some players that had a hand in putting us in a position to win also had a hand in the loss. Christ, why does everything always have to be so black and white and over the top with you?
I think you're definitely a smart guy and you seem to know your stuff for the most part. But what is it with always taking it this far where you alienate everybody trying to have a rational discussion (which seems to be most of this thread and the fewell thread) in the process destroying any credibility your opinions may hold.
Believe me, I would love to have a rational discussion about Eli here. But the other side of the spectrum fixates on 2 out of 40 throws he makes.
Guess what Peyton missed Sanders about 6 times for wide open TDs today. There isnt a QB in the league who doesnt go through a game without a few bad throws. Romo had a disgusting one tonight. But Rolle dropped it and led to a FG. Eli had 1, it was tipped for an INT.
Well for starters, get off the game thread. Nobody is rational in that and I can't imagine it being any fun for you because you are literally in arguments the entire game on there. I think most of the responses on here have been pretty reasonable. He played well, he had one or two bad mistakes and a team around him that isn't good enough to help overcome them. Again, it's not black and white.
(I have it DVR'd, will try to get a gif up). Eli was in the pocket and had not released the ball while Parker was wide open. You're telling he couldn't have adjusted based on Parker's (supposedly wrong) route?
(I have it DVR'd, will try to get a gif up). Eli was in the pocket and had not released the ball while Parker was wide open. You're telling he couldn't have adjusted based on Parker's (supposedly wrong) route?
I watched the replay as well. He could have easily assumed Parker was going to run the route he was suppose to throw and threw it where he thought his WR was suppose to be. But that would make too much sense.
Parker cut his route flat when he was suppose to go deeper with it.
This has been confirmed by the Giants brass. Guess its still his fault.
Parker had already cut by the time the throw was made, Eli had a clear unobstructed lane and view, and the throw was well within the numbers. It's always something isn't it.
Parker cut his route flat when he was suppose to go deeper with it.
This has been confirmed by the Giants brass. Guess its still his fault.
Stop it - Eli was looking right at him. He wasn't throwing to a spot, he was looking right at him... I don't give a fuck if he was a yard or two shallow - he was wide fucking open and the QB was looking right at him.
from Manning himself: "I just threw it high...no excuses, got a guy running open, I gotta hit him."
This wasn't a comeback route where timing is critical. Parker was absolutely wide open in the middle of the field. Manning fucked up. It's okay to say it. Yes, the O-line sucked again. The defense sucked again. But in this instance, Manning fucked up and it contributed to the loss.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
And if Parker continues up the field he's running into the Safety
I've already told him to simmer for his/the board's own good, but the possible issue with Parker was that he ran the route flatter than expected. Meaning, to put it more simply, he should have kept moving back more, more on a diagonal than as straight across.
At the point of the picture, if that's supposed to be Eli's last view before release, Parker could do either.
RE: And if Parker continues up the field he's running into the Safety
No he isnt. He has a good 7-10 yards of freedom before the safety gets involved. Believe what you want...
But I am saying its POSSIBLE for Eli to think he would be deeper. Look at his left foot... its already planted by the time Parker gets opened, which shows that he IS throwing to a spot.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
when fans are attempting to break down film or stills. Do we really even know what we are looking at?
I played the position for 10 years.... I am just trying to give a perspective of what I see. Most of these posters think its really as easy as playing Madden.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
I've already told him to simmer for his/the board's own good, but the possible issue with Parker was that he ran the route flatter than expected. Meaning, to put it more simply, he should have kept moving back more, more on a diagonal than as straight across.
At the point of the picture, if that's supposed to be Eli's last view before release, Parker could do either.
He ran diagonally, how much more diagonally he is mean to run he cut in at 13 yard line and the ball went over his head when he was at the 8. It's just a shit throw.
RE: RE: Uh, that picture doesn't contradict what dep is claiming.
I've already told him to simmer for his/the board's own good, but the possible issue with Parker was that he ran the route flatter than expected. Meaning, to put it more simply, he should have kept moving back more, more on a diagonal than as straight across.
At the point of the picture, if that's supposed to be Eli's last view before release, Parker could do either.
He ran diagonally, how much more diagonally he is mean to run he cut in at 13 yard line and the ball went over his head when he was at the 8. It's just a shit throw.
Because he obviously altered his route when the ball was thrown. They said he ran a flat route. So are Eli and Coughlin lying. He ran a cross where Eli may have expected a skinny post. There is a huge, huge differnce.
RE: RE: Sad thing is we're three players from being a damn good offense next
Three players... 2 interior linemen and 1 other WR that takes the pressure off Beckham and Cruz.
But 8 players away from a respectable defense.
Probably more like 5. Secondary will be fine with a healthy DRC, Prince, Bowman, and McBride. Hopefully, Rolle comes back at a reduced price. A key is Cooper Taylor and another safety (Berhe?) kicking Demps off the roster. Hankins is fine at one DT. We'll probably move on from Jenkins and give Bromley more time next year.
Kennard's fine at one LB. But the rest is dreck. Beason would help, but can he stay healthy? So figure, at least 2 or 3 LB's and 2 linemen.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Parker has already made his cut. He is two steps into his crossing pattern. He is wide open and Eli is looking right at him. Even if Eli expects him deeper, the angle to that spot would be different (more behind Parker)and not where it passed over his head.
thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.
It seems some on this board only watch the games to figure out who to blame or defend based on the outcome. Some don't even seem to care about the result of the games.
Eli generally played well tonight - certainly well enough to win, but that pick on the goal line was critical and it was a piss poor throw when he had time and a clearing passing lane. Everyone except Beckham chipped in on this loss.
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He played well, he had a few mistakes but on the whole was very sharp. A good game. But you cannot be taken seriously at this point. Maybe you're a few drinks deep by this time in the night but I think you're losing your mind.
You don't have much credibility at this point.
And people who blame Eli for the loss do have credibility? Interesting.
72.5% with 340 yards. Wherez Nazzib?
Didn't you bash QB numbers endlessly in the past because they didn't show Eli in a favorable light. Instead it was all about his clutchness in big moments. Now when he's got good numbers but came up small in some big moments, you're all about the gaudy numbers.
Disappointing but not surprising.
Throwing the go ahead TD with 3:00 to go and going 3 yards isnt a big moment? LOL, this place is downright hysterical.
Again, I said some, not all.
It doesn't have to be one player or play that lost the game. And some players that had a hand in putting us in a position to win also had a hand in the loss. Christ, why does everything always have to be so black and white and over the top with you?
I think you're definitely a smart guy and you seem to know your stuff for the most part. But what is it with always taking it this far where you alienate everybody trying to have a rational discussion (which seems to be most of this thread and the fewell thread) in the process destroying any credibility your opinions may hold.
Believe me, I would love to have a rational discussion about Eli here. But the other side of the spectrum fixates on 2 out of 40 throws he makes.
Guess what Peyton missed Sanders about 6 times for wide open TDs today. There isnt a QB in the league who doesnt go through a game without a few bad throws. Romo had a disgusting one tonight. But Rolle dropped it and led to a FG. Eli had 1, it was tipped for an INT.
It seems some on this board only watch the games to figure out who to blame or defend based on the outcome. Some don't even seem to care about the result of the games.
Eli generally played well tonight - certainly well enough to win, but that pick on the goal line was critical and it was a piss poor throw when he had time and a clearing passing lane. Everyone except Beckham chipped in on this loss.
Thats just a fucking moronic question. Get out of here with that shit.
You can say that Eli had a really solid game but made a couple of mistakes. It's actually.. rational!
But I guess that sort of thing is frowned upon.
Three players... 2 interior linemen and 1 other WR that takes the pressure off Beckham and Cruz.
This has been confirmed by the Giants brass. Guess its still his fault.
Three players... 2 interior linemen and 1 other WR that takes the pressure off Beckham and Cruz.
But 8 players away from a respectable defense.
Defense let Dez run wide open for a td ... Let a scrub like Beasley score a long td virtually untouched
Poor throw by Eli ... Poor punts and coverage ..
OBJ is one of the only ones who doesn't get any blame .
Someone posted it in the post game thread.
Another shit effort by the Giants with essentially 1 bright spot (Beckham) and your immediate reaction post-game is to make a thread saying "Not Eli's fault, guys. SEE? Not Eli's fault".
It's getting weird. Obsession level.
Another shit effort by the Giants with essentially 1 bright spot (Beckham) and your immediate reaction post-game is to make a thread saying "Not Eli's fault, guys. SEE? Not Eli's fault".
It's getting weird. Obsession level.
May want to check the thread Eric started. He flat out said Parker ran a flatter route than he expected. I accept your apology.
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you're putting us all on, right? Someone said it in another thread: you're like Eli Manning's press secretary.
Another shit effort by the Giants with essentially 1 bright spot (Beckham) and your immediate reaction post-game is to make a thread saying "Not Eli's fault, guys. SEE? Not Eli's fault".
It's getting weird. Obsession level.
May want to check the thread Eric started. He flat out said Parker ran a flatter route than he expected. I accept your apology.
Cool. Eli saw him. He should have adjusted to where he was actually going, not where he hoped he was going.
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But you know you're just taking to the complete opposite end of the spectrum.
It doesn't have to be one player or play that lost the game. And some players that had a hand in putting us in a position to win also had a hand in the loss. Christ, why does everything always have to be so black and white and over the top with you?
I think you're definitely a smart guy and you seem to know your stuff for the most part. But what is it with always taking it this far where you alienate everybody trying to have a rational discussion (which seems to be most of this thread and the fewell thread) in the process destroying any credibility your opinions may hold.
Believe me, I would love to have a rational discussion about Eli here. But the other side of the spectrum fixates on 2 out of 40 throws he makes.
Guess what Peyton missed Sanders about 6 times for wide open TDs today. There isnt a QB in the league who doesnt go through a game without a few bad throws. Romo had a disgusting one tonight. But Rolle dropped it and led to a FG. Eli had 1, it was tipped for an INT.
Well for starters, get off the game thread. Nobody is rational in that and I can't imagine it being any fun for you because you are literally in arguments the entire game on there. I think most of the responses on here have been pretty reasonable. He played well, he had one or two bad mistakes and a team around him that isn't good enough to help overcome them. Again, it's not black and white.
This has been confirmed by the Giants brass. Guess its still his fault.
Yup. This loss is on the Defense. Flacid dick Fewell fucks us again.
I watched the replay as well. He could have easily assumed Parker was going to run the route he was suppose to throw and threw it where he thought his WR was suppose to be. But that would make too much sense.
You should probably find a hobby and try to get your mind off this Eli obsession you have. It is becoming really fucking weird.
You should probably find a hobby and try to get your mind off this Eli obsession you have. It is becoming really fucking weird.
Got anymore asinine or moronic questions you want to ask?
This has been confirmed by the Giants brass. Guess its still his fault.
Parker had already cut by the time the throw was made, Eli had a clear unobstructed lane and view, and the throw was well within the numbers. It's always something isn't it.
This has been confirmed by the Giants brass. Guess its still his fault.
Stop it - Eli was looking right at him. He wasn't throwing to a spot, he was looking right at him... I don't give a fuck if he was a yard or two shallow - he was wide fucking open and the QB was looking right at him.
This wasn't a comeback route where timing is critical. Parker was absolutely wide open in the middle of the field. Manning fucked up. It's okay to say it. Yes, the O-line sucked again. The defense sucked again. But in this instance, Manning fucked up and it contributed to the loss.
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
At the point of the picture, if that's supposed to be Eli's last view before release, Parker could do either.
No he isnt. He has a good 7-10 yards of freedom before the safety gets involved. Believe what you want...
But I am saying its POSSIBLE for Eli to think he would be deeper. Look at his left foot... its already planted by the time Parker gets opened, which shows that he IS throwing to a spot.
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
I played the position for 10 years.... I am just trying to give a perspective of what I see. Most of these posters think its really as easy as playing Madden.
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thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
At the point of the picture, if that's supposed to be Eli's last view before release, Parker could do either.
He ran diagonally, how much more diagonally he is mean to run he cut in at 13 yard line and the ball went over his head when he was at the 8. It's just a shit throw.
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I've already told him to simmer for his/the board's own good, but the possible issue with Parker was that he ran the route flatter than expected. Meaning, to put it more simply, he should have kept moving back more, more on a diagonal than as straight across.
At the point of the picture, if that's supposed to be Eli's last view before release, Parker could do either.
He ran diagonally, how much more diagonally he is mean to run he cut in at 13 yard line and the ball went over his head when he was at the 8. It's just a shit throw.
Because he obviously altered his route when the ball was thrown. They said he ran a flat route. So are Eli and Coughlin lying. He ran a cross where Eli may have expected a skinny post. There is a huge, huge differnce.
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Three players... 2 interior linemen and 1 other WR that takes the pressure off Beckham and Cruz.
But 8 players away from a respectable defense.
Probably more like 5. Secondary will be fine with a healthy DRC, Prince, Bowman, and McBride. Hopefully, Rolle comes back at a reduced price. A key is Cooper Taylor and another safety (Berhe?) kicking Demps off the roster. Hankins is fine at one DT. We'll probably move on from Jenkins and give Bromley more time next year.
Kennard's fine at one LB. But the rest is dreck. Beason would help, but can he stay healthy? So figure, at least 2 or 3 LB's and 2 linemen.
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thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Parker has already made his cut. He is two steps into his crossing pattern. He is wide open and Eli is looking right at him. Even if Eli expects him deeper, the angle to that spot would be different (more behind Parker)and not where it passed over his head.
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thanks for the picture. Now I am going to try and explain something to people who never played the position....
You see Eli in his thrwoing motion? Its literally IMPOSSIBLE to adjust how you are throwing the ball once you start the throw. Sure you can hold it bakc, or possibly pump, but guess what happens then? The INT you saw last week.
When Eli decided to start his throw, Parker had just cut or was about too..... so he is throwing it to a spot, so if Parker flattens it out, thats a reason why the throw was high. You are talking MILISECONDS to make the decision where you are throwing.
The picture actually shows that if Parker did run it flat, that its very realistic that Eli was expecting him to be deeper which caused a higher ball.
Thanks for the picture.
You can not be that dense. Parker has already made his cut, Eli sees him, he was NOT throwing to a spot. He over threw the pass. Why would Eli throw the ball to the two safeties in the endzone - see those two guys in white.
Because his foot is planted and his arm is in the throwing motion when Parker makes his cut. If he sees the open field and expects Parker to be deeper thats how he is going to throw it.
Seriously. Look at his left foot and his throwing motion. It had already STARTED before Parker broke. Seriously. I am not making this shit up. Now it could have been a bad throw, but IF IF IF IF Parker ran flatter than Eli expected, thats why it was higher than it was suppose to be. If Parker is just 1-2 yards deeper, its probably a TD.
Actually no. Parker has started his cut at the 13 yard line before Eli cocks the ball. the ball goes sailing over his head at the 8 yard line. That's a hell of a lot of depth he'd need to put on the cross to get to the middle of the field at say the 5.