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Thanksgiving Football: Seahawks at 49ers

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2014 7:59 pm
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who are we rooting for  
spike : 11/27/2014 8:13 pm : link
to keep our NFC East friends out of a wild card spot?
RE: who are we rooting for  
bceagle05 : 11/27/2014 8:29 pm : link
In comment 12004088 spike said:
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to keep our NFC East friends out of a wild card spot?


San Fran.

They beat Dallas, and Dallas beat Seattle. Go Niners!
Al Michaels:  
natefit : 11/27/2014 8:33 pm : link
"Lets take a look at the San Francisco Chargers".
i am rooting for seattle  
CGiants07 : 11/27/2014 8:34 pm : link
since cant root for harbaugh ever. Philly pretty much locked up the division and Dallas a has tough remaining schedule
RE: Al Michaels:  
section125 : 11/27/2014 8:35 pm : link
In comment 12004098 natefit said:
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"Lets take a look at the San Francisco Chargers".


think he said San Francisco Starters
How is Ray McDonald  
old man : 11/27/2014 8:44 pm : link
STILL playing? Hasn't he been charged w/ d.v. YET?
I cannot root  
Stufftherun : 11/27/2014 8:52 pm : link
for the Forty Whiners under any circumstance ...well, almost any circumstance.
RE: How is Ray McDonald  
CGiants07 : 11/27/2014 8:53 pm : link
In comment 12004107 old man said:
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STILL playing? Hasn't he been charged w/ d.v. YET?


not enough evidence to charge
Kaepernick is terrible  
trueblueinpw : 11/27/2014 9:05 pm : link
I wonder if the Niners would have been better off keeping Smith.
the 3rd and long  
MookGiants : 11/27/2014 9:13 pm : link
draw play is the worst play in football. With the rules in place now there's no reason not to just chuck one deep. The only risk is an interception going the other way, but they call illegal contact, holding, PI all the time.
Al Michaels is horrible  
chris r : 11/27/2014 9:18 pm : link
he acts confused and underwhelmed on the most exciting plays of the game.
RE: Kaepernick is terrible  
Florida Warrior : 11/27/2014 9:22 pm : link
In comment 12004120 trueblueinpw said:
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I wonder if the Niners would have been better off keeping Smith.


Probably. except for that Super Bowl run.
Kaepernick  
MookGiants : 11/27/2014 9:23 pm : link
has had a rough year but let's not forget they were one play away from going to super bowl last year and one play away from winning it year before, both with Kaepernick at QB.

And Alex Smith isn't very good, either. Still hasn't thrown a TD to a WR this year
I guess...  
trueblueinpw : 11/27/2014 9:24 pm : link
Kap was pretty good on that run to the SB. What's happened?
they're a contender every year  
Florida Warrior : 11/27/2014 9:31 pm : link
since Harbaugh has been head coach.
Their offensive  
MookGiants : 11/27/2014 9:42 pm : link
line is the biggest problem right now.
49ers look pathetic.  
section125 : 11/27/2014 9:43 pm : link
utterly pathetic.
RE: 49ers look pathetic.  
Jints in Carolina : 11/27/2014 9:46 pm : link
In comment 12004143 section125 said:
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utterly pathetic.


as pathetic as their wine and cheese fans.
Niners Offense is Terrible  
clatterbuck : 11/27/2014 9:49 pm : link
and Kaepernick just isn't that good.
RE: the 3rd and long  
Giants4246 : 11/27/2014 9:49 pm : link
In comment 12004123 MookGiants said:
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draw play is the worst play in football. With the rules in place now there's no reason not to just chuck one deep. The only risk is an interception going the other way, but they call illegal contact, holding, PI all the time.


That play is a staple of the giants offense, unfortunately.
why  
MookGiants : 11/27/2014 9:54 pm : link
isn't harbaugh calling timeout?
Would love to have the Seahawks' luck  
Exit 172 : 11/27/2014 9:56 pm : link
sometime.

Good grief...how does Wilson get that ball back???
Stellar clock management  
Exit 172 : 11/27/2014 10:00 pm : link
by the 49ers to close out the half.
I don't know why the Niners accumulate WRs who are exactly the same  
chris r : 11/27/2014 10:03 pm : link
physical guys who can't stretch a defense. Boldin, Johnson and Crabtree are all similar. Didn't they trade Smith because he couldn't threaten teams vertically? Then aren't they getting vertical weapons? With Davis invisible this year, they have nobody who can beat his man deep.
I thought the Niners  
bceagle05 : 11/27/2014 10:15 pm : link
were gonna be that team that struggles early, gets hot at the end of the season, and maybe wins it all. Especially after they pulled off that comeback in New Orleans. But I just don't see it anymore. A loss tonight and they're toast.
RE: I guess...  
NINEster : 11/27/2014 10:21 pm : link
In comment 12004131 trueblueinpw said:
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Kap was pretty good on that run to the SB. What's happened?


I'm at work right now with most of the websites blocked but this one, haha, go figure...I just caught some of this s*** show of a game on break, and it looks like the worst case scenario has happened.

I'll venture a best guess why the 49ers offense sucks this year:

When Kaepernick took over in 2012, the offense was already clicking, particularly the run game and OL. They had Randy Moss as a deep threat decoy always drawing double coverage, and then they had Delanie Walker who was an asset in run blocking and a coverage mismatch. Crabtree was playing like a top 10 receiver that year, and Davis was Davis.

From a offensive talent blueprint, that 49er team was probably the best built in the Harbaugh era, but nobody figured it as such back then.

Recall also the pistol and read option fad took the league by storm. Coupled by Kaepernick's status as a backup and not the starter, and you could say his confidence was higher.

For the remainder of the season until the Super Bowl, Kaepernick had everything going for him.

Then as you know, the league gets film on you and slowly starts to figure you out.

Simultaneously the 49er OL and run game has dropped off, which is paramount for any success in this offense. In 2012, they were #1 ranked run block OL by PFF, and last year #2. This year they are #7 or #8. Gore's production has dropped off enough to make an impact.

Also, the 49ers passing game from a route concept is pretty basic and s***. It's a poor man's version of an Erhardt/Norv Turner vertical offense. Everything is all or nothing long passes it seems.

And one of the posters here called it -- too many of the same WR, but no real deep threat. If the rumor that Desean Jackson nearly signed with SF is true, this offense would certainly be better.

Kaepernick doesn't seem suited to a pure WCO, so you have to provide the structure around him to succeed.

TLDR:

League has caught up to Harbaugh/Greg Roman offense. OL and Gore have regressed. Kaepernick's growth hasn't kept pace. Offense more dominant when it has 2 legit TE threats and 1 deep threat over 4 possession WRs.

And the rumblings about Harbaugh? IMO, this is it. A great head coach for getting guys to play, but this offense has worn out its welcome.

Happy Thanksgiving from Diego Garcia.
Aaron Lynch  
chris r : 11/27/2014 10:24 pm : link
would be nice to have.
these games have sucked today  
Jints in Carolina : 11/27/2014 10:28 pm : link
,
9rs suck  
ZogZerg : 11/27/2014 10:28 pm : link
How did the Giants lose to that team?
RE: these games have sucked today  
spike : 11/27/2014 10:28 pm : link
In comment 12004178 Jints in Carolina said:
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agreed. Not one close game
RE: 9rs suck  
Exit 172 : 11/27/2014 10:32 pm : link
In comment 12004179 ZogZerg said:
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How did the Giants lose to that team?


...Because the Giants suck worse?
lol  
MookGiants : 11/27/2014 10:35 pm : link
somehow every ref missed that facemask
Does Kaepernick ever  
Exit 172 : 11/27/2014 10:36 pm : link
throw the ball away outside the pocket behind the line of scrimmage? He takes so many losses purely because he doesn't just chuck it out of bounds.
Collinsworth is the best color guy  
chris r : 11/27/2014 10:40 pm : link
on TV.
RE: Collinsworth is the best color guy  
spike : 11/27/2014 10:45 pm : link
In comment 12004190 chris r said:
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on TV.


Even though he is anti-Giants, he makes the broadcast interesting
I never noticed he's anti giant  
chris r : 11/27/2014 10:50 pm : link
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RE: I never noticed he's anti giant  
Giants4246 : 11/27/2014 10:53 pm : link
In comment 12004196 chris r said:
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Neither have i
Does seatlle ever not recover one of their fumbles?  
Giants4246 : 11/27/2014 10:54 pm : link
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Colin Kapernick's  
dep026 : 11/27/2014 11:10 pm : link
best throws tonight have been to Sherman.
Just another week of Pathetic QB play in the NFL  
Giants2012 : 11/27/2014 11:10 pm : link
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RE: 9rs suck  
SGMen : 11/27/2014 11:12 pm : link
In comment 12004179 ZogZerg said:
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How did the Giants lose to that team?
Because we suck even more? Honestly, their defense is decent and we played awful on offense.
I love watching Seattle's defense  
Jints in Carolina : 11/27/2014 11:31 pm : link
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Great linebacker play by both teams  
scott in albany : 11/28/2014 7:10 am : link
Too bad the giants don't think thats a priority.
RE: Great linebacker play by both teams  
Les in TO : 11/28/2014 8:26 am : link
In comment 12004258 scott in albany said:
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Too bad the giants don't think thats a priority.


hopefully whoever the new head coach and defensive coordinator of the giants are next year feel differently about the position and are involved in the scouting/signing/drafting of talent.
CGiants07  
old man : 11/28/2014 11:33 am : link
Thanks.
was at this game  
giantgiantfan : 11/28/2014 1:35 pm : link
Nice stadium. Fans are hating on the kap. Lots of why did we get rid of Smith.
Seattle was clearly the better team  
bc4life : 11/28/2014 6:33 pm : link
and the dirtier team. They are the new Eagles. The clipping play when the OL went right at the back of the defenders legs. The play when the 49er defender touched the the downed wr to stop the play, then the Seattle player takes a late cheap shot at the defender. Another OL hits a 49er player late than hides behind another player. They have to be one the dirtiest teams in the league.

One of the main differences in the game last night was the QB play. Wilson just seems to play smarter than Kap.

And of course, Sherman always whining about what the other team or the other team's fans say.
I'm sick if Sherman  
Optimus-NY : 11/29/2014 1:03 am : link
Shut the fuck up already.
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