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Andrew Luck today was sacked, fumbled

JCin332 : 12/7/2014 2:15 pm
and the Browns recovered in the end zone for a TD..

So apparently this happens to other elite QB's...
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And David, if I'm going to be the president of the Eli club...  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 3:40 pm : link
just make me a copy of your certificate for you Jay Cutler fan club, but scratch out his name and put Eli's name down so I can hang it on my wall.

Dipshit.
RE: Are you and Britt the same guy?  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 3:45 pm : link
In comment 12022193 David in LA said:
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Doesn't Andrew Luck know better than to fumble for a TD?
Britt in VA : 1:49 pm : link : reply
Good QB's don't do that.



Just not sure who I would pick as the chairman of the EDB.


I nominate David in LA as 2nd biggest douchebag on this site after radar..
Someone is sensitive  
David in LA : 12/7/2014 3:46 pm : link
should I rehash your all time gem where you downplayed how good Brees was, which lead to a 62 point beatdown at his hands the ensuing week? Or what about your declaration that McDaniels laid out the 'foundation' for Peyton to come to Denver. You are a joke.
Knowing How To Take a Jab in Stride  
David in LA : 12/7/2014 3:47 pm : link
written by Britt in VA, foreword by JCin332.
RE: Someone is sensitive  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 3:48 pm : link
In comment 12022224 David in LA said:
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should I rehash your all time gem where you downplayed how good Brees was, which lead to a 62 point beatdown at his hands the ensuing week? Or what about your declaration that McDaniels laid out the 'foundation' for Peyton to come to Denver. You are a joke.


You need to get a life or get laid or something dude..life doesn't revolve around you being correct in a discussion on BBI 2 years ago..
Yes, because remembering a comment that stands out for its stupidity  
David in LA : 12/7/2014 3:50 pm : link
means my life revolves around it. Learn to take a fucking joke.
"Grown men having their first menstrual cycles"  
napoleon : 12/7/2014 3:50 pm : link
- authored by all of the above who appear to be on their periods today.
RE: Someone is sensitive  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 3:51 pm : link
In comment 12022224 David in LA said:
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should I rehash your all time gem where you downplayed how good Brees was, which lead to a 62 point beatdown at his hands the ensuing week? Or what about your declaration that McDaniels laid out the 'foundation' for Peyton to come to Denver. You are a joke.


Your opinion of yourself is a joke.

You are the most non original thought, regurgitating ESPN talking head MF'er on this site.

You take other posters original thoughts and add your two sense to them.

Most times, you can't even follow along a thread, and often focus on the thing that nobody is really talking about.

You sir, are a lap dog. Lost without it's master, Dave in DC. Great guy to emulate.
RE: RE: Someone is sensitive  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 3:54 pm : link
In comment 12022237 JCin332 said:
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should I rehash your all time gem where you downplayed how good Brees was, which lead to a 62 point beatdown at his hands the ensuing week? Or what about your declaration that McDaniels laid out the 'foundation' for Peyton to come to Denver. You are a joke.



You need to get a life or get laid or something dude..life doesn't revolve around you being correct in a discussion on BBI 2 years ago..


2 years, try 5 years. It was in 2009, haha.
I'm glad you're handling this well  
David in LA : 12/7/2014 3:56 pm : link
I don't watch much ESPN or read them for their content, but nice try. Keep reaching like Odell in your efforts to defend Eli against any perceived slight.
I'm handling it just fine, thanks.  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 4:00 pm : link
Don't bring me up unless you want a response from me.

My name wasn't on this thread until you put it there.
I add my two sense to other threads  
David in LA : 12/7/2014 4:00 pm : link
because I don't exactly care enough to start one. I'll take my non-original thoughts over getting my panties in a bunch on cue over shit that's not worth crying over.
WTF does this mean..?  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 4:01 pm : link
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Keep reaching like Odell in your efforts to defend Eli against any perceived slight.
RE: WTF does this mean..?  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 4:02 pm : link
In comment 12022286 JCin332 said:
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Keep reaching like Odell in your efforts to defend Eli against any perceived slight.



Exactly. Told you dude's a dummy that can't follow a chain of discussion.
RE: I add my two sense to other threads  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 4:02 pm : link
In comment 12022283 David in LA said:
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because I don't exactly care enough to start one. I'll take my non-original thoughts over getting my panties in a bunch on cue over shit that's not worth crying over.


More like somebody adds one cent, and then you match it to make two.
This back & forth makes no cents  
Overseer : 12/7/2014 4:04 pm : link
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Yup,  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 4:05 pm : link
two sense about sums it up.
You really take stuff said here way too seriously  
David in LA : 12/7/2014 4:05 pm : link
breathe. It's not that serious. If you say something dumb, own it, and laugh it off.
RE: You really take stuff said here way too seriously  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 4:06 pm : link
In comment 12022298 David in LA said:
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breathe. It's not that serious. If you say something dumb, own it, and laugh it off.


Trust me, I am laughing.
Britt my 2 cents is that it's an honor to be  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 4:06 pm : link
compared to you...!! :)
Time to enjoy great weather  
David in LA : 12/7/2014 4:09 pm : link
have a great day Britt. Calm down and stop being so damn sensitive.
Yes, he was, and yes he did.....  
Doomster : 12/7/2014 5:29 pm : link
and yes, he had a fourth quarter comeback, in spite of it....
Luck hangs 30 plus points every week  
djm : 12/7/2014 5:52 pm : link
With an average oline and shit Rbs. Might want to make mention of that the next time you say something stupid.
RE: Luck hangs 30 plus points every week  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 7:45 pm : link
In comment 12022485 djm said:
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With an average oline and shit Rbs. Might want to make mention of that the next time you say something stupid.


Yeah it must be nice to have an average oline..its also nice when your defense makes a stop after you lead your team on a last minute TD drive...

He's a great QB but he doesn't have to be perfect for his team to win..

You should watch more games before you post stupid things..

So what exactly is the point here?  
Sy'56 : 12/7/2014 7:53 pm : link
Someone wanted to point out that the elite QBs in this league make mistakes....so Eli should get a pass when he makes them? Confused...
RE: RE: Luck hangs 30 plus points every week  
jcn56 : 12/7/2014 7:58 pm : link
In comment 12022695 JCin332 said:
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With an average oline and shit Rbs. Might want to make mention of that the next time you say something stupid.



Yeah it must be nice to have an average oline..its also nice when your defense makes a stop after you lead your team on a last minute TD drive...

He's a great QB but he doesn't have to be perfect for his team to win..

You should watch more games before you post stupid things..


They eked out that win against the Browns. For the Colts, Luck does kind of have to be near perfect to win, because they do have a shitty OL and a suspect defense.
There is no debate that Luck is a great QB but today  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 8:04 pm : link
he didn't have a good game with a fumble recovered for a score and a pick 6..

And his suspect defense somehow held the other team to 10 points offensively..

RE: There is no debate that Luck is a great QB but today  
Sy'56 : 12/7/2014 8:06 pm : link
In comment 12022753 JCin332 said:
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he didn't have a good game with a fumble recovered for a score and a pick 6..

And his suspect defense somehow held the other team to 10 points offensively..


What is the point behind the message though? Luck is on a different level. He will make mistakes every year of his career, just like every other QB. Are you stating the obvious? Or is there a deeper point?
and forgot to mention his shitty RB's  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 8:07 pm : link
averaged 4.7 yds a carry today..
RE: There is no debate that Luck is a great QB but today  
jcn56 : 12/7/2014 8:09 pm : link
In comment 12022753 JCin332 said:
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he didn't have a good game with a fumble recovered for a score and a pick 6..

And his suspect defense somehow held the other team to 10 points offensively..


Yeah, and Luck didn't do it against the Jaguars. Whereas Eli and the rest of the offense managed to make them look like a good team.
Luck fumbled four times against the Jaguars actually.  
Riggies : 12/7/2014 8:11 pm : link
I think this whole deal is dumb, but that's not the game/opponent to point to, really, either.
RE: Luck fumbled four times against the Jaguars actually.  
jcn56 : 12/7/2014 8:19 pm : link
In comment 12022775 Riggies said:
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I think this whole deal is dumb, but that's not the game/opponent to point to, really, either.


Yup, and yet somehow managed a passer rating of 140 and threw for 4 TDs (with a 5th easy TD dropped by Fleener).

Oh yeah, and his team won the game easily.
Guess what....  
Doomster : 12/7/2014 8:20 pm : link
This is not an 11 year vet.....this is just his third season, and he will have growing pains as well as come from behind wins......not to mention, he is throwing to Hakeem Nicks.....
RE: Guess what....  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 8:23 pm : link
In comment 12022790 Doomster said:
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This is not an 11 year vet.....this is just his third season, and he will have growing pains as well as come from behind wins......not to mention, he is throwing to Hakeem Nicks.....


You must not have watched the winning drive...he got great plays from Cromartie, Hilton and both TE's..not to mention his RB who had the great spin move to get the 1st down on 4th and 1 from the 6 yard line..
RE: RE: Luck fumbled four times against the Jaguars actually.  
Riggies : 12/7/2014 8:30 pm : link
In comment 12022787 jcn56 said:
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I think this whole deal is dumb, but that's not the game/opponent to point to, really, either.



Yup, and yet somehow managed a passer rating of 140 and threw for 4 TDs (with a 5th easy TD dropped by Fleener).

Oh yeah, and his team won the game easily.


Luck only threw for one TD against the Jags and his passer rating was a tick lower than Eli's against the same team

He did have better fumble recovery luck (Colts recovered 2/4), but still, four fumbles =/= near perfect and his team still crushed them, 23-3.

Again, I think this is overall a dumb exercise, but if you're going to partake, bringing up a common opponent in the Jags isn't the team to do it, at least not on most recent results.
JC what is your point?  
Sy'56 : 12/7/2014 8:32 pm : link
Still not understanding....
RE: JC what is your point?  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 8:37 pm : link
In comment 12022814 Sy'56 said:
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Still not understanding....


Not to speak for JC, but I think his point was that Eli took a ton of shit for fumbling last week after getting crushed during the jailbreak. A common phrase being tossed around was that "good QB's don't do that".

Andrew Luck, universally viewed here as a future HOF'er already by the same people that were tossing that around, did the same thing under similar circumstances today.

Personally, I think any time there's a jailbreak and the QB gets crushed and fumbles, that's more on the O-line. However, people just love to pin everything on Eli regardless of circumstance, so it is interesting when it happens to other QB's that are universally revered here, as well.
but that's just my "two cents"  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 8:38 pm : link
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RE: JC what is your point?  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 8:38 pm : link
In comment 12022814 Sy'56 said:
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Still not understanding....


My point is pretty simple..Luck had the luxury today of having a crappy game yet his team still won..
At least that's why I mentioned it in the game thread...  
Britt in VA : 12/7/2014 8:39 pm : link
as the newly appointed leader of the Eli Defense Brigade.
Who cares  
dep026 : 12/7/2014 8:42 pm : link
Great QBs have shitty games. Luck, Peyton were really off and their teams won. Eli had a shitty ass throw this week and a shitty fumble last week.

One guy doesnt win/lose games nor will they ever.
RE: Who cares  
JCin332 : 12/7/2014 9:01 pm : link
In comment 12022835 dep026 said:
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Great QBs have shitty games. Luck, Peyton were really off and their teams won. Eli had a shitty ass throw this week and a shitty fumble last week.

One guy doesnt win/lose games nor will they ever.


The key phrase is Luck and Peyton can be really off and their teams can still win but Eli doesn't have that luxury..if he's really off the Giants have no chance..
Luck was the most pressure QB in 2013  
mamamia : 12/7/2014 9:16 pm : link
Flacco and Ryan were also top 4 pressured QBs. History shows the good QBs make things happen and make adjustment to make things happen.
RE: RE: JC what is your point?  
Sy'56 : 12/7/2014 9:32 pm : link
In comment 12022826 JCin332 said:
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Still not understanding....



My point is pretty simple..Luck had the luxury today of having a crappy game yet his team still won..


Did you watch the entire game? If you did...you would understand that Luck brought them back. Don't compare Luck and Eli....just don't get in to that
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JCin332 : 12/8/2014 5:02 am : link
In comment 12022944 Sy'56 said:
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Still not understanding....



My point is pretty simple..Luck had the luxury today of having a crappy game yet his team still won..



Did you watch the entire game? If you did...you would understand that Luck brought them back. Don't compare Luck and Eli....just don't get in to that


Actually I would compare Eli's ability to lead his team back with any QB in history..

As far as comparing him to Luck obviously different skill sets but both great QB's..

And while I did not watch the entire Colts game I did watch the last drive..as I said above I saw Luck do what great QB's do..and I saw OL's, WR's, TE's and RB's making plays to help him do it and then of course their defense sealed it at the end..
RE: Who cares  
BrettNYG10 : 12/8/2014 6:44 am : link
In comment 12022835 dep026 said:
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Great QBs have shitty games. Luck, Peyton were really off and their teams won. Eli had a shitty ass throw this week and a shitty fumble last week.

One guy doesnt win/lose games nor will they ever.


This.

And dep would be the leader of the EDB. Sorry, Britt.
Heh,  
dorgan : 12/8/2014 8:12 am : link
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You sir, are a lap dog. Lost without it's master, Dave in DC. Great guy to emulate.


I think the thread, on it's own merits, is kind of silly though I do get the point JC was trying to make.

But the above is as true as anything I've seen written on here lately.
Ankle biters.
I don't like them.

RE: RE: Who cares  
dep026 : 12/8/2014 8:30 am : link
In comment 12023163 BrettNYG10 said:
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Great QBs have shitty games. Luck, Peyton were really off and their teams won. Eli had a shitty ass throw this week and a shitty fumble last week.

One guy doesnt win/lose games nor will they ever.



This.

And dep would be the leader of the EDB. Sorry, Britt.


Entertaining Distinguished Beauty?
....  
BrettNYG10 : 12/8/2014 8:39 am : link
Whatever helps get you through the day, dep....
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dep026 : 12/8/2014 8:49 am : link
In comment 12023242 BrettNYG10 said:
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Whatever helps get you through the day, dep....


That would be some good drugs and knowing my wife will be working when I get home.
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