Fewell may suck as a DC, but he's got very little talent in the front seven, and absolutely no depth there. So while he's the easy fall guy in this scenario, I think it's worth noting that we haven't drafted a truly competent LB since the 1996 draft and Pepper Johnson.
You look at our LB picks over the past 18 years, and NO ONE stands out as starting caliber. And our DL has absolutely no depth to it, has lost several top quality starters to FA while they were in their youth (Cofield, Griffin, Joseph) and is now relatively bereft of talent aside from Hankins and a diminished JPP.
And that's not even addressing the many misses we've had in attempting to fortify our dreadful OL with midround picks up until the last few years.
So to me it's a two-headed problem. If we can't address our drafting, no matter who coaches the team we're not in good shape. Whether Reese should go is hard for me to know, but it sure seems that the scouting department should be doing a better job of talent procurement than it has for some time now.
We haven't done that poorly with FA signings, and generally, the players we have let walk haven't amounted to too much.
However, our scouting and drafting is terrible. I don't know enough about Marc Ross's role to say definitely if it's him, but it could very well be.
Adios to Reese, Ross, Coughlin and the coaching staff. The nuclear option, if Mara is convinced that none of these guys is working out any more. I really don't think this happens.
2. Fire the coaching staff.
Dismissal of Coughlin and his entire staff. Don't think this one happens either, but I can see the justification with every passing week. Here, you retain the FO, not because they've done an admirable job and are above dismissal but because you want to give Reese the opportunity to hire one coach during his tenure, but with the caveat that if things don't turn around quickly there will be more heads rolling.
3. Short term changes/fixes
Here, changes to the FO and coaching staff, with scouts possibly reassigned/dismissed, maybe Ross getting a pink slip, Fewell getting the axe, and a short term extension for Coughlin so he's not a lame duck.
IMO, this one's the most likely to happen. I've defended Fewell on BBI for quite some time, but I think if they do keep Coughlin they'll need a scapegoat, and Fewell will do. He's not better than mediocre, so we'd be hard pressed not to do the same or better with someone else, but injuries and a completely ineffective offense have made it impossible to do that job.
I don't disagree, but find it funny you apply this to only the defense. The offense isn't exactly bereft of talent either, and it has seriously underperformed as well.
I don't know why it is funny. I stated that our front office needs to do a better job. However, Fewell has shown his ineptitude time and time again. McAdoo has shown a lot more in his limited time.
I don't know why it is funny. I stated that our front office needs to do a better job. However, Fewell has shown his ineptitude time and time again. McAdoo has shown a lot more in his limited time.
I wish I could see the great signs you do. I see an extremely inept offense, the weaker of the two units on the team (not saying much).
Not an indictment of McAdoo since they aren't exactly mega talented, but barring a couple of games against absolutely lousy teams I haven't seen the promise you're referring to, outside of an improvement to Eli's stats.
Last night - down 3, they came out with a minute left and 3 timeouts, at home, against a shitty defense, and couldn't muster a single first down. Not even 10 yards. Nothing promising about that.
but Armstead came after him. Nonetheless, it is striking that an organization famed for its LBers is reduced to this. Imagine how LT, Harry and Reasons feel when they see the likes of Herzlich.
BVP is probably looking down in disgust.
I don't know why it is funny. I stated that our front office needs to do a better job. However, Fewell has shown his ineptitude time and time again. McAdoo has shown a lot more in his limited time.
I wish I could see the great signs you do. I see an extremely inept offense, the weaker of the two units on the team (not saying much).
Not an indictment of McAdoo since they aren't exactly mega talented, but barring a couple of games against absolutely lousy teams I haven't seen the promise you're referring to, outside of an improvement to Eli's stats.
Last night - down 3, they came out with a minute left and 3 timeouts, at home, against a shitty defense, and couldn't muster a single first down. Not even 10 yards. Nothing promising about that.
but Armstead came after him. Nonetheless, it is striking that an organization famed for its LBers is reduced to this. Imagine how LT, Harry and Reasons feel when they see the likes of Herzlich running around aimlessly on the field.
BVP is probably looking down in disgust.
I don't know why it is funny. I stated that our front office needs to do a better job. However, Fewell has shown his ineptitude time and time again. McAdoo has shown a lot more in his limited time.
I wish I could see the great signs you do. I see an extremely inept offense, the weaker of the two units on the team (not saying much).
Not an indictment of McAdoo since they aren't exactly mega talented, but barring a couple of games against absolutely lousy teams I haven't seen the promise you're referring to, outside of an improvement to Eli's stats.
Last night - down 3, they came out with a minute left and 3 timeouts, at home, against a shitty defense, and couldn't muster a single first down. Not even 10 yards. Nothing promising about that.
I don't know why it is funny. I stated that our front office needs to do a better job. However, Fewell has shown his ineptitude time and time again. McAdoo has shown a lot more in his limited time.
I wish I could see the great signs you do. I see an extremely inept offense, the weaker of the two units on the team (not saying much).
Not an indictment of McAdoo since they aren't exactly mega talented, but barring a couple of games against absolutely lousy teams I haven't seen the promise you're referring to, outside of an improvement to Eli's stats.
Last night - down 3, they came out with a minute left and 3 timeouts, at home, against a shitty defense, and couldn't muster a single first down. Not even 10 yards. Nothing promising about that.
So, a lot of injuries this year on Defense and the Defense is terrible. So what!! Injuries didn't prevent Sheridan and Gilbride from being let go. Fewell should likewise be let go, to be fair.
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There are a lot of names being listed as who should be the designated "fall guy" except for the coach.
Picking out one guy here or there and just assigning them blame is passing the buck.
Last year it was the OC.
This year it will likely be the DC.
If the special teams suck in 2015, it will be the STC.
So we are going to play this game each year all while the coach who hired these men and reviews and approves all plans (because he is the CEO of the team on Sunday's) is somehow on an island all by himself while this is happening and therefor is to be absolved when it comes to blame.
What business runs like that? That sure is a job to have isn't it? You get all the credit for the success and whenever there is failure, you get to pin the blame on everyone else.
But, yeah, it's been way too long to draft and develop a quality LB (although I do like Kennard). One of my main criticisms of Reese is his neglect of middle of the field defenders - LB's and safeties. We give up way too many easy yards between the numbers.
There are a lot of names being listed as who should be the designated "fall guy" except for the coach.
Picking out one guy here or there and just assigning them blame is passing the buck.
Last year it was the OC.
This year it will likely be the DC.
If the special teams suck in 2015, it will be the STC.
So we are going to play this game each year all while the coach who hired these men and reviews and approves all plans (because he is the CEO of the team on Sunday's) is somehow on an island all by himself while this is happening and therefor is to be absolved when it comes to blame.
What business runs like that? That sure is a job to have isn't it? You get all the credit for the success and whenever there is failure, you get to pin the blame on everyone else.
I think people have an emotional connection to Coughlin because of 2007 and 2011 and are emotionally biased in that respect; they equate past performance with future performance. I love the guy and have all the respect in the world for him, but if you look at the totality of his teams from 2004-2014, even factoring in injuries and the talent he was given, it paints a less appealing picture.
And as much as Reese decides which talent comes in the door (and deserves blame for some of his misses especially guys like austin, sintim, barden etc), the composition of talent on the roster is up to Coughlin. He decides who is worthy of making the roster and who doesn't. He has cut some guys who have gone on to have really good productive careers elsewhere.
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There are a lot of names being listed as who should be the designated "fall guy" except for the coach.
Picking out one guy here or there and just assigning them blame is passing the buck.
Last year it was the OC.
This year it will likely be the DC.
If the special teams suck in 2015, it will be the STC.
So we are going to play this game each year all while the coach who hired these men and reviews and approves all plans (because he is the CEO of the team on Sunday's) is somehow on an island all by himself while this is happening and therefor is to be absolved when it comes to blame.
What business runs like that? That sure is a job to have isn't it? You get all the credit for the success and whenever there is failure, you get to pin the blame on everyone else.
I think people have an emotional connection to Coughlin because of 2007 and 2011 and are emotionally biased in that respect; they equate past performance with future performance. I love the guy and have all the respect in the world for him, but if you look at the totality of his teams from 2004-2014, even factoring in injuries and the talent he was given, it paints a less appealing picture.
And as much as Reese decides which talent comes in the door (and deserves blame for some of his misses especially guys like austin, sintim, barden etc), the composition of talent on the roster is up to Coughlin. He decides who is worthy of making the roster and who doesn't. He has cut some guys who have gone on to have really good productive careers elsewhere.
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and has shown great signs so far. Jennings looked really good early on. Eli has looked better and better with this offense. Minus the SF game, he has 7 interceptions this year. We are going in the right direction with the O.
I don't know why it is funny. I stated that our front office needs to do a better job. However, Fewell has shown his ineptitude time and time again. McAdoo has shown a lot more in his limited time.
I wish I could see the great signs you do. I see an extremely inept offense, the weaker of the two units on the team (not saying much).
Not an indictment of McAdoo since they aren't exactly mega talented, but barring a couple of games against absolutely lousy teams I haven't seen the promise you're referring to, outside of an improvement to Eli's stats.
Last night - down 3, they came out with a minute left and 3 timeouts, at home, against a shitty defense, and couldn't muster a single first down. Not even 10 yards. Nothing promising about that.
If you can't see the difference in this system, I don't know what to tell you. Eli's INTs are way down, completion % up, they are better in the RZ. There just isn't enough talent. The OL is awful, and they have 1 WR now...
You think Gilbride would have lined up ODB in the backfield like the other night?
This team sucks, yes. The talent sucks, yes. But the offensive system is not an issue. I like it.
In 2015 we will have our 5th defensive coordinator under Coughlin and somehow Tom fucking Quinn will still have his job...but no it's not a Coughlin problem.
In 2015 we will have our 5th defensive coordinator under Coughlin and somehow Tom fucking Quinn will still have his job...but no it's not a Coughlin problem.
Right on
Nah, should have included TC as well. But my post really was a response to all the newspapers suddenly talking about Fewell being let go, and I wanted to respond to the shortcomings of some of the decision-makers who have left Fewell with an untalented defense. He shouldn't take all the blame for this mess, imo.
As for me, I'd start over with a whole new coaching staff. If that HC wanted to keep McAdoo that would be fine with me and perhaps easiest for Eli, but if not so be it.
But I'd also want the team to have been doing a regular, yearly assessment of their scouting department and player rankings, and make whatever changes need making there as well. I've been under the assumption that the team did "self-scout" their scouts and prior drafts, but if they have been, the improvement you would expect to have seen certainly has not been apparent.
While Gettleman and the pro personnel department routinely picked diamonds from the discards of other teams, our drafts have been really awful in certain areas for a long time (LB and mid-round OL just a few such examples) and have gotten worse since Ross took over the draft.
I just didn't see it as fair to blame Fewell (who I do think did a very poor job) for all of the team's defensive failings, let alone be the scapegoat for the entire coaching/management team after this year.