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It's time to stop blaming the coaches

moaltch : 11/24/2014 10:24 am
for theses performances. These teams ARE BETTER than us. No playmakers an defense (sorry JPP) No offensive line. What can the coaches do? Blitz more? We still dont get home. So Romo will find an open receiver in 2 seconds instead of 7. We start linebackers that would be backups at best on any other teams. Our two starters that were out are backups elsewhere. Come on. You want Eli to see Beckum alone down the sidelines? Give him another second of protection. You want balance on offense? Give me an offensive lineman or 2 that can win his matchup consistently.

You want to change coaches for the sake of change, I'm not against that. Just please stop blaming them when the personnel is just not good.
You mean like John Mara did last year?  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/24/2014 10:26 am : link
The only change possible to happen this year is another sacrificial lamb, Fewell. Yeah Fewell is terrible but he isn't the cause of our terrible roster.
Agreed with a caveat...  
MikeN in Ottawa : 11/24/2014 10:28 am : link
other teams are doing more with less and that is coaching. Fewell's defenses, even with more talent, with the exception of late 2011 and playoffs, have been horrible. He is not a good DC and this is one area where Tom deserves to be criticized. He has not done a good job with DCs with the exception of Spags.

Plus his loyalty to Quinn is certainly not based on production.

Do we need more talent...no question but it is not always talent that wins. Coaches have more impact on the outcome of football games than in any other sport.
While much of what you say makes sense  
montanagiant : 11/24/2014 10:28 am : link
This talent level is bad, but i also don't see this staff elevating the talent at all. I don't see schemes called that puts this sad talent into any kind of a successful position or works around some of our weaknesses.

I see calls made on Defense that make you scratch your head at a times. There seems to be a lack of any kind of adjusting and creativity on Defense
this was never going to  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 11/24/2014 10:31 am : link
be a 1 year turn around, we had a ton of turnover this season plus a rash of injuries....

Let see what happens this year, we have a good amt of cap room and will have a high draft pick.

Question is, do the Giants trust Reese with this cap space?
Agree stop blaming the coaches  
micky : 11/24/2014 10:32 am : link
this is a player issue here.
Agree the issues revolve around a poor roster  
JonC : 11/24/2014 10:33 am : link
but it's time for Fewell to depart.
RE: Agreed with a caveat...  
Johnny5 : 11/24/2014 10:34 am : link
In comment 11997388 MikeN in Ottawa said:
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other teams are doing more with less and that is coaching. Fewell's defenses, even with more talent, with the exception of late 2011 and playoffs, have been horrible. He is not a good DC and this is one area where Tom deserves to be criticized. He has not done a good job with DCs with the exception of Spags.

Plus his loyalty to Quinn is certainly not based on production.

Do we need more talent...no question but it is not always talent that wins. Coaches have more impact on the outcome of football games than in any other sport.

Agree with this.
Disagree  
Marty866b : 11/24/2014 10:36 am : link
This is an organizational issue. The lack of talent comes from the top. It is the coaches job to get the team in the best position to win.Why Ayers and Moore didn't play on the last series is on the coaches INABILITY to give the team the best chance to win.
I agree with you to some  
compton : 11/24/2014 10:37 am : link
extent. The team has very little talent on defense but scheme could help in some spots. For example, on the Cowboys last touchdown everyone knew they were going to pass why didn't the Giants blitz to force Romo to make that throw in two seconds instead of the seven he had. Also, why not play Washington there. Yes, it's mostly talent but coaching could be better.
why are we putting the wrong guys on the field  
aquidneck : 11/24/2014 10:41 am : link
Charles Brown the first OL off the bench after a mid season injury?

Kiwi over both Ayers and Moore in the final 3 minutes when a pass rush is needed?

Mosley in the witness protection program or something.

Not so pissed about Hosley. He's only playing because 3 CBs have been lost for the year.
Coaches and players  
cokeduplt : 11/24/2014 10:41 am : link
Both get the blame I know this isn't the most talented team but 3-8 come on. They need a change and it starts from the too neigh is enough
there is tangible  
area junc : 11/24/2014 10:48 am : link
evidence of poor coaching, week after week.

This week, how about snapping the ball with 10 seconds left on the playclock when you are punting to DAL at the end of half? we're stupid
oh and of course  
area junc : 11/24/2014 10:50 am : link
(again) not using whats worked against our opponent. The DAL OL weakness is vs. the blitz and Romo can't withstand shots. DRC is on the field to cover dez. isn't that why you signed him?
RE: Agreed with a caveat...  
Section331 : 11/24/2014 10:51 am : link
In comment 11997388 MikeN in Ottawa said:
Quote:
other teams are doing more with less and that is coaching. Fewell's defenses, even with more talent, with the exception of late 2011 and playoffs, have been horrible. He is not a good DC and this is one area where Tom deserves to be criticized. He has not done a good job with DCs with the exception of Spags.


Agree 100%. TC's loyalty to underperforming coordinators is baffling for a guy who preaches accountability.
I think TC  
old man : 11/24/2014 11:11 am : link
has done a great job, in general, with the garbage he has been given, and the steady stream of injuries.
That said, Fewell, Quinn, and possibly other coaches have to go.
If he is told to fire and is reluctant, then it is either done for him or he can opt to leave.
The bigger problem is, we could again dump 30 players(who would notice or care) he (or someone else) would now have to coach up from the beginning and we'd be in this same spot next year.
We have poor talent  
Big Blue Fan 74 : 11/24/2014 11:22 am : link
That is the GM's fault.
RE: Agree stop blaming the coaches  
dguy901 : 11/24/2014 3:07 pm : link
In comment 11997410 micky said:
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this is a player issue here.

And when you "f-up" at work, you blame those that work for you. That is, rather than acknowledging your failure to thoroughly train, motivate and manage them to do the job right! Sorry, comes across like a buck-passing-putz.
Why does the blame  
Gregorio : 11/24/2014 3:35 pm : link
have to go only to the players or only to the coaches? To me, outside of the players there are issues at all levels of the organization. There is also a talent deficit. Blame can fairly go to a mix of players and coaches, and team management.

The issue with the coaches is this; there have been consistent poor results year after year in certain areas, defense, specials, despite a pretty good amount of player turnover. That points directly to the coaches and not the players.

So, it is entirely fair to find blame with both.
yet another BBI black or white post  
chris r : 11/24/2014 3:38 pm : link
try grey bro.
Plenty of blame to go around  
jcn56 : 11/24/2014 3:39 pm : link
The FO isn't immune, but neither are the coaches.

Several defensive lapses - not having Ayers and Moore on the field more, being reluctant to blitz after the offsides.

Offensive mishaps too, like not attacking Scandrick's replacement (or Scandrick when he returned) and going more conservative to open up the 2nd half when the offense was clicking in the first half.

This just isn't a well run org at the moment, from top to bottom.
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