mind numbing that we still get sucked on on QB keeper plays, and can't defend either a screen or bootleg. McCoy basically ended that drive with a crappy throw.
Moore is the type of player you need to get on the field and absolutely know what you have. It shocks me Osi was allowed to be a full time pass rusher in this defense and Moore cannot get on the field outside of passing downs.
Do we finally realize that since we're out of it, no reason to stay conservative. Use this like a laboratory session, open things up, and experiment with some new wrinkles.
He was supposed to pick up the RB on the backfield instead he does some late blitz and gets nothing accomplished. He has been run over a few times as well including by McCoy.
ya'll can't even beat a guy who hasn't played most of the season and he throws it all over your pathetic defense. Ya'll are an embarrassment to my territory (north jersey)...go suck one! Lol Hows that mentally handicapped player Demantre Moore holding up for you?
He flashes, but it's true. You can't say good awareness. You can't say he has amazing speed. He has good height. You can't say he has great hands or runs very good routes like OBJ does. What does he do well? He is just another guy in this offense.
really says something very negative about Randle that he has apparently been passed by Ogletree on the depth chart. Randle has been here several years, and was a #2 draft pick. Ogletree was a journeyman picked up midseason that nobody wanted.
are dominating the LOS, at least on offense. Aside from one drive off the KR by Parker, we have shown no ability to move the ball. No running game, and bad play calling.
Our guys need to get separation and hold on to the ball. Â
It would be nice if we ran something other than a fucking curl and hitch. Their secondary sucks, and we are trying to nickel and dime them with curls and hitches.
Our TEs are useless in the passing game once again. What shitty talent we have on offense.
This many wide open receivers, are the giants playing with ten on D?
It is crazy how open these guys are. And then having to listen to these idiots on TV sucking RG3's knob because he can throw a ball 12 yards to a WR with no one around him
but this coverage is fucking ghastly. Fewell desperately needs to be shitcanned.
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
Because he can still coach. So you do what the Steelers did with Cowher, and get rid of coordinators until you have a Cowher-LeBeau-Whisenhunt trio that leads to a SB win.
Keep TC, and work on the coordinator and position coaches.
To me TC and the staff shouldn't come back when teams like the Skins can look so good against us for a half, or when the Jags can turn things around in another half.
Bob get some highlight time this evening. Fucking defense. I had a feeling their best series of events was McCoy getting hurt so that Bob could come in.
but this coverage is fucking ghastly. Fewell desperately needs to be shitcanned.
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
Because he can still coach. So you do what the Steelers did with Cowher, and get rid of coordinators until you have a Cowher-LeBeau-Whisenhunt trio that leads to a SB win.
Keep TC, and work on the coordinator and position coaches.
Anish, respect you a lot, but how do you know TC can still coach? I could say he can't with the same amount of evidence. Maybe more, after these past two seasons.
I don't see another win this year. Rams will absolutely kick our ass and Eagles will need that game too and will embarrass us again to end our season on the lowest of notes!
I don't see another win this year. Rams will absolutely kick our ass and Eagles will need that game too and will embarrass us again to end our season on the lowest of notes!
That's fine - we're not heading to the playoffs, so who the hell cares. Get a better draft pick with a softer schedule and hope next year treats us better.
but this coverage is fucking ghastly. Fewell desperately needs to be shitcanned.
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
Because he can still coach. So you do what the Steelers did with Cowher, and get rid of coordinators until you have a Cowher-LeBeau-Whisenhunt trio that leads to a SB win.
Keep TC, and work on the coordinator and position coaches.
Anish, respect you a lot, but how do you know TC can still coach? I could say he can't with the same amount of evidence. Maybe more, after these past two seasons.
Because he didn't lose the team. They are playing for him. You have to evaluate and see if TC has control of the team. Surely, he didn't forget how to coach.
The knock on TC which I can't stand is his shitty coordinators he hired. But he can coach a team, and is going to be a HOF coach. So you keep the HC, and force a change at DC and the position coaches as well.
Maybe we do well with a new trio, TC-Ben M- ???
But TC can coach you just need better players and scheme defensively.
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but this coverage is fucking ghastly. Fewell desperately needs to be shitcanned.
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
Because he can still coach. So you do what the Steelers did with Cowher, and get rid of coordinators until you have a Cowher-LeBeau-Whisenhunt trio that leads to a SB win.
Keep TC, and work on the coordinator and position coaches.
Anish, respect you a lot, but how do you know TC can still coach? I could say he can't with the same amount of evidence. Maybe more, after these past two seasons.
It's not an endorsement of TC coming back on my part, it is resignation toward its seeming inevitability.
but he doesn't run. Yes his brother andBrady are also pocket passers. Be that as it may, we are stuck with a non runner when more and more the QB's in the league can run. There is simplay a big disad vantage for as long as Eli is our QB.
but he hasn't learned anything new. You have to evolve with the times and keep learning. It's strange, TC wins us a lot of games as head coach, but he also loses us a lot of games...maybe that's why we hover around .500 overall.
that is absolutley a touchdown Moss is right that ref is a clown
I thought so also but per the rules that was actually the correct call. He loses control of the ball prior to crossing AFTER being hit by a Giant, and then drops it out of his hands when he lands. It actually was an excellent call by the officials
Why do we take him off the field? He's a better blitzer AND cover guy then McClain. McClain has been worse then awful in this game. Kennard may be our best pass rusher right now let alone the best player in our front 7.
but he hasn't learned anything new. You have to evolve with the times and keep learning. It's strange, TC wins us a lot of games as head coach, but he also loses us a lot of games...maybe that's why we hover around .500 overall.
I don't see another win this year. Rams will absolutely kick our ass and Eagles will need that game too and will embarrass us again to end our season on the lowest of notes!
That's fine - we're not heading to the playoffs, so who the hell cares. Get a better draft pick with a softer schedule and hope next year treats us better.
jcn56, draft picks won't mean shit if the schemes and undisciplined play remain. Fewell has to go with most of his staff too. Offense is a work in progress, but I'm not sold on some of the assistants we retained, such as Flaherty, Ryan and Gilbride jr.
for the OL. You know you have a pocket passer, and you let the god damn OL degrade to the point it is god awful. WHat's worse is that with Gilbride we ran a 5 and 7 step drop offense with a shitty ass OL.
Redskins 266 yards to 95 for Giants. How do you allow a multiple 20+ yard completions in a prevent defense? How do you run the exact same 3rd/4th down play twice behind an inferior line?
This game proves the Titans are the worst team in football and we are a close second...
but he hasn't learned anything new. You have to evolve with the times and keep learning. It's strange, TC wins us a lot of games as head coach, but he also loses us a lot of games...maybe that's why we hover around .500 overall.
Our playbook is two pages long.
Ben M. said he would tailor the offense towards the talent. WHat did you expect with this shitty talent on offense? 600 page playbook with fucking RR, Parker, and no namers at TE?
Outside of Rogers and Luck, no QB does both well. I would take a good pocket guy (like Eli, Peyton, Brady, Ryan, Brees, Big Ben, Rivers, etc.) over the scramblers (Wilson, Cam, Kaepernick, RG3) any day of the week. Look who wins most of the Super Bowls. In my book, if you can't throw like a QB you can't play QB. The running wild stuff (think Vince Young at Texas), works in the NCAA but not the NFL.
To ever get his teams up for mediocre opponents. Our offense is freakin conservative. Receivers can't get separation. Our defense when blitzing can't get home. Linebackers are no where to be found. Receivers are wide open in our secondary.
that is absolutley a touchdown Moss is right that ref is a clown
I thought so also but per the rules that was actually the correct call. He loses control of the ball prior to crossing AFTER being hit by a Giant, and then drops it out of his hands when he lands. It actually was an excellent call by the officials
How many times do you call pressures and leave guys wide open where there is no one within twenty yards of him. And why on Gods green earth do you take your best linebacker off the field for I don't know how many plays after he nearly intercepts a pick six.
for a half yard. Surely we could have thought of something more imaginative. It feels like we are getting too cautious, afraid to lose. Whicch is why we may lose.
for a half yard. Surely we could have thought of something more imaginative. It feels like we are getting too cautious, afraid to lose. Whicch is why we may lose.
Can't win. If he does something more imaginative and doesn't make it, you say "why not just run the FB up the middle?"
And playing press man under 2 has surprised the Giants offense. It's tough to beat with 1 viable WR and no run game.
It's a situation like Indy where they should be using more bunch formations, switches and crosses, but it's just not something they do to help their WR's
for a half yard. Surely we could have thought of something more imaginative. It feels like we are getting too cautious, afraid to lose. Whicch is why we may lose.
aren't getting much pressure. Easily sucked in. Blown assignments. And no real offense. No running game, and in the passing game, it's Beckham or nothing. I'd like to see more of Washington, but then I've been saying that for weeks.
If I worked for a company and did not rich my goals 5 out of 6 years I'd be fired. It's that simple. How many excuses are we going to come up with. It's time to change. Look how bad they are playing against a crap team.
I'm sick of hearing RR sucks the guy is running one route game after game and its not a good route for him. Just once try a double move out of the come back let's see what happens then. As for those people who say Eli looks good this is his type of game that makes it sure he is just an average QB.
He's also leading the league with 13 dropped INTs and in fumbles with 13.
He's a freak QB talent, having a very good season, but he's got to start to get his carelessness under control because his luck (no pun intended) is likely going to normalize soon.
to a guy who fucks up on depths of his routes, on a damn square in, in the middle of the damn field. I am surprised that wasn't deflected and picked off.
Redskins are dropping a lot of guys back into coverage, confident that the can shut down our run game with just four or five. That and only having one real WR is killing us. No halftime adjustments again.
to a guy who fucks up on depths of his routes, on a damn square in, in the middle of the damn field. I am surprised that wasn't deflected and picked off.
those types of deflections usually do end up being picked off...for Eli. Not so much the other QBs in the league.
you are really seeing how awful our skilled guys are. eli has had all day on a lot of these throws and no one gets open against a shit secondary. RR has 2 drops already. Parker almost caused an INT on a poor route.
Doesnt matter if you have all day if no one gets open.
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throw by Eli. He was lucky it wasn't picked. He's getting time to throw, but nobody is getting open except Beckham. Against a putrid Redskins secondary that everybody else in the league is torching.
If I worked for a company and did not rich my goals 5 out of 6 years I'd be fired. It's that simple. How many excuses are we going to come up with. It's time to change. Look how bad they are playing against a crap team.
You work somewhere that has goals set 31-1 against?
show redskins coaches, I think what must be going through their heads.
What did I take this fucking job? They look so defeated and now in control of anything.
I don't understand how they attract supposed attractive candidates like Shanahan or Gruden.
I guess money is one. The chance to build up a shitty franchise. With Gruden and Spags, maybe you never get a chance ever again so you take the first chance to be HC and go from there.
I don't know, I think that plays a part. You never know when you get that shot. Look at Bruce Arians. The guy was basically about to retire, and worked, got promoted and now is a HC.
Reese got asked by shitty franchises to be GM or interview. I think the Jets asked and he declined. So smart move by him.
What Eli is seeing sometimes. Just holding the ball. When the RB is just sitting there
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
Bullshit. Moose said the same thing. Drop it to the RB there.
The way I saw it, Eli was going to throw it to him, but Andre wasn't ready for the ball as he wasn't even turning around to look for the ball, so Eli decided to look elsewhere.
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In a 10-10 game? No, it's not going to be his time unless Eli can't go or we are up by 129038192 points. Nassib is where he should be, standing, and watching.
100 yards of offense against the Redskins. Pathetic.
Why should they? Did you expect in year one with shitty offensive talen to actually be good? I am surprised Eli is having a good year and not having even worse stats than last season. That to me, is fucking great.
How the hell do you put up good numbers with no OL and a supporting caste that includes 3 people out of football last season, in Walton, Fells, and Parker? Add the lose of Cruz, and it's amazing.
What Eli is seeing sometimes. Just holding the ball. When the RB is just sitting there
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
Bullshit. Moose said the same thing. Drop it to the RB there.
Yeah because Moose said it, its fact. Moose was wrong on that play and if you put your anti-eli glasses down and rewatch it you will see the DE, a LB and the slot DB all move towards Williams when Eli looked that way. At best it would have been a pass for 1 yard, at worse an Int
You can really watch this and think that? Our OL can't block from here to there on running plays. We have 1 skill position player opposing teams worry about, and this is your point?
On D......too slow. LBers need upgrading once and for all. Need safety help and Dline help. Ton of work to do there in off-season. Almost as bad as offense last year.
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100 yards of offense against the Redskins. Pathetic.
Why should they? Did you expect in year one with shitty offensive talen to actually be good? I am surprised Eli is having a good year and not having even worse stats than last season. That to me, is fucking great.
How the hell do you put up good numbers with no OL and a supporting caste that includes 3 people out of football last season, in Walton, Fells, and Parker? Add the lose of Cruz, and it's amazing.
Ben M. has nothing to work with.
This is professional football. A full time year round business. The first year of the offense excuse, is just that an excuse. These guys have been playing football their entire lives. I assume you played, as did I. It's not brain surgery. With a supposed possible HOF QB alone we should put up more than 100 yards of offense against the Redskins at this point.
From this offense , we can't run so hello defense we are still going to establish the run on first down by running up the middle for one yard leaving us in second and nine!
100 yards of offense against the Redskins. Pathetic.
Why should they? Did you expect in year one with shitty offensive talen to actually be good? I am surprised Eli is having a good year and not having even worse stats than last season. That to me, is fucking great.
How the hell do you put up good numbers with no OL and a supporting caste that includes 3 people out of football last season, in Walton, Fells, and Parker? Add the lose of Cruz, and it's amazing.
Ben M. has nothing to work with.
This is professional football. A full time year round business. The first year of the offense excuse, is just that an excuse. These guys have been playing football their entire lives. I assume you played, as did I. It's not brain surgery. With a supposed possible HOF QB alone we should put up more than 100 yards of offense against the Redskins at this point.
No, it's a reality. It takes time to teach what you need to the players, especially a team that is used to a completely different system. That's just easy to evaluate having coached. It's a completely different fucking system where you need to change everything, from routes, play calling, tempo, QB foot work. Far from an excuse. That's the reality of the situation and what you try to work on daily.
What do you want the fucking QB to do? We run curls and hitches and comebacks with a defender all over our WRs. Look at the Wrs getting open against our defense. They are getting separation, we are not! I don't know what you want in year 1. I knew this year would be an offense which would streaky. Completely new system with shitty ass talent. So this first year is par with my expectations. WHat I failed to see was Elis stats. I thought he would be equal to last year. I would never have guessed in year 1 he could put up these numbers.
has for the most part had time to throw. Nobody is getting open besides Beckham, assuming he isn't being mugged by Breeland. That means it's either on the receivers or the OL for not creating any holes for the running game.
has for the most part had time to throw. Nobody is getting open besides Beckham, assuming he isn't being mugged by Breeland. That means it's either on the receivers or the OL for not creating any holes for the running game.
When Kevin Ogletree is your second best receiver . . .
OBJ splits 2 defenders, and this guy hit and right down.
that was a good catch between 3 defenders coming back for the ball. Randle deserves some of the criticism he gets but complaining about that catch is over the top.
Pugh has got to get his hands tighter inside. You can grab jersey all day, but it needs to be inside. Whether its the short arms or hand strength, he does it a lot and surprised he's not called more.
OBJ splits 2 defenders, and this guy hit and right down.
that was a good catch between 3 defenders coming back for the ball. Randle deserves some of the criticism he gets but complaining about that catch is over the top.
returned for holding, this is not different. It was a hold, and TDs are not rewarded by holding. NFL does not like to screw around with the gambling world.
this is the same REF that won the game for the Packers back in 2011 (regular season game at Giants stadium / Met Life).
Yes, and holding calls are one way that NFL officials indirectly influence games for whatever purpose they have, whether it is ratings, keeping audience glued to tv, or playoff matchups.
One thing about Coughlin that irks me. Your special teams is brutal. He's our prized possession and he's doing punt returns in meaningless games and already missed part of the season due to injury.
With how this team is, there's going to be a brutal fumble or INT on Â
Moore made to really good back side pursuit plays on that drive. That is exactly the kind of play that will get him more burn. I still completely question not having JPP as the LDE, but Moore is playing like one this game. We've just been spoiled at that position for years. We had hall of fame level play there for a good part of the last 15 years.
McAdoo has his moments along with a few brain farts
Come on TC had to have signed off on that 4th down play, they even had the timeout to talk it over.
Sure... Just named McAdoo because he's the play caller. In that situation Giants should have kicked the FG to make it a 7 point game IMO. Not excusing TC either
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Beckham is the only plus player we have on the field and they cannot contain him. The skins are not bad at any level of defense and Beckham is crushing them.
They know it's coming and just cannot stop him. He's the most talented offensive player I have ever seen in a NYG uniform and it's really not close.
We've had some pretty good ones like Tiki, Plaxico, Shockey, Bavaro, but none like this kid......he's special. For all of Reese's failings, he really hit it with this pick .
look what happens when the offensive line has to take into account another threat on the opposite end of the D-line....holy shit...it took an "injury" to figure this out?
They know it's coming and just cannot stop him. He's the most talented offensive player I have ever seen in a NYG uniform and it's really not close.
Who do you think brought more excitement, Shockey his rookie year or OBJ? I can remember being hyped that Shockey was doing some great things. That colts game where he ran over the defender was just plain sick.
Why are guys still calling him out when we have no idea if he will be ready next year. Sure hope they do the same thing at the WR position they did at the RB position this year.
JPP has reemerged over the last 4-5 games as Coughlin and Fewell have finally relented and let the young players on the field...we are finally back to what we have seen back in 2011...the Giants are back to 7-8 deep on the DL benefiting the team with fresh DL play
JPP has reemerged over the last 4-5 games as Coughlin and Fewell have finally relented and let the young players on the field...we are finally back to what we have seen back in 2011...the Giants are back to 7-8 deep on the DL benefiting the team with fresh DL play
and Santa is real
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He is a weapon and you win by using your weapons. With that said it made no sense having him do it with 10 secs left in a game you already have won. That is asking for trouble
He is a weapon and you win by using your weapons. With that said it made no sense having him do it with 10 secs left in a game you already have won. That is asking for trouble
Why don't other teams have their star players returning punts?
Because none of them have as great a coach as Coughlin, who is able to see the path to victory?
And, yeah, wins are really important right now--if you are trying to save your job. Which is exactly what Coughlin is doing: risking the health of his best young player in order to save his job.
And please spare me the outraged responses that Coughlin would never do that. He is doing that.
He is a weapon and you win by using your weapons. With that said it made no sense having him do it with 10 secs left in a game you already have won. That is asking for trouble
Why don't other teams have their star players returning punts?
Because none of them have as great a coach as Coughlin, who is able to see the path to victory?
And, yeah, wins are really important right now--if you are trying to save your job. Which is exactly what Coughlin is doing: risking the health of his best young player in order to save his job.
And please spare me the outraged responses that Coughlin would never do that. He is doing that.
Huh? Coughlin is doing what he does every game. Trying to win. That's what they pay him to do and if he's doing anything less THEN he should be fired.
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Lol- oh yeah, LT sat at 4.5 sacks until almost December. Great comparison and JPP was really outstanding besides the cellar dwellars the Giants have faced over the past 3 games.
19 sacks.......last 3 games, since the insertion of some of the younger, faster, more athletic guys, 21 sacks.
You can consider the source of competition all you want, that number is overwhelming and indicative that these guys playing very well.
A huge upgrade of where they were.
Lol - oh yeah, if this bunch wasn't playing three straight awful QB's who play behind three awful OL's of teams picking in the top 5 of the upcoming draft, the stats would be better too lol.
He is a weapon and you win by using your weapons. With that said it made no sense having him do it with 10 secs left in a game you already have won. That is asking for trouble
Why don't other teams have their star players returning punts?
Because none of them have as great a coach as Coughlin, who is able to see the path to victory?
And, yeah, wins are really important right now--if you are trying to save your job. Which is exactly what Coughlin is doing: risking the health of his best young player in order to save his job.
And please spare me the outraged responses that Coughlin would never do that. He is doing that.
That is a completely ridiculous statement. There is nothing about Coughlin that would even remotely make a rational person with half a brain to think he's putting Beckham back there to save his job.
Wtf
Salt in the wound
Mmmkay...
The Redskins started this drive inside their own five.
Agreed. Randle is going the way of Hosley.
- Fewell
What defense?! Might as well have nobody out there. We give 0 resistance!
We he won't get injured atleast
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Two sacks last week doesn't impress the coaches to start Moore
We he won't get injured atleast
It's coughlin.
Playing time is earned. See Odell Beckam.
No he shouldn't. He should just stick to special teams, and that's assuming we can't get no one better.
You are correct.
But he's not playing today.
Yup, that's his game!
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a headhunting POS
You are correct.
But he's not playing today.
i'm watching on PC, who did the helmet?
Aside from physical gifts he comedies like none other
Good chance, this kid is going to help earn them a reprieve.
I don't think he can, he's a shitty dancer, lol.
He's still single. Good grip strength. Not like Eli.
He played himself right into coughlins doghouse
It's Triplette. Pretty much the worst of the worst.
Expect a few gamechanging calls or non calls.
Even after Rolls alerts him too.
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Our DEs, particularly JPP, launch themselves inside and leave the team open to the run option and reverses.
Even after Rolls alerts him too.
Frustrating to see the same plays beat us the whole year, without anyone learning to change their approach.
I think his problems are assignments and run defense.
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Our DEs, particularly JPP, launch themselves inside and leave the team open to the run option and reverses.
Even after Rolls alerts him too.
Another reason not to give JPP a monster contract. The constant crashing down inside is on the players, not the coaches.
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Moore is constantly getting pressure, not sure why it took so longto play him
He still looks better than all the other DEs that have been playing
I think his problems are assignments and run defense.
You would hope someone would point that out to refs.
Sho,
I agree. Our skill players aren't good except for OBJ, obviously. We need an upgrade there and OL.
Yes, that penalty will surely be the reason we lose.
Its fucking depressing.
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Classic
Suck or poorly coached?
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if you don't think we need help at WR, you're crazy.
Suck or poorly coached?
Suck
No one plays well in space.
No one plays well in space.
Dude just shut up if you're just going to throw players under the bus who aren't even active.
- ESPN
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HACKENSACK NATION, STAND UP!!! WHO MAD? WHO WHO MAD? HAHA Giants suck!
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if you don't think we need help at WR, you're crazy.
Suck or poorly coached?
Are you saying Beckam and Randle get their coaching from different people?
enjoy the game of the WEAK!!!
Beckhum.
Breeland.
Boneheaded players on both teams.
-every spoiled NY Giants fan everywhere
Oh look, the Redskin caught the ball inside his 10. Awesome football.
Because stl and phi are better teams than was too. At least we know where we stand
-black grampa on commercial
He flashes, but it's true. You can't say good awareness. You can't say he has amazing speed. He has good height. You can't say he has great hands or runs very good routes like OBJ does. What does he do well? He is just another guy in this offense.
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trueblue...especially when they have conversations with themselves.
One in here now really desperate for some attention lol
bitch made
Yea and your whole organization is a FUCKIN DISGRACE!!!!
bitch made
are you the idiot in Hackensack who crowed prior to week 5 and then crawled away?
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bitch made
Yea and your whole organization is a FUCKIN DISGRACE!!!!
and you had to be the one....
I will admit, this was a creative handle....kind of. Power to the players!
we are showing nothing on offense or defense. Absolute disgrace against one of the bad teams in the league.
I'm sure the three announcers will update us!
Want to think about something for a sec? Think about what this offense would be without OBJ.
Morris only had 6 yards last week. 47 already today.
Jenkins looked like he over ran the play. How do you miss Morris?!
Our TEs are useless in the passing game once again. What shitty talent we have on offense.
Don't feed the trolls boys.
one guy got his first career reception and TD...the other guy is some dude named Silas Redd.
I wish we could get separation like that with our skill players.
Pathetic!
It is crazy how open these guys are. And then having to listen to these idiots on TV sucking RG3's knob because he can throw a ball 12 yards to a WR with no one around him
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
We have 7 points on offense. Can McAdoo come out? How about TC?
Might get their coach fired b/c Danny Boy will feel RGIIi should have been in earlier.
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but this coverage is fucking ghastly. Fewell desperately needs to be shitcanned.
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
Because he can still coach. So you do what the Steelers did with Cowher, and get rid of coordinators until you have a Cowher-LeBeau-Whisenhunt trio that leads to a SB win.
Keep TC, and work on the coordinator and position coaches.
It won't matter what players we get, if they continue to play undisciplined defense, with shitty schemes!
This defense is god awful.
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but this coverage is fucking ghastly. Fewell desperately needs to be shitcanned.
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
Because he can still coach. So you do what the Steelers did with Cowher, and get rid of coordinators until you have a Cowher-LeBeau-Whisenhunt trio that leads to a SB win.
Keep TC, and work on the coordinator and position coaches.
Anish, respect you a lot, but how do you know TC can still coach? I could say he can't with the same amount of evidence. Maybe more, after these past two seasons.
Can someone remind Randle what Reese said?
No contain.
No contain.
No contain.
No kidding.
+1
Two guys fell over each on the end there
lol
I can see it already on " A Football Life"
And even if it means a personal foul, someone on D needs to light up one of the WAS players.
Huge bullet dodged there. Thought is was a TD for sure initially.
but hilarious
Don't all scoring reviews happen in an NFL office in, uh, New York?
Merry Christmas from 270 Park Ave!
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I called it first, lol.
That's fine - we're not heading to the playoffs, so who the hell cares. Get a better draft pick with a softer schedule and hope next year treats us better.
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but this coverage is fucking ghastly. Fewell desperately needs to be shitcanned.
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
Because he can still coach. So you do what the Steelers did with Cowher, and get rid of coordinators until you have a Cowher-LeBeau-Whisenhunt trio that leads to a SB win.
Keep TC, and work on the coordinator and position coaches.
Anish, respect you a lot, but how do you know TC can still coach? I could say he can't with the same amount of evidence. Maybe more, after these past two seasons.
Because he didn't lose the team. They are playing for him. You have to evaluate and see if TC has control of the team. Surely, he didn't forget how to coach.
The knock on TC which I can't stand is his shitty coordinators he hired. But he can coach a team, and is going to be a HOF coach. So you keep the HC, and force a change at DC and the position coaches as well.
Maybe we do well with a new trio, TC-Ben M- ???
But TC can coach you just need better players and scheme defensively.
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but this coverage is fucking ghastly. Fewell desperately needs to be shitcanned.
Why bring TC back? He's responsible for this product. It's his team.
Because he can still coach. So you do what the Steelers did with Cowher, and get rid of coordinators until you have a Cowher-LeBeau-Whisenhunt trio that leads to a SB win.
Keep TC, and work on the coordinator and position coaches.
Anish, respect you a lot, but how do you know TC can still coach? I could say he can't with the same amount of evidence. Maybe more, after these past two seasons.
It's not an endorsement of TC coming back on my part, it is resignation toward its seeming inevitability.
Shhh, we're not dealing in facts here...
Should have taken Garcon there too.
hahaha
I thought so also but per the rules that was actually the correct call. He loses control of the ball prior to crossing AFTER being hit by a Giant, and then drops it out of his hands when he lands. It actually was an excellent call by the officials
He basically threw a forward pass to himself and caught it out of bounds on his back. Can't see one can even argue the call.
Our playbook is two pages long.
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I don't see another win this year. Rams will absolutely kick our ass and Eagles will need that game too and will embarrass us again to end our season on the lowest of notes!
That's fine - we're not heading to the playoffs, so who the hell cares. Get a better draft pick with a softer schedule and hope next year treats us better.
jcn56, draft picks won't mean shit if the schemes and undisciplined play remain. Fewell has to go with most of his staff too. Offense is a work in progress, but I'm not sold on some of the assistants we retained, such as Flaherty, Ryan and Gilbride jr.
This game proves the Titans are the worst team in football and we are a close second...
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but he hasn't learned anything new. You have to evolve with the times and keep learning. It's strange, TC wins us a lot of games as head coach, but he also loses us a lot of games...maybe that's why we hover around .500 overall.
Our playbook is two pages long.
Ben M. said he would tailor the offense towards the talent. WHat did you expect with this shitty talent on offense? 600 page playbook with fucking RR, Parker, and no namers at TE?
I am surprised it's 2 pages long.
exactly what the fuck has Eli done wrong in this game? It's not his fault Beckham didn't get his foot down, and Randle can't catch?
It's his fault our OL can't block for a yard?
What are you laughing at? Seriously we have nothing to laugh about.
It starts at the top.
I mean, come on - blind, or stupid, just pick one...
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that is absolutley a touchdown Moss is right that ref is a clown
I thought so also but per the rules that was actually the correct call. He loses control of the ball prior to crossing AFTER being hit by a Giant, and then drops it out of his hands when he lands. It actually was an excellent call by the officials
Reminiscent of Randle's no TD call last meeting!
It is a given that the Giants cannot hold containment on either side
I mean, come on - blind, or stupid, just pick one...
Most of these people have to be trolls. How do you watch what just happened and still think it's a touchdown?
Something to note.... you are still a fucking idiot.
Can't win. If he does something more imaginative and doesn't make it, you say "why not just run the FB up the middle?"
It's a situation like Indy where they should be using more bunch formations, switches and crosses, but it's just not something they do to help their WR's
It is a given that the Giants cannot hold containment on either side
Titans had an injured QB, backups at RB, and both OT's. Giants had no business losing.
The defense is still shit, no two ways about it.
Also, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are both wildly off today. Rogers specifically is 8/24 at the moment.
I don't run the QB sneak
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Eli is again playing poorly, this time against a bad defense. I
exactly what the fuck has Eli done wrong in this game? It's not his fault Beckham didn't get his foot down, and Randle can't catch?
It's his fault our OL can't block for a yard?
Totally agree. Our WRs have absolutely not been helping today. And so much for A Williams getting it going!
What did I take this fucking job? They look so defeated and now in control of anything.
What did I take this fucking job? They look so defeated and now in control of anything.
I don't understand how they attract supposed attractive candidates like Shanahan or Gruden.
He's also leading the league with 13 dropped INTs and in fumbles with 13.
He's a freak QB talent, having a very good season, but he's got to start to get his carelessness under control because his luck (no pun intended) is likely going to normalize soon.
Me either! VERY VERY COOL PLAY!!!
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On this thread to have the play in front of you, in slow motion, and the rule read to you, and still think it's a touchdown?
I mean, come on - blind, or stupid, just pick one...
Most of these people have to be trolls. How do you watch what just happened and still think it's a touchdown?
I think they actually are dupes more then trolls
That's just Moose making shit up to sound smart
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
Way to capitalize!
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What Eli is seeing sometimes. Just holding the ball. When the RB is just sitting there
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
I agree that Eli made a good decision NOT to throw to Williams. The next play... not so much
those types of deflections usually do end up being picked off...for Eli. Not so much the other QBs in the league.
Doesnt matter if you have all day if no one gets open.
You work somewhere that has goals set 31-1 against?
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What Eli is seeing sometimes. Just holding the ball. When the RB is just sitting there
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
I agree that Eli made a good decision NOT to throw to Williams. The next play... not so much
Agreed
We don't deserve a win.
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What Eli is seeing sometimes. Just holding the ball. When the RB is just sitting there
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
Bullshit. Moose said the same thing. Drop it to the RB there.
He went to the spot that the QB called and threw exactly where he anticipated the receiver to be located.
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What Eli is seeing sometimes. Just holding the ball. When the RB is just sitting there
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
Bullshit. Moose said the same thing. Drop it to the RB there.
Well if Moose said so, then he must be right. SMH.
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show redskins coaches, I think what must be going through their heads.
What did I take this fucking job? They look so defeated and now in control of anything.
I don't understand how they attract supposed attractive candidates like Shanahan or Gruden.
I guess money is one. The chance to build up a shitty franchise. With Gruden and Spags, maybe you never get a chance ever again so you take the first chance to be HC and go from there.
I don't know, I think that plays a part. You never know when you get that shot. Look at Bruce Arians. The guy was basically about to retire, and worked, got promoted and now is a HC.
Reese got asked by shitty franchises to be GM or interview. I think the Jets asked and he declined. So smart move by him.
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What Eli is seeing sometimes. Just holding the ball. When the RB is just sitting there
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
Bullshit. Moose said the same thing. Drop it to the RB there.
The way I saw it, Eli was going to throw it to him, but Andre wasn't ready for the ball as he wasn't even turning around to look for the ball, so Eli decided to look elsewhere.
If that's the case shame on Reese and Ross for letting that happen.
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and Parker can't find a hole in the zone versus a LB, and somehow that's Eli's fault? Okay.
He went to the spot that the QB called and threw exactly where he anticipated the receiver to be located.
He's supposed to find a spot in the zone and sit the hell down... If he cuts outside, it's an easy first down, rather than running under the LB.
Oh shut the fuck up.
how ironic would it be if he tortures us in the NFC East for the next 10 years?
or maybe the defense is doing this on purpose so that they will give false hope to the Redskins and force them to keep RGIII?
He took a horrible angle.
Play action when averaging 1 YPC.
Yes it is
Ankle injury
In a 10-10 game? No, it's not going to be his time unless Eli can't go or we are up by 129038192 points. Nassib is where he should be, standing, and watching.
Wondering the same?
We are damn lucky to be tied at this point.
Why should they? Did you expect in year one with shitty offensive talen to actually be good? I am surprised Eli is having a good year and not having even worse stats than last season. That to me, is fucking great.
How the hell do you put up good numbers with no OL and a supporting caste that includes 3 people out of football last season, in Walton, Fells, and Parker? Add the lose of Cruz, and it's amazing.
Ben M. has nothing to work with.
As soon as I say that, we get flagged on the next play
All bad today
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What Eli is seeing sometimes. Just holding the ball. When the RB is just sitting there
There were three fucking defenders that came off the rush waiting for the pass to williams. Your hatred of Eli is silly at times
Bullshit. Moose said the same thing. Drop it to the RB there.
Yeah because Moose said it, its fact. Moose was wrong on that play and if you put your anti-eli glasses down and rewatch it you will see the DE, a LB and the slot DB all move towards Williams when Eli looked that way. At best it would have been a pass for 1 yard, at worse an Int
HE sucks!!
I think RG3 flopped. But yeah - back to back shit from rolle
His misses tackles every game.
Hes the highest payed defender
You can really watch this and think that? Our OL can't block from here to there on running plays. We have 1 skill position player opposing teams worry about, and this is your point?
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100 yards of offense against the Redskins. Pathetic.
Why should they? Did you expect in year one with shitty offensive talen to actually be good? I am surprised Eli is having a good year and not having even worse stats than last season. That to me, is fucking great.
How the hell do you put up good numbers with no OL and a supporting caste that includes 3 people out of football last season, in Walton, Fells, and Parker? Add the lose of Cruz, and it's amazing.
Ben M. has nothing to work with.
This is professional football. A full time year round business. The first year of the offense excuse, is just that an excuse. These guys have been playing football their entire lives. I assume you played, as did I. It's not brain surgery. With a supposed possible HOF QB alone we should put up more than 100 yards of offense against the Redskins at this point.
haha
OBJ to the rescue.
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100 yards of offense against the Redskins. Pathetic.
Why should they? Did you expect in year one with shitty offensive talen to actually be good? I am surprised Eli is having a good year and not having even worse stats than last season. That to me, is fucking great.
How the hell do you put up good numbers with no OL and a supporting caste that includes 3 people out of football last season, in Walton, Fells, and Parker? Add the lose of Cruz, and it's amazing.
Ben M. has nothing to work with.
This is professional football. A full time year round business. The first year of the offense excuse, is just that an excuse. These guys have been playing football their entire lives. I assume you played, as did I. It's not brain surgery. With a supposed possible HOF QB alone we should put up more than 100 yards of offense against the Redskins at this point.
No, it's a reality. It takes time to teach what you need to the players, especially a team that is used to a completely different system. That's just easy to evaluate having coached. It's a completely different fucking system where you need to change everything, from routes, play calling, tempo, QB foot work. Far from an excuse. That's the reality of the situation and what you try to work on daily.
What do you want the fucking QB to do? We run curls and hitches and comebacks with a defender all over our WRs. Look at the Wrs getting open against our defense. They are getting separation, we are not! I don't know what you want in year 1. I knew this year would be an offense which would streaky. Completely new system with shitty ass talent. So this first year is par with my expectations. WHat I failed to see was Elis stats. I thought he would be equal to last year. I would never have guessed in year 1 he could put up these numbers.
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ware going to be a poor to average team.
lol
What is really crazy is how he may be the most talented but he also gas THE most fight in him of any receiver
Eh, one stud LB, one stud interior lineman on offense, and a few decent players, and we could be in business.
2 Beckhams and a better OL and we'll be running up Arena league scores.
2 Beckhams and a better OL and we'll be running up Arena league scores.
not with Coughlin as Head Coach.
2 Beckhams and a better OL and we'll be running up Arena league scores.
With Coughlin, we'd end up at some point running a lot more to kill the time and game. And then we'd put Nassib in to hand off.
Only, the two teams puck today :(((
When Kevin Ogletree is your second best receiver . . .
YEAH it really is stupid. Thinking back to when Sehorn's career was basically ended after ruining his knee on a kickoff return.
oh, it must be run on 1st down time.
Next August.
But the BS gets called. Unreal.
They got him when he first hit Kerrigan's shoulder. Touchy for sure.
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OBJ splits 2 defenders, and this guy hit and right down.
that was a good catch between 3 defenders coming back for the ball. Randle deserves some of the criticism he gets but complaining about that catch is over the top.
Eh, perhaps, I can't stand him as a WR.
Either play action or power it in there.
BTW, we were rewarded with about as many penalty yards (against the skins) that we have ourselves on offense.
in bad situation
its annoying !!
An 18 yd run and no gain.
Well, it wasn't the norm, so that's good. Just wish it could have been blocked better by a real OL.
And if they call the hold on Pugh there, they needed to call the time in the 1Q where Rolle was raped on the run in his direction.
And because our Wr corps sucks so yeah. Add talent in the offseason and then my opinion will change.
Come on TC had to have signed off on that 4th down play, they even had the timeout to talk it over.
Yes, and holding calls are one way that NFL officials indirectly influence games for whatever purpose they have, whether it is ratings, keeping audience glued to tv, or playoff matchups.
-Moore
- DRC (Hustle)
- ODBJ
Shitty Game:
-Rolle
-Demps
-Every LB
-Every DT
-Every WR not named ODBJ
-Every OL
Fuck You PIECE OF SHIT!!
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Go marry DEP!!
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McAdoo has his moments along with a few brain farts
Come on TC had to have signed off on that 4th down play, they even had the timeout to talk it over.
Sure... Just named McAdoo because he's the play caller. In that situation Giants should have kicked the FG to make it a 7 point game IMO. Not excusing TC either
Fuck You PIECE OF SHIT!!
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Go marry DEP!!
C'mon guys. This isn't ExtremeSkins.
I bet 99% of his posts shit on Eli.
Randle with a greeat play there. And the throw. WOW!
Fuck You PIECE OF SHIT!!
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Go marry DEP!!
Amish is one of the best posters on this site.
Check yourself.
Want the BPA.
That was an incredible, but very risky throw by Eli. Randle double clutched it, but caught the ball.
Beckham is gonna extend Eli's career for a few more years.
OBJ!
May not have been a good idea to throw across your body, but it was a good pass.
Dep,
Not sure who the fuck this tool is. But this losing season has brought out a lot of assholes on this forum.
It's an asset to still have quality posters that are usually on that I interact with. They make the forum enjoyable.
Because Eli got away with one there, throwing across his body. Not good technique.
I like your input
Happy holidays
Holy shit re:odb
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Dep,
Not sure who the fuck this tool is. But this losing season has brought out a lot of assholes on this forum.
It's an asset to still have quality posters that are usually on that I interact with. They make the forum enjoyable.
71 catches in 10 games
We've had some pretty good ones like Tiki, Plaxico, Shockey, Bavaro, but none like this kid......he's special. For all of Reese's failings, he really hit it with this pick .
Looks more like we are ending it. LOL!
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Pretty fair performance, huh
71 catches in 10 games
Terrible avg yardage per reception....;-}
Who do you think brought more excitement, Shockey his rookie year or OBJ? I can remember being hyped that Shockey was doing some great things. That colts game where he ran over the defender was just plain sick.
Rodgers has been piss poor but it goes unnoticed. Just the way things go, isn't a big deal.
Is our line supposed to say, "I'm sorry, you gentlemen are not of the highest quality of teams, we will not rush the passer"?
That should quiet anybody on the physically in decline stuff... Although it won't.
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While RR is going to Eli's left was a beautiful thing
Eli flushed himself out of the pocket.
No need, there was no pressure
Last year? Year before that? 2009'. 2010.
It wouldn't be right if they don't try get him those 2 extra receptions for him to break it. Doesn't look like it though
All starters? Are you sure about that....
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And some nuts want to blame this season on TC? Assinine!
Last year? Year before that? 2009'. 2010.
It's never Coughlin's fault.
and Santa is real
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Beckam has 12 today.
It wouldn't be right if they don't try get him those 2 extra receptions for him to break it. Doesn't look like it though
As much as I'd love it on some levels, it's bad karma to do that when you can just take a knee and win the game.
Ha ha
Yeah very misleading. I would traded all that for timely, clutch plays against Dallas and other teams.
Only if you're a pussy
That would have sealed it
even attempting fair catch doesn't make sense. can just let the ball go and take a knee on the next play.
The man can do it all.
That just proves he's human;just a play making machine.
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up sacks against the Jags, Titans, and Redskins.
Yeah very misleading. I would traded all that for timely, clutch plays against Dallas and other teams.
Apparently some can't tell the difference between a good opponent and those picking in the top 5.
happens
Think you're right.
Why don't other teams have their star players returning punts?
Because none of them have as great a coach as Coughlin, who is able to see the path to victory?
And, yeah, wins are really important right now--if you are trying to save your job. Which is exactly what Coughlin is doing: risking the health of his best young player in order to save his job.
And please spare me the outraged responses that Coughlin would never do that. He is doing that.
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He is a weapon and you win by using your weapons. With that said it made no sense having him do it with 10 secs left in a game you already have won. That is asking for trouble
Why don't other teams have their star players returning punts?
Because none of them have as great a coach as Coughlin, who is able to see the path to victory?
And, yeah, wins are really important right now--if you are trying to save your job. Which is exactly what Coughlin is doing: risking the health of his best young player in order to save his job.
And please spare me the outraged responses that Coughlin would never do that. He is doing that.
Huh? Coughlin is doing what he does every game. Trying to win. That's what they pay him to do and if he's doing anything less THEN he should be fired.
Lol- oh yeah, LT sat at 4.5 sacks until almost December. Great comparison and JPP was really outstanding besides the cellar dwellars the Giants have faced over the past 3 games.
That's just off the top of my head, honestly.
You can consider the source of competition all you want, that number is overwhelming and indicative that these guys playing very well.
A huge upgrade of where they were.
That's just off the top of my head, honestly.
Steelers use Brown.
You can consider the source of competition all you want, that number is overwhelming and indicative that these guys playing very well.
A huge upgrade of where they were.
Lol - oh yeah, if this bunch wasn't playing three straight awful QB's who play behind three awful OL's of teams picking in the top 5 of the upcoming draft, the stats would be better too lol.
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SD will use Allen. NE uses Edelman.
That's just off the top of my head, honestly.
Steelers use Brown.
Tomlin gets added to McCarthy, Belichick, McCoy, and Coughlin then.
That's a pretty nice collection of coaches, honestly, doing something no HC would do.
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He is a weapon and you win by using your weapons. With that said it made no sense having him do it with 10 secs left in a game you already have won. That is asking for trouble
Why don't other teams have their star players returning punts?
Because none of them have as great a coach as Coughlin, who is able to see the path to victory?
And, yeah, wins are really important right now--if you are trying to save your job. Which is exactly what Coughlin is doing: risking the health of his best young player in order to save his job.
And please spare me the outraged responses that Coughlin would never do that. He is doing that.
That is a completely ridiculous statement. There is nothing about Coughlin that would even remotely make a rational person with half a brain to think he's putting Beckham back there to save his job.
I mean holy shit.