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Damontre Moore and Coughlin's comments

Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/26/2014 4:21 pm
I've read and re-read what Tom had to say. And yes, I'm going to start another thread. I'm a Coughlin supporter. Haven't always been the most vocal on this, but I love the guy. Having said that...if Moore is really having that hard of a time learning the defense...that is on coaching.
It's not on Reese (who I've been shredding all season). Reese gave these coaches (not just Tom) a young and very physically gifted young man who has shown occasional flashes on ST and on defense. But Tom says the confidence isn't there during the week that Moore knows his assignments.

OK. That, BBI...is 100% on the coaching staff. That is on Robert Nunn, who has had a tenure just as long as Fewell. That is on Fewell who oversees Nunn. That is on Coughlin who oversees the whole staff. What is the job of a coach? To get the most out of his players. This is a third round pick who produced highly at Texas A & M. But our coaches have failed in teaching him. This young man needs more attention from Nunn. But the limited time he has been on the field he hasn't been invisible. We have a valuable and physically talented DE on a unit that is desperate for pass rushing and our coaches can't get this kid to understand his assignments? We need coaches who can teach better.

One of the hallmarks of this defense is missed assignments in the secondary, poor angles by linebackers, DEs being unable to hold contain on the outside. Are we drafting the world's dumbest players or is it possible our coaching staff on mass, is failing to teach these players how to play the NFL game?

This, is on coaching.
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Moore lasted  
RetroJint : 11/27/2014 7:45 am : link
until the third-round because he was a lazy, dense, truculent person. He has played like it.
RE: Moore lasted  
Bill in UT : 11/27/2014 9:47 am : link
In comment 12003418 RetroJint said:
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until the third-round because he was a lazy, dense, truculent person. He has played like it.


Even if that's true, we used a 3rd round pick on him. Why? What did this staff think they could do to change that, and based on what?
diable  
gersh : 11/27/2014 9:52 am : link
you miss my point
You earn your right to play in the game during the week.
The players understand that
You have to reward the guys who set the right example

Now I want DMoore to play more
I'm just saying that we don't know what goes on during the week
I think people feel that  
bob in tx : 11/27/2014 10:54 am : link
in the last Dallas drive, with no pass rush, Fewell could have put in Moore and just say " get the QB". Perhaps. In fact, I lean in that direction.

But to BR's point, try to remember that Moore never played atA&M with his hand on the ground except for maybe 50% of his snaps his last year. He is still brand new to the position and as frustrating as it is to wait, Moore needed time. I would be surprised & disappointed if he doesn't " get it" at DE next year.
re  
diable : 11/27/2014 10:55 am : link
I understand what you're saying. We don't know what happens during the week. Coughlin is a hardass with younger players, so who knows.

What we do know is that Moore is a natural playmaker and his instincts are phenomenal. Fewell doesnt do anything elaborate anyways.

Kid can't learn from the bench.
Circular logic  
oipolloi : 11/27/2014 10:59 am : link
You have a DC who believes in rushing four and has shown zero ability to design pressure practices. Then when he is forced to go to pressure packages and they don't work, you exonerate him?

That's the same circular logic used to justify the running game.

Coughlins refusal to admit that his staff has chosen the wrong approach is bordering on the ridiculous. Ayers and Moore are the two best rushers after JPP. If you need a pass rush, those guys have to be in there. Worrying about the run is ridiculous. You want them to run the ball in the two minute drill
Ok, I agree, and I agree that not having DMoore (and Ayers)  
gersh : 11/27/2014 11:07 am : link
playing more at the end of the game was a very questionable decision but...

IIRC, the Cowboys got the ball back with about 3 mins left. My thought at that point was the Cowboys are going to run the ball and score without giving us enough time to respond.

When we put our base D in, the decision was made easy - throw the ball.
Now, when Romo was holding the ball for 8 seconds on successive plays, not doing anything to improve the pass rush is pretty indefensible.

Even if the idea is - if they score with enough time left - we can tie and/or win it with our offense--
Blitzing to try to make a play would have made more sense than keeping your pass rushers on the bench

Coughlin got lucky w Spags  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/27/2014 11:17 am : link
And the 2nd SB the D won on talent as opposed to scheme. Does anyone on the planet think Fewell gets the most out of his players? And Coughlin has farmed out his defense for years. He's the HC. He's just as much at fault
re  
diable : 11/27/2014 11:38 am : link
Romo was playing a broken back. Letting him off the hook is criminal!

Young players  
Q : 11/28/2014 7:07 pm : link
Damontre may be suffering from playing behind starters who aren't getting home. How can you show nim what to do, if you have no tape on how to do it from the previous games?

DM may be the next Cameron Wake, you can decide how long you want to wait to find out. Plus, he's a kid.
Moore would probably thrive as a 3-4 OLB  
jeff57 : 11/28/2014 7:10 pm : link
.
I think it is ridiculous when I hear someone say..  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 11/28/2014 8:59 pm : link
that Moore (or any other D lineman) cannot play the run. What this means is...

A. The player does not know how to tackle
AND/OR
B. The player cannot matchup physically against an O-Lineman.

If the answer is yes for either one of these, then said player does not belong playing D line in the NFL. Stop drafting tweeners.
Alls I knows is  
mrvax : 11/28/2014 8:59 pm : link
JPP has not progressed one damn bit since 2011 and he seems to have gotten worse. He should know and be excellent at a good 3-4 pass rush moves. He doesn't. Is he brain dead also?

Perhaps a clean sweep & going with coaches who have a proven track record of coaching players up.

Can't blitz. Can't rush the passer. Can't tackle or take the proper angles. WTH? This is not brain surgery. This is football.

Don't think it's mostly on coaches  
micky : 11/28/2014 10:01 pm : link
there's only so much you can teach a player.
It pains me to watch the Eagles chase Romo relentlessly  
Spock : 11/29/2014 9:01 am : link
While we can't get ten feet near him.
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