love seeing Will Hill destroying NO

Will Hill f--ked the Giants.

Try to remember that.

aren't true, lol?

Guy covers like a corner. What a shame to see the assholes playing S for the Giants.

wife/girlfriend cheats every day on him, and the husband/boyfriend is like "it's ok I'll just ignore it and trust that you'll never do it again, however, I just want to keep you because you're so good to me'

In comment 11999768 Exit 172 said:

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Will Hill f--ked the Giants. Try to remember that.

I said it when we cut him and I stand by it now. You don't cut that level of talent when you have nothing behind it. Short sited, stubborn decision by our organization to make a point. Ended up hurting our team more than we hurt Will Hill. If the guy was dumb enough to get in trouble again, you'd be in the same exact situation we're in now anyway. Just a dumb move IMO.

Shoulda kept him. Antrel, demps, and brown, have played in every game this year and still haven't shown up.

That's a cardinal sin. Definitely needed to be cut.

/SARCASM

That's all.

The Giants cut him because he smoked a joint.

Real good grasp of the situation...

it's more then that, it's knowingly breaking Team and NFL rules over and over again that got him suspended. Didn't he trash a house/not pay rent as well? Just a little insight to his character as a person

that got him cut I meant to say

in the first 8 games?

Oh yeah, not at all, because he was SUSPENDED (again!) all 8 games.

What a player to build around!

We were done. Doesn't matter.

and sanctimony from people like Josh. If he were on the Cowboys, you'd rip them for being a complete piece of shit and them keeping him. But since he's on our team, it's okay to look the other way. Give me a break.

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Hill as a player but they had no choice to cut him, he gave them no choice. He kept making the same mistake over and over and didn't seem to give a shit. The people saying oh it was just weed are just as dumb as he is.

no reason to cut him" Would be the same clamoring for him to be cut if still was here after, yet again, being suspended again. But he's doesn't let anyone down who rely on him. Point missing on many here.

In comment 11999810 MookGiants said:

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Hill as a player but they had no choice to cut him, he gave them no choice. He kept making the same mistake over and over and didn't seem to give a shit. The people saying oh it was just weed are just as dumb as he is.

agree with Mook... he had a chance to be a real star and smoked it away
HOF talent

The most overrated New York Giant of all time

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in the first 8 games? Oh yeah, not at all, because he was SUSPENDED (again!) all 8 games. What a player to build around!

It was a six game suspension, not eight. It was Aldon Smith who was suspended for nine games. The 49ers are one of the most respected NFL franchises. They and their fans didn't have any problem trying to get that hoodlum back as soon as possible. No one's criticized them for it.

This is the pros, not college. You're trying to win games, not mold a young man's character.

But he could wind up getting a much bigger contract before next season and with how much he's screwed up, the risk that he'd eat up a few million of cap and then get suspended for a year are too great. Maybe the team wins a couple of games more with him. I'd rather they move on rather than risking getting screwed harder by keeping him.

Sixty percent answered Eric's pre-season poll that the Giants would win at least ten games this year.

In comment 11999810 MookGiants said:

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Hill as a player but they had no choice to cut him, he gave them no choice. He kept making the same mistake over and over and didn't seem to give a shit. The people saying oh it was just weed are just as dumb as he is.

This. Hill gave the FO no choice, and those saying it's only marijuana are completely missing the big picture, which is that he failed to alter his behavior after repeated suspensions. If you look at the Will Hill situation and have anger towards anyone but Hill you just don't get it,

In comment 11999871 j_rud said:

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If you look at the Will Hill situation and have anger towards anyone but Hill you just don't get it,

Thread over.

..but then again thats easy to see since most of the same dim bulbs would say ELi lost the game last night..

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In comment 11999897 JCin332 said:

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..but then again thats easy to see since most of the same dim bulbs would say ELi lost the game last night..

Nailed it!!

compelling point made in any discussion.

In comment 11999870 Reese's Pieces said:

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Sixty percent answered Eric's pre-season poll that the Giants would win at least ten games this year.

...but that was before they cut Will Hill.

To the Giants head and said cut Will Hill.

We have no problem keeping any of these other knuckleheads on the payroll, including the talentless, the heartless, and the injury prone.

At least he could play.

Maybe you can't count on him year in and year out. Maybe you make it a point to always have a decent 3rd safety on the roster.

That should be done regardless. Otherwise it's like countimg on a safety coming off of an ACL injury.

that I find absolutely mind boggling is that Will Hill wouldn't have taken up a roster spot during his suspension. It makes no sense to cut him right away.

You hold onto him for the 8 weeks (or whatever) and then reevaluate the situation.

He was also late to meetings

When you continually lie to the guy whose name is on your paycheck after he has given you chance after chance after chance, it is not the organizations fault

Amazing that people still think it is just about smoking pot

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..but then again thats easy to see since most of the same dim bulbs would say ELi lost the game last night..

Captain strawman at it again.

And it wasn't even an expensive one. They overrated Stevie brown and thought they could have their cake (not invest in a pot head) and eat it too (still be ok at safety). Obviously the talent evaluation side of it was poor as everyone knew brown was fortunate to collect stats and sucked as a player.
Hill had potential and it would not have hurt to see it through another year.
Most are saying the Giants had no choice now because they also said the same prior and now look less bright with is needing safeties and hill is still a good player getting into the swing now.
Was a dumb decision then and its a dumb one now. Zero risk keeping him.

In comment 11999870 Reese's Pieces said:

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Sixty percent answered Eric's pre-season poll that the Giants would win at least ten games this year.

If you're the shining light of reason, then the benchmark has certainly been drastically lowered.

You'd think Will Hill was a cross of LT, Gandhi, & George Washington listening to his admirers.

The dude didn't get up. He kept smoking even when he knew he shouldn't. Sooner or later, you got to cut him loose. How many seasons can you start with him being suspended?

And he wasnt even suspended. You can't give players preferential treatment in a team game when you do you end up like the redskins who are constantly in shambles.

In comment 11999781 Josh in the City said:

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In comment 11999768 Exit 172 said: Quote: Will Hill f--ked the Giants. Try to remember that. I said it when we cut him and I stand by it now. You don't cut that level of talent when you have nothing behind it. Short sited, stubborn decision by our organization to make a point. Ended up hurting our team more than we hurt Will Hill. If the guy was dumb enough to get in trouble again, you'd be in the same exact situation we're in now anyway. Just a dumb move IMO.

The saying that you made up based on nothing,notwithstanding, he kept getting in trouble and he was lying to the team. It is a shame that you think it is OK and apparently don't understand what the Giants try to instill in their team and players. And I can't believe these fucktarded threads just never stop about this cockfuck.

In comment 11999865 Reese's Pieces said:

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In comment 11999792 Exit 172 said: Quote: in the first 8 games? Oh yeah, not at all, because he was SUSPENDED (again!) all 8 games. What a player to build around! It was a six game suspension, not eight. It was Aldon Smith who was suspended for nine games. The 49ers are one of the most respected NFL franchises. They and their fans didn't have any problem trying to get that hoodlum back as soon as possible. No one's criticized them for it. This is the pros, not college. You're trying to win games, not mold a young man's character.

The 49ers are not one of the most respected organizations.
He was suspended 3 times. He will likely be suspended again.

Will Hill is going to be a distant memory . He will be suspended again , he will be cut again. TBH I'm glad he messed up again. Had he got through the season and played well , he would have gotten a large contract . Then he would have screwed the giants with his next suspension ! No team will ever give this guy a big contract.

is really a bizarre phenomenon

In comment 11999810 MookGiants said:

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Hill as a player but they had no choice to cut him, he gave them no choice. He kept making the same mistake over and over and didn't seem to give a shit. The people saying oh it was just weed are just as dumb as he is.

Exactly, Mook.

It's the message you send to the rest of your team if you keep him on the team.

If you want to be mad at someone for Will Hill being released, be mad at Will Hill for being a dumb ass.

personal responsibilities.

We get it, this is just a sports team you follow, so fuck the team holding their players to their side of an agreement regarding not doing something (again) that will be detrimental to the team. While you lament and whine about the Giants cutting a player you deemed potential pro bowler, the team has to think long term in their continued investment in a player, who may or may not be available next season or even next game.

I just hope that those people continuing to miss the point that Hill was released due to his inability to hold up his side of the agreement with the team aren't this cavalier about personal responsibilities in their real life.

he'd just be screwing up the giants draft pick.

In comment 11999931 chris r said:

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In comment 11999897 JCin332 said: Quote: ..but then again thats easy to see since most of the same dim bulbs would say ELi lost the game last night.. Captain strawman at it again.

People who think Eli cost the Giants the game Sunday night= dumbass/dim bulbs

People who think the Giants cut Will Hill because he smoked pot= dumbass/dim bulbs

Why does chris r stalk BBI making contrarian comments all day= he doesn't get laid much...?

how important it is to have a guy like Will Hill OUT of the locker room.

First of all, the other players on the team are NOT going to side with him because they do not appreciate the fact that HE is potentially wrecking everything they are all working so hard for. Players do not have time for other players who are selfish like he is. He was a good player on a bad defense but he was NOT Lawrence Taylor.

Second of all, having a guy miss a significant number of games due to a suspension is really bad when it comes to managing your roster. You are essentially releasing someone else that can potentially help you when you keep a player like Will Hill. You also need some kind of consistency in that position and you want someone who you can rely on for an entire season. Just look at what happens when we have a replacement safety back there. Things typically do not go well for us. You can blame talent but it often is also related to not having the time to develop an understanding of where you need to be. So, to have Will Hill in there for 8 games, then he gets busted again and you are going into the back half of the season with some new guy? No thank you

than have a low-character, non-team player rot the inside of the organization like a cancer. He had to go...perhaps you should let it go too!