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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2014 3:04 pm
Art Stapleton & #8207;@art_stapleton 8m8 minutes ago

Tom Coughlin on why not more Ayers on final drive: "Those things have been discussed long and hard in the meeting rooms today."
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wtf  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2014 3:04 pm : link
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 10m10 minutes ago

TC says encroachment penalty was on a pressure. Suggests it scared the Giants away from future blitzes.
ask Coughlin  
spike : 11/24/2014 3:05 pm : link
why Fewell still has a job? Maybe he should be demoted.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2014 3:05 pm : link
Paul Schwartz ‏@NYPost_Schwartz 9m9 minutes ago Manhattan, NY

Coughlin said there were reasons why Robert Ayers was not on the field on last defensive series. "You love to be able to do it over.''
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2014 3:05 pm : link
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 10m10 minutes ago

Coughlin indicates late encroachment penalty was supposed to be a pressure, seems to say it scared team a bit on blitzing again.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2014 3:06 pm : link
Paul Schwartz ‏@NYPost_Schwartz 9m9 minutes ago Manhattan, NY

Eli's lone interception: "Those plays are magnified,'' Coughlin says of team that has no margin for error.
sort of cryptic  
Sneakers O'toole : 11/24/2014 3:06 pm : link
they were discussed today, that could mean a lot of things.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2014 3:06 pm : link
Paul Schwartz ‏@NYPost_Schwartz 8m8 minutes ago Manhattan, NY

Coughlin is often asked about pairing Beckham with Victor Cruz. "I'm more of a realist. He's not out there.''
unreal  
Kyle in NY : 11/24/2014 3:06 pm : link
Was it really that hard a decision to make in the moment? How about after the first time Romo had nine seconds to throw?

Sometimes it can be difficult to find the line between players not executing and coaches not doing their jobs and putting them in the best position to do so. However, this right here is a pretty blatant coaching mistake.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2014 3:07 pm : link
Kimberly Jones ‏@KimJonesSports 6m6 minutes ago

Tom Coughlin: "Sound thinking" went into Robert Ayers not being on field on last DAL drive. Added: "You love to be able to do it over."
that speaks volumes  
Andy in Boston : 11/24/2014 3:08 pm : link
and I'm a huge TC supporter, but one of my knocks on him and his teams through the years, when they struggle; they play scared. Scared to make mistakes instead of unleash the hounds mentality. They play too cautious and not aggressive enough sometimes....and it always seems to bite them in the ass.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2014 3:09 pm : link
Paul Schwartz ‏@NYPost_Schwartz 53s54 seconds ago Manhattan, NY

Kiwanuka: "If you have a four-man rush you should be able to get there.''
scared them from a pressure?  
Andy in Boston : 11/24/2014 3:09 pm : link
for real?
If you're going to lose....go all out balls to the wall.
You're 3-7 for Christ's sake.
RE: that speaks volumes  
jcn56 : 11/24/2014 3:09 pm : link
In comment 11998527 Andy in Boston said:
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and I'm a huge TC supporter, but one of my knocks on him and his teams through the years, when they struggle; they play scared. Scared to make mistakes instead of unleash the hounds mentality. They play too cautious and not aggressive enough sometimes....and it always seems to bite them in the ass.


Agreed - if one penalty results in you being scared to blitz, then you've seriously compromised your ability to win.
the encroachment  
Les in TO : 11/24/2014 3:09 pm : link
comment is yet another example of how this team is just so frustratingly conservative - i realize our secondary is decimated and there are risks to allowing dez/witten and other receivers to have 1 on 1 coverage against backups. but i'd rather go down aggressively than the death by 1,000 cuts (or in the case last night, the "10 steamboats" that romo had) version. for those calling for fewell's head but not coughlin's you need to have your own head checked.
^^^  
dcgiantsfan : 11/24/2014 3:10 pm : link
It's comments like this that make me want the TC era to end! It's just unexplainable how players that should be out there for one reason or another are sitting on the sidelines, while the MK's of the world do nothing on it smh.
RE: that speaks volumes  
Les in TO : 11/24/2014 3:10 pm : link
In comment 11998527 Andy in Boston said:
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and I'm a huge TC supporter, but one of my knocks on him and his teams through the years, when they struggle; they play scared. Scared to make mistakes instead of unleash the hounds mentality. They play too cautious and not aggressive enough sometimes....and it always seems to bite them in the ass.


yup - as i said during my no huddle thread, they had the cowboys on the ropes but then backed off and played it conservatively on offense.
RE: RE: that speaks volumes  
Andy in Boston : 11/24/2014 3:11 pm : link
In comment 11998533 jcn56 said:
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In comment 11998527 Andy in Boston said:


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and I'm a huge TC supporter, but one of my knocks on him and his teams through the years, when they struggle; they play scared. Scared to make mistakes instead of unleash the hounds mentality. They play too cautious and not aggressive enough sometimes....and it always seems to bite them in the ass.



Agreed - if one penalty results in you being scared to blitz, then you've seriously compromised your ability to win.


for real....if you're scared not to blitz because of a penalty.....you have no sack.
That's the F'ing answer???????  
Giants2012 : 11/24/2014 3:15 pm : link
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3:04 pm
Art Stapleton & #8207;@art_stapleton 8m8 minutes ago

>>>>Tom Coughlin on why not more Ayers on final drive: "Those things have been discussed long and hard in the meeting rooms today."<<<<


WTF is wrong with this staff?
For all those that wanted to keep Feweel aboard the last  
Geeman : 11/24/2014 3:15 pm : link
couple of years, we deserve this.
He should've been gone with all the ongoing miscommunications with this defense.
Now we get we didn't blitz because we were scared!!!
I just can't believe this. Romo is getting 6-8 seconds in the pocket and we are not bringin anybody.
Skins defense was just as bad and a key reason they won.
What did he really have to lose with a 3-7 record???
Coaching scared got him exactly what was deserved...a LOSS.
RE: wtf  
kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:18 pm : link
In comment 11998506 Eric from BBI said:
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Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 10m10 minutes ago

TC says encroachment penalty was on a pressure. Suggests it scared the Giants away from future blitzes.


Ridiculous. Now we coach scared
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arcarsenal : 11/24/2014 3:18 pm : link
Not bringing pressure again because of an encroachment penalty is some bizarre reasoning. I don't understand that at all.
when we got up 21-10  
Paulie Walnuts : 11/24/2014 3:19 pm : link
you could see the Giants go into a shell

RE: That's the F'ing answer???????  
kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:20 pm : link
In comment 11998554 Giants2012 said:
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3:04 pm
Art Stapleton & #8207;@art_stapleton 8m8 minutes ago

>>>>Tom Coughlin on why not more Ayers on final drive: "Those things have been discussed long and hard in the meeting rooms today."<<<<


WTF is wrong with this staff?


Coughlin is consistently 1 year too late to make adjustments. He is going to ride Kiwi until his wheels fall off. Just like Diehl, snee, Webster, dodge, herzlich, gilbride, etc.
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kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:20 pm : link
In comment 11998573 arcarsenal said:
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Not bringing pressure again because of an encroachment penalty is some bizarre reasoning. I don't understand that at all.


He's lying.
wow. not much to say here. sounds like complete dysfunction.  
Victor in CT : 11/24/2014 3:20 pm : link
Either TC isn't getting the message across to PF, or PF isn't listening. Or both.

The times they are a changin'.
RE: when we got up 21-10  
kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:20 pm : link
In comment 11998576 Paulie Walnuts said:
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you could see the Giants go into a shell


Run
Run
Pass
RE: For all those that wanted to keep Feweel aboard the last  
Les in TO : 11/24/2014 3:21 pm : link
In comment 11998556 Geeman said:
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couple of years, we deserve this.
He should've been gone with all the ongoing miscommunications with this defense.
Now we get we didn't blitz because we were scared!!!
I just can't believe this. Romo is getting 6-8 seconds in the pocket and we are not bringin anybody.
Skins defense was just as bad and a key reason they won.
What did he really have to lose with a 3-7 record???
Coaching scared got him exactly what was deserved...a LOSS.
Coughlin is every bit as accountable for the defense's performance as PF.
coughlin  
cokeduplt : 11/24/2014 3:21 pm : link
Can't be the couch next rebuilding with a 70 year old is asinine ugh.
what possible  
Mighty : 11/24/2014 3:21 pm : link
"sound thinking" could there be in leaving the sack leader of the team on the bench in a critical end of game drive where the other team is pretty much going to pass constantly?
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Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/24/2014 3:24 pm : link
In comment 11998530 Eric from BBI said:
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Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 53s54 seconds ago Manhattan, NY

Kiwanuka: "If you have a four-man rush you should be able to get there.''


Then why haven't you been getting there for the last three years? Keep getting that check, Kiwi.
RE: what possible  
kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:24 pm : link
In comment 11998590 Mighty said:
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"sound thinking" could there be in leaving the sack leader of the team on the bench in a critical end of game drive where the other team is pretty much going to pass constantly?


Coughlin's loyalty to kiwi.
Where's Lebron?  
jcn56 : 11/24/2014 3:24 pm : link
This is the fragile team he's looking for - and it starts and the top and goes all the way throughout the organization. We stopped blitzing because a guy went offsides? So much of what these guys do sometimes is starting to make sense.
Guys, he won two Super Bowls.  
Exit 172 : 11/24/2014 3:25 pm : link
Leave him alone.

#Job4Life
I knew we were screwed when they came out after the half  
Blue21 : 11/24/2014 3:26 pm : link
and it was run-run-pass. Not even a play action. We didn't attack we just ran three plays three and out. Believe the second series was the same. Pathetic.
tom coughlin needs a motivational speaker with Ayers on the bench  
mattlawson : 11/24/2014 3:26 pm : link
RE: Guys, he won two Super Bowls.  
kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:26 pm : link
In comment 11998602 Exit 172 said:
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Leave him alone.

#Job4Life


Lengths at which people will shield coughlin on BBI is shameful. These people hold him above the team.
damnit  
mattlawson : 11/24/2014 3:27 pm : link
RE: scared them from a pressure?  
Section331 : 11/24/2014 3:32 pm : link
In comment 11998531 Andy in Boston said:
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for real?
If you're going to lose....go all out balls to the wall.
You're 3-7 for Christ's sake.


I was thinking the same thing. Not blitzing because of one encroachment penalty? Would you stop all motion because of one illegal motion penalty?
I think people reading into too much here  
micky : 11/24/2014 3:33 pm : link
And not the full context. Its easy to jump to conclusions and blaming coaching here.
RE: RE: scared them from a pressure?  
kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:35 pm : link
In comment 11998640 Section331 said:
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In comment 11998531 Andy in Boston said:


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for real?
If you're going to lose....go all out balls to the wall.
You're 3-7 for Christ's sake.



I was thinking the same thing. Not blitzing because of one encroachment penalty? Would you stop all motion because of one illegal motion penalty?


If we think coughlin isn't senile the only explanation is that he's lying.

Either he commanded fewell not to blitz or fewell chose not to and coughlin is covering him.

The telling question and answer will be to fewell: do you decide whether or not kiwi gets snaps?
How the hell do you square  
Bill in UT : 11/24/2014 3:35 pm : link
"sound reasoning went into it" with "you'd love to be able to do it over"? If your reasoning was sound, you'd do it the same way next time.
Translation of 'discussed'  
old man : 11/24/2014 3:36 pm : link
"Perry: What in the name of God's green earth (substitute 'the
xxx' of your choice' after What) were you thinking by not using Moore and Ayers, especially the last possession!!?"
RE: How the hell do you square  
kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:37 pm : link
In comment 11998650 Bill in UT said:
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"sound reasoning went into it" with "you'd love to be able to do it over"? If your reasoning was sound, you'd do it the same way next time.


Results oriented thinking is very normal in the NFL
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arcarsenal : 11/24/2014 3:37 pm : link
I want to know who is making the personnel decisions. It would clear up quite a bit.
RE: Translation of 'discussed'  
kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:38 pm : link
In comment 11998653 old man said:
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"Perry: What in the name of God's green earth (substitute 'the
xxx' of your choice' after What) were you thinking by not using Moore and Ayers, especially the last possession!!?"


IIRC fewell during the bye week said it was an organizational decision. Re: not his.
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kepler20 : 11/24/2014 3:38 pm : link
In comment 11998657 arcarsenal said:
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I want to know who is making the personnel decisions. It would clear up quite a bit.


Dig up the fewell interview during the bye week.

He was plainly asked about ayers snaps.
There are reasons to knock Coughlin  
Go Terps : 11/24/2014 3:41 pm : link
Last night's game isn't one of them. The gameplan (running more plays and controlling time of possession against a team built on doing those things) was superb.

Coughlin doesn't deserve a job for life. But if you're looking to get rid of him ask yourself why. Is it because you don't think he can coach anymore, or because you want to punish him (i.e. hold him accountable) for these poor two years?

If it's the former reason, fair enough. If it's the latter, I don't think that's a good way to proceed forward.
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arcarsenal : 11/24/2014 3:41 pm : link
If Coughlin is overruling Fewell and keeping Ayers off the field there, something is very wrong. I'd need to see some concrete proof of that, though.. I find it hard to believe.
there is no mystery here  
nyynyg : 11/24/2014 3:41 pm : link
what has to happen, two super bowls in our past have nothing to do with anything. i don't know why so many here don't see it. sure blame can be placed on JR too but what needs to happen is obvious and it is a year too late already.
He talks like he has no control of  
Rflairr : 11/24/2014 3:42 pm : link
anything during the game?

Open your mouth and adjust during games. Who wants to hear this shit after the game is over.
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