For years I watched this team start out well and proceed to play themselves out of the playoffs. And each time it happened, I heard Couglin say that his players failed to finish, despite the fact that he preached "finish" ad nauseum, as if he were the brilliant coach and his players were dense for not listening to him. This year, he's gone one better, taking leads into the second half and watching his team blow it, and after the game telling us that his team failed to finish, despite the fact that he screamed it to the high heavens. In other words, once again, he's the brilliant coach and his players are dumb for not listening to him. But any a-hole coach can tell his team to finish. It's the coach's job to get his team to finish.
Coughlin also seems incapable of hiring competent assistants or firing bad ones. He hired Spagnolo in 2007 only because ownership forced to fire Tim Lewis. I also remain convinced that he hired McAdoo because ownership (Mara) told him that McAdoo's offense, unlike Gilbride's, is quick hitting and doesn't require an inept offensive line to hold their blocks for three seconds. Rather than lose his own job, Coughlin fired Gilbride and forced Gilbride to say that his wife wanted him to quit. I'm not saying McAdoo is an improvement. Merely saying that I don't think McAdoo was Coughlin's idea. As for failing to fire incompetent coaches, he refuses to replace Fewell and Quinn.
I also fault Coughlin for not telling Reese that letting Martellus Bennett walk in 2013 and bringing in Myers was a recipe for disaster. Last year's 0-6 start was proof. With Bennett, the Giants start 3-3 and finish 10-6 at a minimum. Did Coughlin not see that?
Sure, I can think of worse coaches in the league. And I'm not forgetting the two Super Bowls, but did Coughlin win them or did Spagnolo's defense (Strahan, Osi, Tuck, Kiwi, Pierce, Wilson) win in 2007 and Gilbride's offense (Bradshaw, Jacobs, Ware, Nicks, Manningham, Ballard, McKenzie, Diehl, Snee) win in 2011?
A coach who cannot get his team to play well on a consistent basis and is not able to attract competent assistants should be let go. Do I have a replacement in mind? No, I don't. Do I want "anybody but Coughlin"? Certainly not. I'm just tired of watching this team "fail to finish" and listening to Coughlin's post game analyses, telling us why his team loses (they don't finish, they turn the ball over, they miss assignments), as if he were a post-game commentator instead of the guy responsible.
Two super bowls, for which I am grateful. But if anyone were to peek at his record outside of those two playoff runs, its very poor.
I have absolutely no idea about the nuances of the Giants decision-making process when it comes to specific FA signings or draft choices. If Coughlin plays such a large role in calling the shots, then what the hell does Reese and everyone else do?
Worse is thinking that they will keep the TC system and hire a stooge to run it like Dallas did with Switzer and those other guys living off what Johnson built.
Don't give Reese all the blame for the roster when Coughlin is the guy deciding who stays, who goes and who plays.
Well said! We should have just gone without a RT when Pugh went down? What's the worst that could happen? Otherwise, Eli gets KILLED!
It is almost always talked about in an overly simplistic way with no nuance whatsoever, e.g., "every team has injuries." Really? Who would've thunk? So I guess there is no difference at all between losing a player like Peyton Manning versus losing a player like Mathias Kiwanuka?
FIRE COCKLIN!!!!11!!!
They haven't quit on TC.
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But Tom Coughlin is not a savior. He may not be faulted for the final decisions in the draft but does anyone here really believe that he has not had major input into these drafts? Does anyone really believe that the Giants sign free agents without his input? Does anyone think that he has no control over who his assistants are and the gameplans? If you do, on what basis and why is he still the head coach? What exactly is his job then?
I have absolutely no idea about the nuances of the Giants decision-making process when it comes to specific FA signings or draft choices. If Coughlin plays such a large role in calling the shots, then what the hell does Reese and everyone else do?
Just think about it for a second. I am not even expecting you to read the countless articles each year during free agency and the draft where the coaches and Reese discuss their joint involvement. Reese has the final say--clearly on all money issues. But even forgetting the free agents and the draft, do you think that Reese picks the assistants? Do you think that Reese prepares the gameplans? Do you think that Reese decides who to keep, who to cut, who to play and where? Did Reese force Coughlin to hold onto aging offensive linemen who were overpriced? Listen all I have ever said here is that if we are going to play the blame game it is ridiculous to point at everyone else but the Head Coach. It's a team and what happened in terms of blaming all failures on his assistants over the years and to Reese for picking players and now to the players for not playing hard is nothing short of a disgrace. Funny thing is I doubt that Tom Coughlin, a very standup guy, would disagree that he is responsible for the failures as well as the successes.
Bahahahahaha. One of the funniest things in the entire history of this board. Close behind is Spock thinking there is still dinosaur life somewhere in Africa.
No, of course, that aren't many 2-time superbowl winning coaches looking for a job. But a past champion may not be what Giants need to get this ship right-sized. Plenty of talented, smart and hungry coaching candidates out there that have won at many levels and are looking for the opportunity.
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Bravo..
Give little micky his balloon. He lives to win threads on BBI. He has no other life. And apparently, neither do you.
What you said about the wind and Eli is undisputable..
And as far as your comments about micky you can go fuck yourself..
No, of course, that aren't many 2-time superbowl winning coaches looking for a job. But a past champion may not be what Giants need to get this ship right-sized. Plenty of talented, smart and hungry coaching candidates out there that have won at many levels and are looking for the opportunity.
I assume that the people who want TC gone think it is extremely unlikely (or even impossible) that he can right the ship and make another run. If they didn't think that, then what would be the point in letting him go? I don't know how to evaluate whether or not TC could possibly have one or more runs left, but I hope that the organization does.
I can name at least 3 coaches in the HOF that the Giants had.
Two of them the Mara's let walk - Tom & Ernie.
Then Bill B. and I can't remember the coach that was just inducted.
There are people on here who believe that Coughlin can walk on water. Claim they've seen him.