Oh, I get that. Getting out of DC is only the first step, and there's no guarantee he smartens up in a different environment. I feel pretty certain, though, that he would never change if he stays a Redskin.
You have to be kidding about switching rg3 and Wilson. One guy has no ego and is a team player, the other thinks he's gods gift to the NFL. Rg3 was a major risk coming into the NFL with serious injuries in college. Wilson is an incredibly smart QB that makes huge plays in huge moments. Rg3 isn't in wilsons class.
You have to be kidding about switching rg3 and Wilson. One guy has no ego and is a team player, the other thinks he's gods gift to the NFL. Rg3 was a major risk coming into the NFL with serious injuries in college. Wilson is an incredibly smart QB that makes huge plays in huge moments. Rg3 isn't in wilsons class.
I think he had that potential.
Washington is a dysfunctional organization with a deluded high pressure fan base and a crazy owner.
Maybe if he goes to the pacific northwest, plays a little read option in smaller doses, and just manages a game more with a great D, he'd be awesome.
He's definitely more athletically talented than WIlson, and during his rookie year, was able to pass the ball just as well if not better.
People are really underrating RG3's rookie year. It was arguably an all time great rookie season. The Redskins ruined him.
65.6% 3200 yards 20 touchdowns 5 INT (8 yards per attempt)
"Overrated novelty act".
I think that season kind of works both ways. It shows that there is talent there, but when you consider the kind of offense he played in that season and the fact that he physically can't play that style anymore, he's going to have to adapt. Thus far, he's refused to face that fact. As the Skins beat writer quoted in the other Bob thread detailed, that was the main driver of the conflict between the Shanahans and Bob. They wanted him to adapt to a different offense, as well as take the time to fully heal, and Griffin refused. Since Danny Boy lets him do whatever he wants, Shanahan got fired and Bob was empowered to continue being a jackass.
He inherited a team on the ascent and has never been asked to carry the load on offense (Seattle is last in passes attempted by far since he was drafted).
RG3 stepped into a disaster.
Fox Sports also reporting the beginning of the end Â
there's is alot that been said that isn't really in the natinal conscious. he has bad study habits and it' sbeen confirmed. he doesn't spend a lot of time in the study room.
There is also the issue that his Father does not want him to run the read option. His father said that a "running quarterback is a loser quarterback"..
i thihk the perception that the Shanny's ruined him is waay overblown. They made him what he is buy adopting Baylor's offense. The problem is, RG3 does NOT want to be that kind of QB. He wants to be a pocket passer and unfortunately, he does not have the prokcet presence to be one..
You can't play QB in the NFL. Clean pocket, two open corner routes, three open options underneath, and Griffin pulls down the ball, scrambles right (into the path of the DE) and ends up throwing the ball away.
great post…..I met Cooley on vacation couple years back. Awesome guy, bought my friends and myself rounds of drinks, hung out by the pool and eventually asked a group of us if we want to go fishing with him and his friend which we declined because he wouldnt let us chip in for the boat.
We talked football and this guy is definitely a student of the game. Some great analysis there and really true stuff. RG3 is just not the same guy he was as a rookie. He ran the option his rookie year and his body just couldnt support it. Now hes asked to be a pocket QB in Grudens system and he cannot do it. Sadly for them, Mccoy gives them a better chance to win.
is nowhere near Wilson's level. He was close for about 2 months and that was back in 2012. That didn't last. Wilson isn't perfect but he can play from the pocket and make the reads. Bob can't do this very well. Never could.
And I am shocked that people liked Bob more than Luck. Luck was as sure a thing as you would get while Bob was an athlete who played QB well only because of his athleticism. Nothing wrong with that, but he was never the player or NFL prospect Luck was. I don't care how gifted Bob was, you never ever ever take that kind of QB over a QB like Luck.
Lets get rid of Eli for a boatload and get Bob on the cheap... Â
for having a backup with more mobility. Joe Montana had Steve Young. Shit, Simms had Hostetler. It adds another dimension, and catches teams off guards if, god forbid, you had to have a sub.
RE: Ronnie, I think there's something to be said Â
for having a backup with more mobility. Joe Montana had Steve Young. Shit, Simms had Hostetler. It adds another dimension, and catches teams off guards if, god forbid, you had to have a sub.
Sure, but unlike RGIII, Young and Hosteler could both actually play the position by reading the defense and going through their progressions. Why would you want a backup that lacks some of the most fundamental skills in a system like ours just because he can run?
And you don't sign a backup to use him as a situational weapon to throw the opponent off guards. You sign a backup, who can hold down the fort while your starter heals, which may last into weeks or even a season.
The NFL has figured out how to defense the running quarterbacks Â
Make them pass from the pocket. Wilson is another of this group who struggles from the pocket. He has been carried by a good defense that is not as good this year. He has not been able to pick up the slack and does not make average receivers better.
65.6% 3200 yards 20 touchdowns 5 INT (8 yards per attempt)
"Overrated novelty act".
I think he had that potential.
Washington is a dysfunctional organization with a deluded high pressure fan base and a crazy owner.
Maybe if he goes to the pacific northwest, plays a little read option in smaller doses, and just manages a game more with a great D, he'd be awesome.
He's definitely more athletically talented than WIlson, and during his rookie year, was able to pass the ball just as well if not better.
People are really underrating RG3's rookie year. It was arguably an all time great rookie season. The Redskins ruined him.
65.6% 3200 yards 20 touchdowns 5 INT (8 yards per attempt)
"Overrated novelty act".
I think that season kind of works both ways. It shows that there is talent there, but when you consider the kind of offense he played in that season and the fact that he physically can't play that style anymore, he's going to have to adapt. Thus far, he's refused to face that fact. As the Skins beat writer quoted in the other Bob thread detailed, that was the main driver of the conflict between the Shanahans and Bob. They wanted him to adapt to a different offense, as well as take the time to fully heal, and Griffin refused. Since Danny Boy lets him do whatever he wants, Shanahan got fired and Bob was empowered to continue being a jackass.
RG3 stepped into a disaster.
Griffin's Career Over...In Washington, Anyway - ( New Window )
There is also the issue that his Father does not want him to run the read option. His father said that a "running quarterback is a loser quarterback"..
i thihk the perception that the Shanny's ruined him is waay overblown. They made him what he is buy adopting Baylor's offense. The problem is, RG3 does NOT want to be that kind of QB. He wants to be a pocket passer and unfortunately, he does not have the prokcet presence to be one..
You can't play QB in the NFL. Clean pocket, two open corner routes, three open options underneath, and Griffin pulls down the ball, scrambles right (into the path of the DE) and ends up throwing the ball away.
Chris Cooley tells it like it is - ( New Window )
We talked football and this guy is definitely a student of the game. Some great analysis there and really true stuff. RG3 is just not the same guy he was as a rookie. He ran the option his rookie year and his body just couldnt support it. Now hes asked to be a pocket QB in Grudens system and he cannot do it. Sadly for them, Mccoy gives them a better chance to win.
And I am shocked that people liked Bob more than Luck. Luck was as sure a thing as you would get while Bob was an athlete who played QB well only because of his athleticism. Nothing wrong with that, but he was never the player or NFL prospect Luck was. I don't care how gifted Bob was, you never ever ever take that kind of QB over a QB like Luck.
I hope I dont have clarify my sarcasm
Sure, but unlike RGIII, Young and Hosteler could both actually play the position by reading the defense and going through their progressions. Why would you want a backup that lacks some of the most fundamental skills in a system like ours just because he can run?
And you don't sign a backup to use him as a situational weapon to throw the opponent off guards. You sign a backup, who can hold down the fort while your starter heals, which may last into weeks or even a season.