The defense has consistently come up small all year and last year also. They were not going to stop Dallas. What Dallas did on the last drive is what we used to do when we had a solid OL.
I saw the quotes all together on Twitter and he's basically saying Parker wasn't where he was supposed to be, but that he (Eli) still should have hit him. If someone isn't where they're supposed to be, you can't hit them on target, because there is no target.
He's falling on his sword... but not really?
RE: this wasn't a timing throw where Eli was looking elsewhere and
I saw the quotes all together on Twitter and he's basically saying Parker wasn't where he was supposed to be, but that he (Eli) still should have hit him. If someone isn't where they're supposed to be, you can't hit them on target, because there is no target.
He was looking right. There was a replay. Collingworth said he looked left first, the CB hasn't fallen down yet, so he progressed through his reads. He got back to Beckham but had pressure on that side. He clearly motioned to make the throw, but bailed because he didn't think he could get enough on the throw without stepping up.
He has such an inability to get beat his man one on one that he got away with a nice push off on a third down and long conversion in the second half and the defender was still right with him.
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had to trust his WR to be at a spot at a certain time.
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
haha.
You've got nothing and haven't all night.
You blamed him for missing a throw to a guy he never saw. You are out of your league talking sports.
He never saw him? How do you know that? He was looking at him. If he didn't see him he shouldn't have throw it. Again, this wasn't some kind of timing hitch route. It was slant over the middle of the field. You don't throw the ball over the middle of the field without seeing your target.
had to trust his WR to be at a spot at a certain time.
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
haha.
You've got nothing and haven't all night.
You blamed him for missing a throw to a guy he never saw. You are out of your league talking sports.
He never saw him? How do you know that? He was looking at him. If he didn't see him he shouldn't have throw it. Again, this wasn't some kind of timing hitch route. It was slant over the middle of the field. You don't throw the ball over the middle of the field without seeing your target.
Your right Eli saw OBJ WIDE OPEN and just decided not to throw him the ball. Holy shit, lay off the drugs man.
....angle, if Eli had gotten it down, it would have hit #95 right in the hands or head. It just cleared him. Obviously better than an INT but it would have been a batted ball vs a TD.
would have assumed Parker would maybe head for the enormous hole in the coverage that would have put him in the end zone? Instead of continuing to run east-west?
Some of you are pretty clearly showing you don't understand
Manning's comments are weird and I had just put the INT on him and that was that, but if that picture is supposed to be the last thing he saw before throwing, then Parker flattening out his route unexpectedly easily could have caused the ball to come in higher than it "should" have.
Eli;s foot is already plated, his arm is already in the thrwoing motion.... He is throwing it to a spot and just cant stop his throwing motion if the WR runs his pattern to short.
You know what happened the last time Eli try to alter his throwing motion..... it was last week on his 2nd INT, where the ball came out funny.
RE: Looking at that pic, isint' it reasonable to think that Eli
would have assumed Parker would maybe head for the enormous hole in the coverage that would have put him in the end zone? Instead of continuing to run east-west?
People dont understand that a QB just cant stop his throwing motion and move his footwork to adjust to a WR who isnt running the pattern he expects.
OMG..you have to be kidding me if you think this cost us the game
Fuck me, we have a Defense that failed to make a key stop ALL FUCKING GAME LONG...but its Eli's fault he threw one damn interception after having a 29-40, 338 yds, 3 TD, 1 int night (with ONE decent receiver} in which he was running for his life the whole second half and no running game to really speak of.
What the fuck more do you want out of this guy? How about ONE STOP by the defense in a crucial moment? how about a blitz so dickbag Romo does not get 8 secs to throw the ball?
Eli;s foot is already plated, his arm is already in the thrwoing motion.... He is throwing it to a spot and just cant stop his throwing motion if the WR runs his pattern to short.
You know what happened the last time Eli try to alter his throwing motion..... it was last week on his 2nd INT, where the ball came out funny.
The throw was still high as shit. Parker wouldn't have been able to catch it anyway. It was a terrible inaccurate throw. Its on Eli. No one else
he was pretty solid all game. Of course the defense holds primary responsibility. But this thread is about the INT, so we're discussing it. Should have been an easy TD.
Eli on pick: I just threw it high...no excuses, got a guy running open, I gotta hit him.
Interesting....
Is this source good enough for you? Or is Eric his press secretary?
Maybe we can get a Carsen palmer type guy.
Almost every tipped ball from Eli is picked its unreal.
Eli was money on that 93 yard drive to take the lead though and under big time duress too.
Compare the pockets Romo and Eli had on each final possession. Night and day.
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
Eli made some great throws tonight but that INT was 100% his fault.
He's falling on his sword... but not really?
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
haha.
Eli never hit the toilet bowl
-Cooper Manning
I read it that way, too.
He's falling on his sword... but not really?
Its callled being the anti-Robert Griffin.
"Probably" should have made? Probably? Stop posting on Eli threads dep you are just embarrassing yourself.
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had to trust his WR to be at a spot at a certain time.
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
haha.
You've got nothing and haven't all night.
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
Tell us more, Coach Lombardi.
Either way it was a real bad play. Thing is the Giants retook the lead on a fantastic 93 yard drive where Eli made some great throws under duress.
Then, the D shit the bed. It was so easy for them to come down and score.
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as he always does. Its a throw he probably should have made, but I wonder where Parker was suppose to be and if it would have made a difference.
"Probably" should have made? Probably? Stop posting on Eli threads dep you are just embarrassing yourself.
haha. Trust me there are a lot of emabrassing posters on here tonight. Welcome to the club.
He was looking right. There was a replay. Collingworth said he looked left first, the CB hasn't fallen down yet, so he progressed through his reads. He got back to Beckham but had pressure on that side. He clearly motioned to make the throw, but bailed because he didn't think he could get enough on the throw without stepping up.
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had to trust his WR to be at a spot at a certain time.
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
haha.
You've got nothing and haven't all night.
You blamed him for missing a throw to a guy he never saw. You are out of your league talking sports.
if parker was 2 yards closer to the end zone - 2 yards less flat the ball would not have been too high.
whatever. i am eli supporter, but i could admit when he plays bad. he played well tonight.
Toomer felt that as a WR if the ball hits your hands you have to catch it.
could have been a better throw.
could have been a better route.
we had A 4 PT lead with 3 mins left.
He has to have the all time lead. If I am not mistaken his only pick in the great '07 run was off Smith's hands in the Super Bowl as well.
Guy has VERY bad luck with that. For most QB's that pass to Parker is tipped and hits the ground. Unreal.
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had to trust his WR to be at a spot at a certain time.
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
haha.
You've got nothing and haven't all night.
You blamed him for missing a throw to a guy he never saw. You are out of your league talking sports.
He never saw him? How do you know that? He was looking at him. If he didn't see him he shouldn't have throw it. Again, this wasn't some kind of timing hitch route. It was slant over the middle of the field. You don't throw the ball over the middle of the field without seeing your target.
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had to trust his WR to be at a spot at a certain time.
He saw him before he threw, had a chance to adjust to where Parker was actually going, and threw it high.
haha.
You've got nothing and haven't all night.
You blamed him for missing a throw to a guy he never saw. You are out of your league talking sports.
He never saw him? How do you know that? He was looking at him. If he didn't see him he shouldn't have throw it. Again, this wasn't some kind of timing hitch route. It was slant over the middle of the field. You don't throw the ball over the middle of the field without seeing your target.
Your right Eli saw OBJ WIDE OPEN and just decided not to throw him the ball. Holy shit, lay off the drugs man.
Who gives a shit about where he should of been, He was wide open in the middle of the field. Just throw it to him. That was a throw a HS QB could make
The cut was already made before Eli threw, and he's looking right at it.
The play is right in front of Eli. Just make an accurate throw.
That kinda renders this play moot.
Manning's comments are weird and I had just put the INT on him and that was that, but if that picture is supposed to be the last thing he saw before throwing, then Parker flattening out his route unexpectedly easily could have caused the ball to come in higher than it "should" have.
Eli;s foot is already plated, his arm is already in the thrwoing motion.... He is throwing it to a spot and just cant stop his throwing motion if the WR runs his pattern to short.
You know what happened the last time Eli try to alter his throwing motion..... it was last week on his 2nd INT, where the ball came out funny.
People dont understand that a QB just cant stop his throwing motion and move his footwork to adjust to a WR who isnt running the pattern he expects.
What the fuck more do you want out of this guy? How about ONE STOP by the defense in a crucial moment? how about a blitz so dickbag Romo does not get 8 secs to throw the ball?
Holy shit this is absurd
Eli;s foot is already plated, his arm is already in the thrwoing motion.... He is throwing it to a spot and just cant stop his throwing motion if the WR runs his pattern to short.
You know what happened the last time Eli try to alter his throwing motion..... it was last week on his 2nd INT, where the ball came out funny.
The throw was still high as shit. Parker wouldn't have been able to catch it anyway. It was a terrible inaccurate throw. Its on Eli. No one else