says they are not talented on defense but you can at least be in the right position. He was talking about gap control or gap integrity.
He says that, on a regular basis, the Giants defensive players were on the wrong side of blocks which allowed Murray to read the blocks and know there was a natural seam so it was like an easy 5 yards before he would get contact.
Deducing from that, this seems like a real indictment of PF because Banks says this has been going on all year. He indicated that, at the very least, you can teach your players even if they are not very talented, to be in the right position so that gaps are maintained etc.
Now, are the players being taught this or are they ignoring that teaching and doing what they want. In either case, this reflects on the coaching because, as far as my logic goes, they are not being taught this or they are not carrying out the coaches' wishes which would seem to be even worse.
As for the offensive line, nothing new...they are just not very good right now. They are what they are.
^^ This. Haslett is a hell of a coach compared to Fewel and the Skins defense is beat up too.
Summed up perfectly.
Marinelli is a much better DC than Fewell. Look at George Selvie who didn't even make it to our training camp two years ago. Either it is coaching or talent evaluation...has to be one of those two.
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I don't see it that way. I think the OL has just been physically overmatched more than anything.
But, I don't think the talent is that deficient on the DL, for example. It is not the most talented DL in the league, but it also isn't least talented. But, they sure play like it every week.
They lost Orakpo again yet still found a way to pressure Romo. Perry Awful just sticks with a four man front.
Because we have no idea how much, or even if, TC "handcuffs" McAdoo. It is one of those memes that gets a life of its own on BBI, repeated by those who couldn't wait for KG to go, but can't bring it upon themselves to place any blame on the guy who replaced him.
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physically being outmatched is one thing, but not even being in the right place is a coaching issue and a mental fuckup by all involved
I don't see it that way. I think the OL has just been physically overmatched more than anything.
In support of this I watched a segment on NFL Gameday yesterday with Shaun O'Hara that gave a couple of examples of the O Line being pushed around. On the 4th and inches attempt late in the game against the 49'ers, 3 of the 5 linemen were on the floor before the hand-off.
Knowing how things were when he played, and watching the last 2 years, MUST be tearing his heart out.
the coaches fucking suck. it doesn't matter if you have the most talented player if you can't coach them where to be and you can help disguise shit players by making sure they are in the best positions on the field and/or know where to go
so effin annoying
Herzlich had a shot at Murray on a sweep to the left. Herzlich shot the gap and was in time to get Murray 5 yards down field. Faster player gets Murray at the LOS.
Fucking Cole Beasley ran rings around Hosley. You'd think a small player like Hosley would at least be quick. Beasley made him look like he was standing still.
#17 on Dallas, a big, receiver was faster than our db's playing specials.
It's a fast game, and we have a very slow team.
Herzlich had a shot at Murray on a sweep to the left. Herzlich shot the gap and was in time to get Murray 5 yards down field. Faster player gets Murray at the LOS.
Fucking Cole Beasley ran rings around Hosley. You'd think a small player like Hosley would at least be quick. Beasley made him look like he was standing still.
#17 on Dallas, a big, receiver was faster than our db's playing specials.
It's a fast game, and we have a very slow team.
exactly!
Unlike the Seahawks who have a serious program that focuses on this AND they are able to work on it without pads too.
I've been pretty clear here on BBI that I don't care for Banks as a radio guy. In addition to always defending the coaches he never says anything interesting or insightful during the broadcast. But even Carl the "company man" can't continue to deny the fact that the Giants defense isn't well coached. But he sure hung in there with the "its the players fault" mantra until the bitter end.
It's a fast game, and we have a very slow team.
I have to disagree with this one. Not that we cannot use more speed, but even speed does not fix stupid. Other than a guy like Rolle and DRC, our guys are not true football players who understand the game. If you are football smart, then you can see the plays developing before they actually develop AND you put yourself into the right position even if you are not the fastest at your position. I can name countless guys who were some of the best ever at their positions but were not close to being the fastest.
Your mind is faster than your legs. As a DB, you need to understand the situation, tendencies, read the body language of the WR and the QB. Then, you have a really good idea as to which way the WR is going to break. Your anticipation will get you to the spot even if the WR is faster than you are.
The other thing is this..
we do not truly jam the WRs on the line. Too many free releases and we let the WR go wherever he wants. You have 5 yards to steer the guy in the direction where YOU want him to go and to disrupt the timing of the route. We simply do not do that. You do not need speed to do this. In fact, if you lack speed you BETTER do this. Coaching once again..
I believe the redskins are top 10 in defense in rush yards pass yards and total yards. They just give up a lot of points. Actually a pretty good defense
Add Snyder to that group.
I completely agree with Banks as it pertains to people knowing the assignment defensively. It's one thing to not be able to physically handle an opponent. That happens... no one can really handle Dez Bryant. But it's another thing to have defenders looking at each other and pointing like "Who had that guy?"