Odell Beckham Jr - Lawrence Taylor

got to that level in 2011 imo. but i agree, he's a special player that only comes along once in a while

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in an otherwise nightmare season. He's even given the Giants some good press during this tailspin, which is no small task.

I'm hoping we find a guy in round one who has a similar impact on our defense next season.

and his play is a work of art. it is sad that we only have 3 games left.

I started a thread that while it was a horrible moment and not positive for the team one positive view a fan could try and look towards would be that as a result Odell was going to get a bigger opportunity to really step up and show what he could be and that I was looking forward to watching his this "part of Giant history and story unfold".

I don't think anyone quite got what I was saying, and just after the loss of Cruz that is understandable.

But what has happened with Odell since that point is exactly what I was kind of hoping for.

Here was one of my thoughts in that thread and I can't say that I have been disappointed. He is an exciting player to watch for sure.

"Sometimes things just happen. My point is for the Giant fan although not the way you want it to happen this gives us something to watch and look forward to as it unfolds. Hopefully this will be the beginning of a great NY Giant career for the WR and we get the fun of being part of that as a fan. I am looking forward to see how this young man responds to the challenge and the stage he is now playing on.

Just one thing positive to look forward to"

Maybe now a few of you can better understand what I meant, or not (grin)

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at LP Field.

And I gotta tell you, getting to watch OBJ from the all-11 view is something else. The guy is so fluid and smooth, it seemed like everyone was moving 1/2 his speed.

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When Eli was drafted, it was "But, but, but... Robert Gallery."

He was impressive. I started a thread about how fun it was to sit amongst Titan fans at the game and hear all the comments about Odell. The guy is a genuine super star in the making and even the opposing fans couldn't stop talking about him.

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Give him a hand Quickly ascending to NFL superstardom is New York Giants rookie receiver Odell Beckham Jr., whose how-did-he-do-that grabs are ideal highlight-reel fodder. His most memorable catch was straight out of "The Matrix," a one-handed touchdown grab against Dallas on Nov. 23, when he leaped backward, bowed his body, and somehow latched onto the ball. Instantly, this much was clear: Nobody bends it like Beckham Jr. Sunday, he was on display in a 36-7 blowout of Tennessee. In the first half alone, Beckham had nine catches for 117 yards and a touchdown. He finished with 11 catches for 130, his sixth consecutive game with at least 90 yards receiving. He's something for the Giants to be happy about in an otherwise throwaway season.

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OBJ is 7th in the entire NFL in YPG receiving and #1 among rookies.

people gave up on him because he missed the first few weeks of the season with his hamstring injury. i believe the word bust was used.

meanwhile, if he stays healthy, stays on the giants and doesn't folllow the JPP cheeseburger-sanity offseason workout regimen, the sky is the limit.

Not saying that he doesn't look like he has all the physical talent to make it...but I was not pleased with the immaturity he showed in that penalty he got, not to mention his TD dance sucks. Again...I hope to see it frequently, but really. C'mon Man!

I even told someone I was watching the game with that he's like Lawrence Taylor for the offense. Didn't really know why I said it, but I just did, and said it feeling confident that I was right. Probably the reasons you outlined are some of my own too. He's a special talent.

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Not saying that he doesn't look like he has all the physical talent to make it...but I was not pleased with the immaturity he showed in that penalty he got, not to mention his TD dance sucks. Again...I hope to see it frequently, but really. C'mon Man!

Chance that this is an actual, live Giants fan - 0.00%.

In comment 12023988 jcn56 said:

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In comment 12023985 jsuds said: Quote: Not saying that he doesn't look like he has all the physical talent to make it...but I was not pleased with the immaturity he showed in that penalty he got, not to mention his TD dance sucks. Again...I hope to see it frequently, but really. C'mon Man! Chance that this is an actual, live Giants fan - 0.00%.

If its not a real giants fan it is a spot on mocking of one

and that might be an understatement.

The way we are using him. Right now, he is the only threat on the offensive side, and they are still finding every way to get him the ball. You fingers crossed we get a healthy VC back next year at some point and another lineman, and that has the potential to be a very good offense.

kept thinking that was too easy. It's like that out is there anytime they want it. If a CB cheats on it and OBJ turns it upfield, 6 points.

in those last few seasons. Maybe its that I never saw a dominant offensive player on the Giants unlike he peaked.

throwing to him like Rice?

Was a much watch guy during his rookie year. Like Shockey, Beckham is a player you can't wait to see what he does next

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I have to come clean, I was a Gallery guy. I felt Kerry just needed a little more time in the pocket. My bad!!!!

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Chance that this is an actual, live Giants fan - 0.00%.

You are really a great judge of whom the real Giants fans are! I am as real as they get and if I really wanted your opinion I would give it to you!

the broadcast was that OBJ was ambidextrous too.

is in no way the catalyst to this offense, what LT was to the defense...it's not even close....

In comment 12024322 Doomster said:

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is in no way the catalyst to this offense, what LT was to the defense...it's not even close....

It is close. And yes he is.

Yes, but realize Zach Martin is probably a pro bowler this year too.

Returning Punts on a 4 win team...

I get a Pro Bowl Guard would be sweet, but I never went out of my way to make sure I saw John Hannah block

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In comment 12023988 jcn56 said: Quote: Chance that this is an actual, live Giants fan - 0.00%. You are really a great judge of whom the real Giants fans are! I am as real as they get and if I really wanted your opinion I would give it to you!

But if you really followed the team, you'd know that it's not penalties and immaturity that jeopardize OBJ's career. It's the fact that he plays WR for the Giants that does.

Our recent history with young, promising WR's should scare the shit out of every fiber in OBJ's body.

I used to find LT before the snap and watch the fun happen. To this day I find I watch the pass rush all the time because of LT. OBJ is having that same effect on me. Credit to McAdoo he has him lining up all over the place. He could be a an all time great Giant when his career is over......15 years from now : )

In comment 12024336 billyboy26 said:

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Yes, but realize Zach Martin is probably a pro bowler this year too.

Guards are a dime a dozen.

OBJ's come alone once a decade.

I would like to start a poll who would STILL pick Martin over OBJ. Gotta still be a few dummies out there.

when we're calling for certain picks in the draft. Yes, we badly needed a guard however the value of a top-notch WR is higher than the guard position. (all things being equal)

IOW, you can do more damage with a stud WR vs an average WR as opposed to a stud guard vs an average guard.

In comment 12024351 santacruzom said:

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But if you really followed the team, you'd know that it's not penalties and immaturity that jeopardize OBJ's career. It's the fact that he plays WR for the Giants that does. Our recent history with young, promising WR's should scare the shit out of every fiber in OBJ's body.

I actually didn't say anything about his career being in jeopardy; I just didn't like his dumb penalty. The Giants seem to have plenty of players doing that without Beckham adding himself to the mix. I also worry that he is going to believe all the hype he is reading about himself and lose focus on his real purpose...being a catalyst for bringing Eli his third Championship.

watching them, other than LT, Beckham is the best Giants rookie I have ever seen. You want Eli to get the ball to him on every play.

Love what I see from Odell, and I also look for him when the O lines up.

However, LT was, in my 45 years of watching football, the best player I've ever seen. He could destroy entire offenses; teams had to know where he was at every moment not only because he could make a play, but because he could cause serious injury.

Team's did not only game play for LT, they were deathly afraid of him.

Both Martin & Beckham look like they're going to have great, great careers. I'm completely content with OBJ.

is that LT has had a great career.

In spite of the fact that today's game is made for OBJ, he will still have a very difficult time. Keep his athletic ability in top form through hits and injuries will be unbelievably hard. To be comparable to LT he will have to put together at least ten years going foward (injuries prevent this one from being dominant). And that will include at least one QB change. If it requires more than one - which is very likely - his oppotunities will suffer.

it's a toss up between watching Beckham on every play or watching Zack Martin help his center with a nifty run block. Very close...

I think the edge goes to watching Beckham though.

In comment 12024125 crick78 said:

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Was a much watch guy during his rookie year. Like Shockey, Beckham is a player you can't wait to see what he does next

This. Its amazing how many Giants fans are s quick to forget just how great Shockey was. Too bad the injuries did him in. I remember the time when the only reason Jason Witten went to the Pro Bowl was because he was the injury replacement for Shockey. Beckham is the first Giants player since Shockey to be a guy you had to see. (Actually, I take that back, Nicks and Cruz were those kind of guys too, at times).