The giants linebackers have a total of zero ints. Thats hard to do. You should get a couple just by accident.
I believe they have a total of 7 passes defended for the season. The giants linebackers are terrible in coverage.
We all know all of the linebackers are terrible against the run. The stats back that up. If a RB gets past the d-line there is nobody home and it's going for a big gain. I believe the giants lead the league in giving up runs of 10 plus yards. That's bad LB play.
Giants linebackers are terrible against the screen. We have all seen that.
The giants linebackers have a total of a 1/2 sack for season. They can not blitz.
It is clear all the giants linebackers are terrible in every phase of the game. When this happens i believe it effects the play of the other positions on defense. It makes them weaker. It changes the way they think and play. Look at JPP. That guy is thinking run. Sometimes he doesn't even attempt to pass rush. He knows if he doesn't stop the run there is no one to back him up.
It effects the safeties. They have to move up in the box. They have to think run.
It effects the DC. Why blitz a linebacker if he can't blitz. That just puts more pressure on the secondary.
I believe if the giants focus on the linebacker position during the off season and find a couple of players in either free agency or the draft that are very good players, they don't have to be great, This will improve the entire defense. You will see a big turn around in the entire defense.
2007 Reggie Torber, Peirce, Kawika Mitchell
2011 Kiwi, Blackburn, Boley
What we have know is incompetence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92u0Yd2KMTQ&index=20&list=UUEJceKWs3qO-VgQnaVZ-MRw - ( New Window )
What we have know is incompetence.
Not disagreeing. The injury to Beason hurt. You put him the middle with McClain and Kennard/Williams, more plays might have been made from the group.
Beason was literally awful in coverage.
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The loss of Beason has hurt the Giants this year enormously, just as his addition last year made the difference in the second half of the season.
Beason was literally awful in coverage.
Had a nice INT last season vs the packers. Not disagreeing with you, but the point was our current LBers don't make plays. He does.
87: 0
88: 0
89: Jerome Rinehart and Eric Smith
90: 0
91: Kanavis McGhee, Anthony Moss and Corey Miller
92: Corey Widmer
93: Marcus Buckley and Jessie Armstead
94: 0
95: Ben Talley
96: Doug Colman and Scott Galyon
97: Ryan Phillips and Pete Monty
98: 0
99: O.J. Childresss
00: Brandon Short and Dhani Jones
01: 0
02: Nick Greisen and Wes Mallard
03: 0
04: Reggie Torbor
05: 0
06: Gerris Wilkinson
07: 0
08: Jon Goff and Bryan Kehl
09: Clint Sintim....ARGH!
10: Phillip Dillard
11: Greg Jones and Jacquin Williams
12: 0
13: 0
14: Devon Kennard
To me it's amazing that we have so consistently failed to pick competent LBs for almost 30 years. WTF? When Parcells was here we had the eye for functional LBs, even in later rounds. Headen and Hunt come to mind. Since then, nada.
87: 0
88: 0
89: Jerome Rinehart and Eric Smith
90: 0
91: Kanavis McGhee, Anthony Moss and Corey Miller
92: Corey Widmer
93: Marcus Buckley and Jessie Armstead
94: 0
95: Ben Talley
96: Doug Colman and Scott Galyon
97: Ryan Phillips and Pete Monty
98: 0
99: O.J. Childresss
00: Brandon Short and Dhani Jones
01: 0
02: Nick Greisen and Wes Mallard
03: 0
04: Reggie Torbor
05: 0
06: Gerris Wilkinson
07: 0
08: Jon Goff and Bryan Kehl
09: Clint Sintim....ARGH!
10: Phillip Dillard
11: Greg Jones and Jacquin Williams
12: 0
13: 0
14: Devon Kennard
To me it's amazing that we have so consistently failed to pick competent LBs for almost 30 years. WTF? When Parcells was here we had the eye for functional LBs, even in later rounds. Headen and Hunt come to mind. Since then, nada.
It's fair to point out, but it's fair to point out that at some point we switched philosophy and went to 4-3 making DL more important. Our draft record with Dline in the past 30 years I think is a little better.
87: 0
88: 0
89: Jerome Rinehart and Eric Smith
90: 0
91: Kanavis McGhee, Anthony Moss and Corey Miller
92: Corey Widmer
93: Marcus Buckley and Jessie Armstead
94: 0
95: Ben Talley
96: Doug Colman and Scott Galyon
97: Ryan Phillips and Pete Monty
98: 0
99: O.J. Childresss
00: Brandon Short and Dhani Jones
01: 0
02: Nick Greisen and Wes Mallard
03: 0
04: Reggie Torbor
05: 0
06: Gerris Wilkinson
07: 0
08: Jon Goff and Bryan Kehl
09: Clint Sintim....ARGH!
10: Phillip Dillard
11: Greg Jones and Jacquin Williams
12: 0
13: 0
14: Devon Kennard
To me it's amazing that we have so consistently failed to pick competent LBs for almost 30 years. WTF? When Parcells was here we had the eye for functional LBs, even in later rounds. Headen and Hunt come to mind. Since then, nada.
Holy friggen shyte!... what a terrible list aside from a couple of people... jeeeeezus
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In comment 12002369 GeofromNJ said:
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The loss of Beason has hurt the Giants this year enormously, just as his addition last year made the difference in the second half of the season.
Beason was literally awful in coverage.
Had a nice INT last season vs the packers. Not disagreeing with you, but the point was our current LBers don't make plays. He does.
Not if he isn't on the field, you have to wonder what the mindset will be this off season regarding Beason Sure he is a very good player but if you can't count on him it does you no good. It's the reason why he was available to us in the first place.
It's true, but Blackburn also benefitted from a much better Dline. It's a team effort no matter how you slice it.
It's hard to see an 8 man blitz NOT be able to get to the QB.
Us old guys remember seeing that in the late 60's-all of 70's garbage players also not get to the QB.
How many DCs during that time?
Ignore oil changes long enough...>...blown engine.
AAMCO commercial some years ago:
'YOU CAN PAY ME NOW(for an inspection and possible minor repair)OR YOU CAN PAY ME LATER.'
Welcome to LATER.
Ditto OL.
I agree with all that.
Beason, McClain, and Kennard didn't really qualify as a major talent infusion this past season, considering how pathetic the position was. It's okay for him to draft and stash someone for 2 years down the road at a position he values, even though the next man up for the LB corp could be herzlich ora substitute math teacher!!
We can only hope...
I don't think the DC is disguising a blitz for these things to happen:
Week 6 vs. Chicago in 2013
Ummm....
Week 12 vs. Dallas 2014
Look at how McClain runs on the play. You put a faster, better LB on the field and the play looks better.
So we are really asking for the staff to figure a way to put middling players like these guys you see here in good positions? Really?
Kavika Mitchell
Chase Blackburn
Antonio Pierce
Reggie Torbor
Should never have let Blackburn walk in FA in my opinion. He was cheap, versatile, and a good special teams player. I really like Mitchell in 07 but he was in the twilight of his career. I get it, Reese doesn't want to invest premium picks and dollars in LBs in a 4-3. Makes sense to me in some ways, but that means he needs to find proven inexpensive talent FA...
Your coaches do not trust his understanding of the defensive scheme. If he wanted to get on the field he would figure it out.