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Upcoming Free Agents that you want on the Giants

JoeyBigBlue : 11/26/2014 12:45 pm
The guy I want is Devin McCourty. Local Rutgers kid, that can take over for Rolle next season. He's really played since moving to Safety
Bulaga, Suh and Dez Bryant...and fat chance for that.  
yatqb : 11/26/2014 12:50 pm : link
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Just hoping for a good FA G  
BillT : 11/26/2014 12:50 pm : link
Hope there is one that works for us
Ndamukong Suh  
NEJINTSFAN : 11/26/2014 12:58 pm : link
One of the more underrated aspects of a pass rush is collapsing the pocket, preventing the QB from stepping up to pass and/or forcing the QB out of the pocket and into the DEs. Aside from being able to,stuff the run Suh would significantly pressure th QBs and help our anemic pass rush- not to mention force sacks and turnovers. As TC stated when he joined the Giants- it starts with the Lines in both sides of the ball and Suh would be a huge boost to the DL
BB will  
OldPolack : 11/26/2014 1:04 pm : link
sign Suh while the Mara's have their fingers on the money.
I want Suh  
cokeduplt : 11/26/2014 1:04 pm : link
Aw we'll but I don't know if it's realistic. McCourty would be good to
I'd like one of the premier WRs  
SB : 11/26/2014 1:07 pm : link
Bryant
Demaryious Thomas
Randall Cobb (though he is a Beckham type player)
Maclin

There are also quality WRs on a slightly lower tier that would cost less:
Torrey Smith
Cecil Shorts
Andre Holmes
Crabtree
Britt

These guys are all still young and have been successful (to varying degrees). Better to sign a WR then keep burning draft picks. Reese has been about 50-50 on WR picks.
''than'' not ''then''  
SB : 11/26/2014 1:08 pm : link
(duh)
steal one of Peyton's weapons  
GIANTSr01 : 11/26/2014 1:09 pm : link
either Thomas will due.

Iupati to give the OL an edge.

Suh in the middle

Avril at DE
RE: I'd like one of the premier WRs  
GIANTSr01 : 11/26/2014 1:11 pm : link
In comment 12002425 SB said:
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Bryant
Demaryious Thomas
Randall Cobb (though he is a Beckham type player)
Maclin

There are also quality WRs on a slightly lower tier that would cost less:
Torrey Smith
Cecil Shorts
Andre Holmes
Crabtree
Britt

These guys are all still young and have been successful (to varying degrees). Better to sign a WR then keep burning draft picks. Reese has been about 50-50 on WR picks.


Maclin's having a nice season, but he's not in the same class as those other 3.

One of those "2nd tier" WRs is the most likely option. Good insurance in case Cruz isn't 100%.
someone wrote  
Fish : 11/26/2014 1:12 pm : link
Suh and iupati. Big time fixes for us.
If anyone would like to browse the list  
mac attack : 11/26/2014 1:14 pm : link
this is a pretty good website
2015 NFL Free Agent List - ( New Window )
2 GOOD OL  
old man : 11/26/2014 1:18 pm : link
Iupati one of them, and Suh.
Financially having both could be crippling, and though I like Suh, I believe our O can be exceptional with a good OL and another WR, slot if it has to be, considering.
The 20M NOT spent on Suh could by another good OL, and fill a few needs.
And STILL draft an OL at 1 or 2; MI might be a bit of beat up warrior, and GS is 33.
I'd rather have a veteran OL  
mac attack : 11/26/2014 1:21 pm : link
and draft pass rushers, but it's still early to know who will be available in FA and the draft.

I just ask that we bring in FOOTBALL players and not COMBINE warriors...
Suh makes no sense  
BillT : 11/26/2014 1:32 pm : link
DT is in better shape than DE and he will cost a fortune. Something realistic.
Iupati and Brandon Spikes  
Go Terps : 11/26/2014 1:37 pm : link
Two guys that are unpleasant to play against.
RE: Suh makes no sense  
GIANTSr01 : 11/26/2014 1:45 pm : link
In comment 12002498 BillT said:
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DT is in better shape than DE and he will cost a fortune. Something realistic.


DT might be in "better" shape, but it's definitely not a strong position. Outside of Hankins there is an unknown in Bromley, the aging Patterson, the aging-injured Jenkins, and the (generously) mediocre Kuhn.

RE: Iupati and Brandon Spikes  
GIANTSr01 : 11/26/2014 1:46 pm : link
In comment 12002510 Go Terps said:
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Two guys that are unpleasant to play against.


Completely agree that this team needs some toughness (on both sides), but wouldn't Spikes be a 2-down LB in this D?
Posted this on another thread as a "Watch List":  
drkenneth : 11/26/2014 1:49 pm : link
Pos. Player Team Age Note
RB Jacquizz Rodgers ATL 25
RB C.J. Spiller BUF 28
RB Stevan Ridley NE 26
RB Shane Vereen NE 26
RB Travaris Cadet NO 26 R
TE Jermaine Gresham CIN 27
TE Jordan Cameron CLE 27
TE Julius Thomas DEN 27
OT Bryan Bulaga GB 26
OT King Dunlap SD 30
G Clint Boling CIN 26
G Orlando Franklin DEN 28
G Marcus Cannon NE 27
G Mike Iupati SF 28
DT Alameda Ta’amu ARI 25 R
DT Dan Williams ARI 28
DT Stephen Paea CHI 27
DT Nick Fairley DET 27
DT Ndamukong Suh DET 28
4-3 OLB Sean Weatherspoon ATL 28
4-3 OLB Bruce Carter DAL 27
ILB Brandon Spikes BUF 28
ILB Rey Maualuga CIN 28
CB Walter Thurmond NYG 28
S Patrick Chung NE 28
S Devin McCourty NE 28
S Antrel Rolle NYG 33
S Major Wright TB 27
Marcus Cannon is very interesting...  
drkenneth : 11/26/2014 1:50 pm : link
Can play both OT and G...Is massive.

Someone to keep an eye on.
RE: RE: Iupati and Brandon Spikes  
Go Terps : 11/26/2014 1:59 pm : link
In comment 12002535 GIANTSr01 said:
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In comment 12002510 Go Terps said:


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Two guys that are unpleasant to play against.



Completely agree that this team needs some toughness (on both sides), but wouldn't Spikes be a 2-down LB in this D?


The defense figures to be a completely different system next year. But even if he has to come off the field on passing downs it doesn't mean he couldn't add great value.

Remember Jeremiah Trotter? He didn't do much in pass defense but I remember him having an enormous impact on the running game. He was an unusually strong, violent player...a defensive tackle in a linebacker's body. I always thought he was a great asset to any defense he was on. EJ Henderson was the same way.

I feel similarly about Spikes. He's an unusually violent hitter, and can take on OL en route to the ball carrier.

The Giants defense needs Spikes or a guy with a similar approach to the game in the worst way. This defense now just gets pushed around and it's insulting to a franchise that has always been about defense.
This a really good free agent class.  
bceagle05 : 11/26/2014 2:03 pm : link
Glad the Giants have money to spend.
Talking free agency on 11/26  
BlueHurricane : 11/26/2014 2:12 pm : link
How far we have fallen :-(
Everybody talking OL, DL and LB... definitely need a vet WR too  
GloryDayz : 11/26/2014 2:18 pm : link
in case Cruz isnt the same.
We can't afford both Eli and Suh...  
Jacobs27 : 11/26/2014 2:58 pm : link
so forget about Suh. I'd rather spend half (or 2/3rds) the money and go for Nick Fairley.

And definitely a guard but no Iupati, who is apparently not very good in pass protection.
Hopefully the empty suit  
Dye Job : 11/26/2014 3:18 pm : link
is not involved in this process as he brings us another David Baas or some other invalid that their former team wants no part of as does the rest of the NFL except this genius.
KJ Wright  
Reb8thVA : 11/26/2014 3:20 pm : link
Orlando Franklin, Randall Cobb, and Suh of course
Vereen  
dep026 : 11/26/2014 3:20 pm : link
is interesting to me. Would be a GREAT 3rd down or back out of the backfield. Can even split him wide. Him and Jennings would be a very nice combo.
Is Larry Fitzgerald...  
2ndroundKO : 11/26/2014 3:23 pm : link
a free agent?
RE: Hopefully the empty suit  
Jacobs27 : 11/26/2014 3:26 pm : link
In comment 12002719 Dye Job said:
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is not involved in this process as he brings us another David Baas or some other invalid that their former team wants no part of as does the rest of the NFL except this genius.


When healthy Baas played very well for us. He was huge during our Super Bowl run in 2011. Guess Reese should have used his crystal ball to predict injuries again.

But please, carry on.
1. Suh 1A. James Carpenter, OG-OT Seattle  
doncam : 11/26/2014 4:10 pm : link
1B. Orlando Franklin, OG Denver
We also need a TE that can block….  
Simms11 : 11/26/2014 5:17 pm : link
big help to the oline. Don't need to get a superstar, but someone that can block and provide an occassional catch.
I like Cannon as well  
JonC : 11/26/2014 5:28 pm : link
if they clear Iupati's noggin I'd sign him and Cannon. Voila, OL : Beatty-Pugh-Richburg-Iupati-Cannon ... and then draft a prospect they think could represent an upgrade over Beatty.

Defense needs a lot of help, I'd sign a DT and Carter. Beason probably gets another year, I'd wager.

Unlikely the above happens given our cap situation, but ...
RE: Vereen  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 11/26/2014 5:35 pm : link
In comment 12002726 dep026 said:
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is interesting to me. Would be a GREAT 3rd down or back out of the backfield. Can even split him wide. Him and Jennings would be a very nice combo.


I would tend to agree with you .. HOWEVER, we would never use him correctly. Last week we ran a screen and the game thread here nearly collapsed from shock. Plus, if we do not fix this O-line, the our RBs will continue to have to stay back to support protecting Eli.
Suh and Spikes would transform the entire  
Grandpa : 11/26/2014 7:54 pm : link
defense. Iupati would elevate running game by leaps and bounds. Torrey Smith added to Beckham and Cruz would create mismatches everywhere. Unless Melvin Gordon is the pick use the draft for OL on 2 of first 3 picks with LB the other.
JonC  
Earl the goat : 11/26/2014 8:15 pm : link
Love that OLINE you said. Pugh should definitely go to guard. Right side should consist of maulers and mass. Cannon and Iupati give that
Relying on free agency is bad business  
BigBlueinChicago : 11/26/2014 8:20 pm : link
it is meant to fortify certain areas if you need a player here or there.

But it should not be used as a tool to build the roster.

This is where the poor drafting is hurting us. We would not need to worry about who the free agents are if we could internally have solutions.

Instead, we put in money on a bunch of "buyer beware" players at either inflated prices or at short commitments to where they can outplay their contract and sign elsewhere if he actually works out.

Oh the pain.

JonC forgetting we just inked Schwartz  
BlueHurricane : 11/26/2014 8:31 pm : link
To a multi year deal worth a lot of money. We cutting him or is he going to be a very rich backup in your world????
People have this romantic, hipster idea of homegrown talent  
chris r : 11/26/2014 8:40 pm : link
and poo poo FA.

Lets look at the FA starters from the 2007 SB.

O'Hara
McKenzie
Burress

Pierce
Robbins
Mitchell
Madison

And from 2011:
Baas
McKenzie

Canty
Boley
Grant
Rolle

RE: 2 GOOD OL  
Giants2012 : 11/26/2014 8:43 pm : link
In comment 12002455 old man said:
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Iupati one of them, and Suh.
Financially having both could be crippling, and though I like Suh, I believe our O can be exceptional with a good OL and another WR, slot if it has to be, considering.
The 20M NOT spent on Suh could by another good OL, and fill a few needs.
And STILL draft an OL at 1 or 2; MI might be a bit of beat up warrior, and GS is 33.


The Giantsvhave approx 90 million in cap space for 2016 according to under the cap. Even if they sign Eli for $20 million they appear able to sign just about anything they want. Losing for multiple years, retirements and missing kn draft choices has some advantages.
Suh  
Dragon : 11/27/2014 12:55 am : link
He is going to cost big money and not sure he wants to come to another loosing team.
Well OL and front seven on defense  
youngdavid74 : 11/27/2014 1:34 am : link
Bulaga
Marcus Cannon
Spikes
Rolando McClain
K.J. Wright
McCourtey
Jerry Hughes
Byron Maxwell
Orlando Franklin
Jermaine Greisham
Jordan Cameron

Just a few names to keep an eye on
I think Crabtree would be an excellent complement to Beckham  
The Duke : 11/27/2014 12:15 pm : link
and would be a couple steps up from Randle who could be our #4 receiver. With Beckham & Crabtree on the outside and Cruz in the slot and Randle off the bench we could really do a lot of damage offensively!!!
RE: I think Crabtree would be an excellent complement to Beckham  
CGiants07 : 11/27/2014 1:15 pm : link
In comment 12003655 The Duke said:
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and would be a couple steps up from Randle who could be our #4 receiver. With Beckham & Crabtree on the outside and Cruz in the slot and Randle off the bench we could really do a lot of damage offensively!!!



I like the crabtree option as well. A guard or right tackle is needed as well. A pass rusher too
RE: RE: Hopefully the empty suit  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/27/2014 3:45 pm : link
In comment 12002737 Jacobs27 said:
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In comment 12002719 Dye Job said:


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is not involved in this process as he brings us another David Baas or some other invalid that their former team wants no part of as does the rest of the NFL except this genius.



When healthy Baas played very well for us. He was huge during our Super Bowl run in 2011. Guess Reese should have used his crystal ball to predict injuries again.

But please, carry on.

The problem wasn't the initial contract. It was the two restructures after he had shown to be injury prone while a Giant. Reese the Teflon GM loves on no matter how many times he fucks up
RE: Is Larry Fitzgerald...  
Bill in UT : 11/27/2014 5:22 pm : link
In comment 12002733 2ndroundKO said:
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a free agent?


yes
Marcus Cannon  
Giants2012 : 11/29/2014 6:40 pm : link
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RE: RE: Is Larry Fitzgerald...  
pjcas18 : 11/29/2014 6:44 pm : link
In comment 12003884 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 12002733 2ndroundKO said:


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a free agent?



yes



no
RE: JonC forgetting we just inked Schwartz  
JonC : 12/1/2014 9:03 am : link
In comment 12003173 BlueHurricane said:
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To a multi year deal worth a lot of money. We cutting him or is he going to be a very rich backup in your world????


Schwartz isn't making big money, look it up, and you can keep your lame sarcasm to yourself.
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