Was anyone listening to Mike and Mike this morning? They had on Cris Carter, on his regular weekly spot. After performing verbal fellatio on Carter in introducing him, Mike Greenberg asked Carter if Beckham's catch was the best he'd ever seen. Carter said, "I don't know if I can say it was the best I've seen. But most difficult?..." And I don't recall him really finishing that thought beyond the implication that it may have been the most difficult he'd seen.
He then proceeded to break down all the components of the catch -- vision, body control, etc. And "some luck." He apologized before throwing that in, but he threw it in just the same. There was some luck involved in Beckham's catch.
Then Greenberg said, "When you compare it to David Tyree's helmet catch -- same quarterback, same team...but obviously different circumstances--"
And then Carter interrupted with, "Well, that was all luck."
Greenberg responded, "All luck??? No skill involved at all???"
Carter said nothing.
Mike Golic said, "Well, I never would have been able to make that catch!"
And Carter said, "Well, that's not saying much now, is it."
Anyone else hear that segment?
Whatever it takes.
essentially downplayed the Odell catch and pissed on the helmet catch.
yes ofcourse there is luck, but if you don't think there wasn't any skill or desire to out muscle and maintain control of that ball you are a fucking idiotic hater punk.
"CC" is a joke
And all of you non NFL WRs, who have most definitely never won a SB, are my source for this definitive truth?
Bless.
You're on a roll.
And all of you non NFL WRs, who have most definitely never won a SB, are my source for this definitive truth?
Bless.
This boils down to: fuck Cris Carter. Always hated him, continue to do so now.
He said Tyree's helmet catch was all luck, not Beckham's catch last night.
Honestly, when you consider all the factors for both catches, I'm not sure which was more impressive. OBJ definitely for athleticism, but given that the Super Bowl was on the line, and an All-Pro DB was climbing up Tyree's back, I think that's worth a lot. And does the fact that OBJ practices these types of catches count for him or against him?
lək/
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noun: luck
1. success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions.
Unsurprisingly, Cris Carter is too stupid to know the actual meaning of the term "luck". Had the ball been deflected to Tyree, or something else happened with the ball that was out of his control but was fortuitous in his making the catch, then the catch could be deemed lucky.
There were no deflections, no strokes of fortune. Tyree highpointed the ball, was hit, trapped it against his helmet, and gripped the ball firmly in his hands as he was violently bent backwards. There is nothing resembling luck there.
It appears Cris Carter is as good at understanding the concept of luck as he is being part of championship teams, analyzing football on ESPN, or raising a child to be something other than an enormous moron.
Fuck Cris Carter.
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lək/
noun
noun: luck
1. success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions.
Unsurprisingly, Cris Carter is too stupid to know the actual meaning of the term "luck". Had the ball been deflected to Tyree, or something else happened with the ball that was out of his control but was fortuitous in his making the catch, then the catch could be deemed lucky.
There were no deflections, no strokes of fortune. Tyree highpointed the ball, was hit, trapped it against his helmet, and gripped the ball firmly in his hands as he was violently bent backwards. There is nothing resembling luck there.
It appears Cris Carter is as good at understanding the concept of luck as he is being part of championship teams, analyzing football on ESPN, or raising a child to be something other than an enormous moron.
Fuck Cris Carter.
couldn't have said it any better.
Again, there is no luck involved with Tyree's catch. I guess if you want to say he was lucky that Eli broke those tackles, that's one thing. But the catch itself? Nothing about it was lucky.
Beckham's was pure skill. While being fouled, leaping up and backwards, reaching over his head to catch the ball with one hand (three fingers mind you) without a juggle, bring it cleanly in front of him and secure it before hitting the ground. There was no luck involved, unless not being knocked out of bounds prior to the catch is luck.
The OBJ catch was straight skill. There are several videos of him snatching one handed catches so he does that on a regular, just not quite like last nights grab.
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This boils down to: fuck Cris Carter. Always hated him, continue to do so now.
Well, at least with you I always know it's about hayte.
Did he say that before shitting all over the best play in NFL history? Luck my ass. Gamblers get lucky. Players play.
Except that's not what he said.
You can count the replies if you want.
And of course there was an element of luck to Tyree's catch. There's also an element of broadcaster's making definitive, absolute statements to what Carter said. Because that's how they most of often get people to react. As this thread illustrates.
He was also on Buddy Ryan's Eagles....how long ago was that?
How many better players and plays have been made in the NFL since he retired?
Chris Carter just sounds like a bitter old guy now. Just let your bitterness go Chris.
ODB's catch was all skill. You play how you practice.