to evaluate rookies midway through their rookie seasons, but i'll be surprised if bromley winds up a better player than borland based on what we've seen so far, so based on that alone I'd rather have borland.
borland would have without a doubt been playing most likely from day 1, while bromley sits the bench. additionally that would have freed up kennard's pick to be used elsewhere.
but this wasn't reese's pick or him to blame - the giants make their picks with a system.
He was all over the field yesterday from what I saw Â
As I was one of his biggest supporters...but man he's exceeding those expectations. He may lead the NFL in tackles this year, despite starting just half the season!
I wonder if all the fans of the teams that drafted Â
I keyed on him the entire first half. Very good recognition, decent ability to fill an area or "zone" in pass defense, always making the tackle or at least in on it.
My only criticism is that he typically wants to tackle by leaping for the RB's legs. Maybe that was his gameplan against the Beast though...
With a plethora of NFL coaching experience, Vic Fangio is in his fourth season as defensive coordinator of the San Francisco 49ers.
In Fangio’s first three seasons in San Francisco (2011-13), the 49ers are the only team to rank in the top five in the following nine categories: points allowed (16.1 points per game - 1st), rush defense (89.1 yards per game - 1st), rushing average (3.7 yards per carry - 1st), first downs allowed (835 - 1st), opposing quartback rating (76.0 rating - 2nd), yards allowed (306.5 yards per game - 3rd), 20-plus yard plays allowed (147 - 3rd), takeaways (93 - 5th) and third down defense (34.1 pct. - 5th).
Fangio’s defense continued to stymie opponents in 2013 as the 49ers defense ranked third in the NFL in points allowed (272), fourth in opponents quarterback rating (76.4) and rushing yards allowed (1,535), and fifth in total yards allowed (5,071). San Francisco’s defense featured three AP All-Pros (LB NaVorro Bowman - First-Team; LB Ahmad Brooks and DT Justin Smith - Second-Team) and five Pro Bowl selections (Bowman, Brooks, S Eric Reid, Smith and LB Patrick Willis). Reid became the first rookie safety in franchise history to be selected to the Pro Bowl.
In 2012, Fangio led a 49ers defensive unit that ranked second in the NFL in both points allowed (17.1 points per game) and first downs allowed (284), third in total defense (294.4 yards per game), tied for third in third down defense (33.0 pct.) and fourth in both rush defense (94.2 yards per game) and pass defense (200.2 yards per game). San Francisco was one of two teams in the NFL to rank in the top five in all six categories (Denver).
The 49ers defense boasted six AP All-Pro selections in 2012 (First-Team: Bowman, S Dashon Goldson, LB Aldon Smith and Willis; Second-Team: Brooks and Justin Smith) and six Pro Bowl honorees (Bowman, Goldson, Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, S Donte Whitner and Willis).
In 2011, the 49ers defensive unit ranked first in the NFL against the run (77.3 yards per game), tied for first with 38 takeaways and second in points allowed (14.3 points per game). The defense did not allow a rushing touchdown through the first 14 games of the season, setting a new NFL record. The unit allowed just three rushing touchdowns all season, which is the lowest total allowed since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978. The 49ers defense also led the NFC in points allowed (14.3), yards allowed per game (325.9), opposing quarterback rating (73.6), first downs allowed (267) and ranked second in red zone defense (41.2 pct.).
Under Fangio’s direction, the 49ers defense had four players named to the All-Pro team and four selected to the Pro Bowl. Justin Smith became the first player ever to be named First and Second-Team All-Pro at different positions in the same phase of the game (First-Team All-Pro at defensive tackle; Second-Team All-Pro at defensive end). Smith was also selected to his third consecutive Pro Bowl. CB Carlos Rogers, Whitner, Goldson, Aldon Smith, Bowman and Willis joined Justin Smith on the NFC Pro Bowl squad.
Fangio enters his 28th season coaching in the NFL, which includes 15 years of experience as a defensive coordinator for four NFL teams - Carolina (1995-98), Indianapolis Colts (1999-2001), Houston Texans (2002-05) and San Francisco (2011-13). As a defensive coordinator, prior to his stint with San Francisco, Fangio has directed defensive units that have led the NFL or ranked among the top three teams in seven or more major statistical categories.
Fangio was the defensive coordinator for Stanford in 2010, where he led one of the nation’s top defenses. He was unanimously selected as college football’s Defensive Coordinator of the Year by three different media entities.
The Cardinal defense made significant strides under Fangio’s guidance, improving from a 90th ranked unit nationally in 2009 to a defense that ranked in the top-25 nationally in six major defensive categories in 2010. Stanford finished the year ranked 10th in scoring defense (17.4 points/game), 11th in sacks (36), 16th in passing defensive efficiency (112.79), 19th in rushing defense (120.8 yards/game), t-19th in interceptions (18) and 21st in total defense (322.8 yards/game). Within the Pac-10 Conference, the Cardinal improved from 8th to 1st in both scoring defense and sacks, while moving from 9th to 2nd in takeaways and yards allowed. In addition, Stanford posted three Pac-10 shutouts on the year; marking the first time ever the Cardinal had held opponents scoreless in three contests in a single season.
Prior to joining Stanford, Fangio served on the Baltimore Ravens coaching staff from 2006-09 as a special assistant to the head coach and linebackers coach. In his four seasons with Baltimore, the Ravens led the NFL in total defense in 2006, ranked second in 2008 and third in 2009.
Fangio spent the previous four seasons as the defensive coordinator of the Houston Texans (2002-05). His 2002 defense ranked eighth in the AFC overall and fourth in the conference in pass defense. The Texans scored three defensive touchdowns against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field in Week 14 en route to a 24-6 victory.
In 2004, the Texans set a team record and ranked fifth in the NFL with 22 interceptions, five of which were returned for touchdowns. Houston did not allow a touchdown for 13 straight quarters from Week 13 to 16, posting the longest stretch by any team in the league that season.
Fangio served as the defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts from 1999-2001. The Colts posted a 13-3 record in Fangio’s first season after going just 6-26 the previous two years. Indianapolis won its first division title in 15 years, while the Colts defense improved from last to 15th under his guidance. The 2000 Colt defense tallied 42 sacks and made strides in all other statistical categories.
In 1995, Fangio was named defensive coordinator of the expansion Carolina Panthers. The Panthers tied for seventh in total defense and ranked sixth in scoring defense, 10th in rushing defense, fifth in takeaways and second in defensive passer rating in its inaugural season.
In 1996, the Panthers won the NFC West title and reached the NFC Championship game in just their second year of existence. The Panther defense allowed just 218 points on the year, ranking second in the NFL. Carolina also yielded just five touchdowns and 56 points in the second half of games for the entire season, breaking an NFL record set by the 1985 Chicago Bears that still stands today. The Panthers defense also led the NFL in sacks and 3rd down defense. Fangio’s defense featured three All-Pro linebackers in Lamar Lathon, Sam Mills and Kevin Greene.
Fangio spent nine seasons as the linebackers coach of the New Orleans Saints, starting in 1986. In his second year, the Saints advanced to the playoffs for the first time in franchise history and came back the following year to finish with a 10-6 record. Fangio coached the vaunted “Dome Patrol,” which included All-Pro linebackers Rickey Jackson, Pat Swilling, Sam Mills and Vaughan Johnson. The group was the only linebacking unit from one team voted to the Pro Bowl on the first ballot. That group was later voted the best linebacking unit in NFL history by NFL Network.
After attending East Stroudsburg University, Fangio began his coaching career in 1979 as the linebackers coach at his alma mater, Dunmore (PA) High School, and was later promoted to defensive coordinator in 1980. He spent 1982 as the defensive coordinator at Milford (CT.) Academy before landing his first collegiate coaching position at the University of North Carolina, where he served as a graduate assistant in 1983.
Following a one-year stay in Chapel Hill, Fangio spent the 1984 and 1985 seasons as a defensive assistant with the Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars of the USFL, helping the team to back-to-back league titles.
Fangio was inducted into the Northeast Pennsylvania Hall of Fame in 1993. Vic has a son, Christian, and a daughter, Cassie.
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Didn't Lynch step out of one of his tackle attempts? Â
but i do find it curious that with all his success and experience with multiple teams, that he has rarely been a "hot" coaching candidate. Not saying he wouldn't be grat or he isn't worthy, but i find it interesting.
I'm sorry, how many rushing yards did Seattle have against us again? Â
but i do find it curious that with all his success and experience with multiple teams, that he has rarely been a "hot" coaching candidate. Not saying he wouldn't be grat or he isn't worthy, but i find it interesting.
You mean like how Bruce Arians was not a "hot" coaching candidate?
The "hot" name is all it is, a name. Folks run with it and think he is the answer.
Some of the best head coaches in the league right now were not "hot" names when they were hired by the team they are currently employed by. Even Harbaugh had to make his name in the college ranks with Stanford before the NFL started paying attention.
There's no shame at all in having trouble bringing down Lynch. That guy is an absolute beast.
Kid is quick and has very good instincts and is a ROOKIE.
We don't have anything close on this roster.
We are still running Herzlich out there.
to evaluate rookies midway through their rookie seasons, but i'll be surprised if bromley winds up a better player than borland based on what we've seen so far, so based on that alone I'd rather have borland.
borland would have without a doubt been playing most likely from day 1, while bromley sits the bench. additionally that would have freed up kennard's pick to be used elsewhere.
but this wasn't reese's pick or him to blame - the giants make their picks with a system.
...his production has been good especially for a rookie, but part of that success is the system and those playing around him. In my limited view of him, there are times he's coming unblocked to the ball carrier. That's the result of that 3-4 system and those bigs lined up in front of him. Put him in our system with our front four and I'd bet good money that we're not getting 16 solo tackles lol.
Add to that, I don't have confidence that our coaching staff would give him the playing time.
but man, the guy never seems to take a wrong step on the field. knows exactly what his assignment is, gets right to the ball, and does not miss tackles.
borland would have without a doubt been playing most likely from day 1, while bromley sits the bench. additionally that would have freed up kennard's pick to be used elsewhere.
but this wasn't reese's pick or him to blame - the giants make their picks with a system.
My only criticism is that he typically wants to tackle by leaping for the RB's legs. Maybe that was his gameplan against the Beast though...
That's right, he doesn't get to really play until year 3 in our system.
9ers .com - he has a long and diverse resume in football.
HC- Vic Fangio
OC- keep the guy and group we have now...add players
DC's- some of vics people and on down
In Fangio’s first three seasons in San Francisco (2011-13), the 49ers are the only team to rank in the top five in the following nine categories: points allowed (16.1 points per game - 1st), rush defense (89.1 yards per game - 1st), rushing average (3.7 yards per carry - 1st), first downs allowed (835 - 1st), opposing quartback rating (76.0 rating - 2nd), yards allowed (306.5 yards per game - 3rd), 20-plus yard plays allowed (147 - 3rd), takeaways (93 - 5th) and third down defense (34.1 pct. - 5th).
Fangio’s defense continued to stymie opponents in 2013 as the 49ers defense ranked third in the NFL in points allowed (272), fourth in opponents quarterback rating (76.4) and rushing yards allowed (1,535), and fifth in total yards allowed (5,071). San Francisco’s defense featured three AP All-Pros (LB NaVorro Bowman - First-Team; LB Ahmad Brooks and DT Justin Smith - Second-Team) and five Pro Bowl selections (Bowman, Brooks, S Eric Reid, Smith and LB Patrick Willis). Reid became the first rookie safety in franchise history to be selected to the Pro Bowl.
In 2012, Fangio led a 49ers defensive unit that ranked second in the NFL in both points allowed (17.1 points per game) and first downs allowed (284), third in total defense (294.4 yards per game), tied for third in third down defense (33.0 pct.) and fourth in both rush defense (94.2 yards per game) and pass defense (200.2 yards per game). San Francisco was one of two teams in the NFL to rank in the top five in all six categories (Denver).
The 49ers defense boasted six AP All-Pro selections in 2012 (First-Team: Bowman, S Dashon Goldson, LB Aldon Smith and Willis; Second-Team: Brooks and Justin Smith) and six Pro Bowl honorees (Bowman, Goldson, Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, S Donte Whitner and Willis).
In 2011, the 49ers defensive unit ranked first in the NFL against the run (77.3 yards per game), tied for first with 38 takeaways and second in points allowed (14.3 points per game). The defense did not allow a rushing touchdown through the first 14 games of the season, setting a new NFL record. The unit allowed just three rushing touchdowns all season, which is the lowest total allowed since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978. The 49ers defense also led the NFC in points allowed (14.3), yards allowed per game (325.9), opposing quarterback rating (73.6), first downs allowed (267) and ranked second in red zone defense (41.2 pct.).
Under Fangio’s direction, the 49ers defense had four players named to the All-Pro team and four selected to the Pro Bowl. Justin Smith became the first player ever to be named First and Second-Team All-Pro at different positions in the same phase of the game (First-Team All-Pro at defensive tackle; Second-Team All-Pro at defensive end). Smith was also selected to his third consecutive Pro Bowl. CB Carlos Rogers, Whitner, Goldson, Aldon Smith, Bowman and Willis joined Justin Smith on the NFC Pro Bowl squad.
Fangio enters his 28th season coaching in the NFL, which includes 15 years of experience as a defensive coordinator for four NFL teams - Carolina (1995-98), Indianapolis Colts (1999-2001), Houston Texans (2002-05) and San Francisco (2011-13). As a defensive coordinator, prior to his stint with San Francisco, Fangio has directed defensive units that have led the NFL or ranked among the top three teams in seven or more major statistical categories.
Fangio was the defensive coordinator for Stanford in 2010, where he led one of the nation’s top defenses. He was unanimously selected as college football’s Defensive Coordinator of the Year by three different media entities.
The Cardinal defense made significant strides under Fangio’s guidance, improving from a 90th ranked unit nationally in 2009 to a defense that ranked in the top-25 nationally in six major defensive categories in 2010. Stanford finished the year ranked 10th in scoring defense (17.4 points/game), 11th in sacks (36), 16th in passing defensive efficiency (112.79), 19th in rushing defense (120.8 yards/game), t-19th in interceptions (18) and 21st in total defense (322.8 yards/game). Within the Pac-10 Conference, the Cardinal improved from 8th to 1st in both scoring defense and sacks, while moving from 9th to 2nd in takeaways and yards allowed. In addition, Stanford posted three Pac-10 shutouts on the year; marking the first time ever the Cardinal had held opponents scoreless in three contests in a single season.
Prior to joining Stanford, Fangio served on the Baltimore Ravens coaching staff from 2006-09 as a special assistant to the head coach and linebackers coach. In his four seasons with Baltimore, the Ravens led the NFL in total defense in 2006, ranked second in 2008 and third in 2009.
Fangio spent the previous four seasons as the defensive coordinator of the Houston Texans (2002-05). His 2002 defense ranked eighth in the AFC overall and fourth in the conference in pass defense. The Texans scored three defensive touchdowns against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field in Week 14 en route to a 24-6 victory.
In 2004, the Texans set a team record and ranked fifth in the NFL with 22 interceptions, five of which were returned for touchdowns. Houston did not allow a touchdown for 13 straight quarters from Week 13 to 16, posting the longest stretch by any team in the league that season.
Fangio served as the defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts from 1999-2001. The Colts posted a 13-3 record in Fangio’s first season after going just 6-26 the previous two years. Indianapolis won its first division title in 15 years, while the Colts defense improved from last to 15th under his guidance. The 2000 Colt defense tallied 42 sacks and made strides in all other statistical categories.
In 1995, Fangio was named defensive coordinator of the expansion Carolina Panthers. The Panthers tied for seventh in total defense and ranked sixth in scoring defense, 10th in rushing defense, fifth in takeaways and second in defensive passer rating in its inaugural season.
In 1996, the Panthers won the NFC West title and reached the NFC Championship game in just their second year of existence. The Panther defense allowed just 218 points on the year, ranking second in the NFL. Carolina also yielded just five touchdowns and 56 points in the second half of games for the entire season, breaking an NFL record set by the 1985 Chicago Bears that still stands today. The Panthers defense also led the NFL in sacks and 3rd down defense. Fangio’s defense featured three All-Pro linebackers in Lamar Lathon, Sam Mills and Kevin Greene.
Fangio spent nine seasons as the linebackers coach of the New Orleans Saints, starting in 1986. In his second year, the Saints advanced to the playoffs for the first time in franchise history and came back the following year to finish with a 10-6 record. Fangio coached the vaunted “Dome Patrol,” which included All-Pro linebackers Rickey Jackson, Pat Swilling, Sam Mills and Vaughan Johnson. The group was the only linebacking unit from one team voted to the Pro Bowl on the first ballot. That group was later voted the best linebacking unit in NFL history by NFL Network.
After attending East Stroudsburg University, Fangio began his coaching career in 1979 as the linebackers coach at his alma mater, Dunmore (PA) High School, and was later promoted to defensive coordinator in 1980. He spent 1982 as the defensive coordinator at Milford (CT.) Academy before landing his first collegiate coaching position at the University of North Carolina, where he served as a graduate assistant in 1983.
Following a one-year stay in Chapel Hill, Fangio spent the 1984 and 1985 seasons as a defensive assistant with the Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars of the USFL, helping the team to back-to-back league titles.
Fangio was inducted into the Northeast Pennsylvania Hall of Fame in 1993. Vic has a son, Christian, and a daughter, Cassie.
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It may look like a trot to you, but they're running as fast as they can
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Chutzpah posting this non sense considering the slugs that the Giants trot out on Sundays
It may look like a trot to you, but they're running as fast as they can
I laughed but then I cried, I'd bet old farts Carson, Banks and LT would play better than the dregs we "trot" out there
You mean like how Bruce Arians was not a "hot" coaching candidate?
The "hot" name is all it is, a name. Folks run with it and think he is the answer.
Some of the best head coaches in the league right now were not "hot" names when they were hired by the team they are currently employed by. Even Harbaugh had to make his name in the college ranks with Stanford before the NFL started paying attention.
Kid is quick and has very good instincts and is a ROOKIE.
We don't have anything close on this roster.
We are still running Herzlich out there.
borland would have without a doubt been playing most likely from day 1, while bromley sits the bench. additionally that would have freed up kennard's pick to be used elsewhere.
but this wasn't reese's pick or him to blame - the giants make their picks with a system.
I see what you did there!
get off the high horse.
rolls eyes...
Add to that, I don't have confidence that our coaching staff would give him the playing time.
The Giants draft LB's for their measurables only. Football players get picked up as non-drafted free agents only....