the NFL is just so close, a few bounces really make or break seasons. The Giants have a lot to address in the offseason, no doubt..but that Arizona, SF, Dallas, & Jax game drive you nuts as a fan. Those losses were a matter of a few bounces.
Regardless, 5-9 for the second straight year is unacceptable and another good draft is crucial this year.
Nice win though.
RE: OBJ probably O player of the week honors......
A win like this can't be anything more than a true indication of the lack of leadership from our head coach and his staff. This team won but they played the type of football that 95% of the time leads to a loss. Sure it's a win but nothing today except for one player showed a team ready to compete at the NFL level.
I bet his numbers would be even more awesome with an offensive line that gives QB good protection, and Victor Cruz on the field with him at the same time.
On the play where RG3 bootleg right, I noticed Wynn did not go straight at him like a missile. Instead he very carefully tried to make sure he contained him. Bob got a few yards but Wynn did very well.
Running game has to improve next year too, if we want to be competitive. We do need another change of pace back, but run blocking must improve. Hopefully, with Richburg moving to center, Schwartz back at Guard and a FA or rookie mauling Guard, we will improve significantly in that area, because it's holding the offense back.
positives. We are padding sack totals against terrible OLs, but you can only play against those on your schedule. Still don't think JPP is worth what the monster contract he will be seeking. Maybe the best run DE in the league, and has gotten sacks the last three weeks, but he has an injury history, crashes down to much losing contain, and I'm not sure about his motivation. Dante Fowler could be an option if we go DE in the first. Moore and Wynn did well.
Can't defend rollouts, bootlegs, and screens.
Agree that we need a mauling guard. Hope that would be enough. Go Beatty, mauling rookie guard, Richburg, Scwhartz, Pugh. Jettison everyone else except Gaines and Herman from the current roster.
Just no running game right now. Of course, that is partly because our #2 WR is Kevin Ogletree. Might as well bring RR to camp, but he doesn't look to be in our long term plans.
OBJ (obviously), Moore, Wynn, Kennard. Not a lot of production for Williams but Washington was stacking the box - kid is tough. All of that is pretty encouraging.
A couple of fixes to the Oline - let Richberg get a year in the weigh room and we are going to be a much better team next year.
but this team is not very good, nor is the coaching. We have not beaten upper tier competition in years. It is very easy to get lulled into the kind of crap that this franchise has been offering up over the last several seasons in that we mismanage the season, win some games near the end against a bunch of bums, or teams that are holding their starters for the playoffs and then trot out our president at the very end to say everything is gonna be ok, offer up some sacrificial lambs and announce TC will stay. Personally I think we have owners that are just SCARED and LAZY to make bold decisions to get us back to excellence on the field. Get ready for some more of plate of shit they have been serving us again next year.
Suck take away OBJ and this team can't score 10 points maybe not even 9. Look guys stop drinking the stupid soup we have not beaten any team that is anything other than terrible. We got lucky on the TD call yes it was the right call but I'm not sure if that did not just break the skins back not our defense. Yes we got some sacks but that's the skins we are playing against not the cowgirls.
Let's see them produce against a good NFL team the errors they made in this game tells the true story about this team. If TC comes back because he wins against the Titans, Skins and Rams then just expect to see another 8-8 or worse team again next year. You want a win you got one but look at that game the fans paid to see and tell me you are proud of your team other than OBJ.
There is talent all over the defense. It's absolutely not a unit that needs a lot to succeed. We lost 3 of our corners for a bunch of the year. And that's without even getting into the Hill thing. If Fewell goes this is attractive defense for a coordinator.
A win like this can't be anything more than a true indication of the lack of leadership from our head coach and his staff. This team won but they played the type of football that 95% of the time leads to a loss. Sure it's a win but nothing today except for one player showed a team ready to compete at the NFL level.
Where to start with this special kind of stupid thought?
1. The team played hard all game - 2 examples were the hustle of JPP to knock the ball loose from RGIII to prevent a TD, and DRC hustling down the field to prevent a TD in the 3rd Qtr.
2. The offense could not run the ball all day, yet the Giants made some adjustments to put 17 points up in the 2nd half.
3. TC benched Randle for the 1st Qtr prior to the game because he did not prepare properly.
4. Did you notice the 'Skins offense in the 2nd half? Other than a bad play by Rolle, how many pts/yards did they get?
It seems like you have an issue with TC and are looking to place blame when there is none to place.
In comment 12033815 pa_giant_fan said:
[quote] Kerry Wynn, even though it was against a poor OL. Wynn could be a find. Decent school career, good combine numbers: 6'5; 266 lbs; 4.97 40 yds; 6.69 three cone; 34" vertcal, 31 reps.
Don't let a 2-4 or 3-4 finish fool you this team is a very long way from being good. There was one player that won this game for us take him away and the score is a true indication of the talent on this team. If we keep using him at this rate he is going to get hurt for a possible 6 or 7 win team. TC brings nothing to the benefit of this team any longer it's a proven fact. The idea of who do you replace him with that is better is BS anyone can get you 5 or 6
wins what's so special about that unless that's the teams goal for the season?
We lost Jennings today and guess what Williams or Hynoski carried the ball no other HB why on a 5 win season team. Is that how you prepare for a game only put someone in if it's him or no one else due to injury. Let's hope Jennings is just a minor injury because if not that's without a doubt on the HC playing a hurt guy.
There is some talent here and there so there is something to build on.
However, no one should ever confuse this disaster of a roster with a good team because it isn't even close to being a good team. And the people responsible for making it the mess that it is need to go and right after this season ends.
Don't let a 2-4 or 3-4 finish fool you this team is a very long way from being good. There was one player that won this game for us take him away and the score is a true indication of the talent on this team. If we keep using him at this rate he is going to get hurt for a possible 6 or 7 win team. TC brings nothing to the benefit of this team any longer it's a proven fact. The idea of who do you replace him with that is better is BS anyone can get you 5 or 6
wins what's so special about that unless that's the teams goal for the season?
We lost Jennings today and guess what Williams or Hynoski carried the ball no other HB why on a 5 win season team. Is that how you prepare for a game only put someone in if it's him or no one else due to injury. Let's hope Jennings is just a minor injury because if not that's without a doubt on the HC playing a hurt guy.
Ahhh, Jennings was hurt coming in to the game. He was only going to get limited plays anyway, so I doubt his one carry did anything.
Some are boneheaded, some are great. There are more good than bad. Moore has to play.... well, more.
I agree Wynn is all over the field. He has a future.
Said the same thing on the game thread... The guy is always around the ball when he's on the field. Let him work out his issues on the field. Sooner or later he'll get it.
Wynn looks like a steal too. At worst he'd be a Tollefson type of player coming in off the bench. Only he looks like he'd be better than Tollefson
I agree that without Beckham we pobable lose this game.
Still think They have to win one of the last two games. 5-11 losing the last 2 is not a good way to end up.
Regardless, 5-9 for the second straight year is unacceptable and another good draft is crucial this year.
Nice win though.
Probably not much against the Rams, as St. Louis is going to eat Jerry and Walton alive, then pick their teeth with Eli in all likelihood.
Won't be OBJ's fault though.
Thankfully the Redskins were little better. But I'll always take a win. It was good to see a better second half effort this week.
71 Catches
972 yards
9 TDs
We got something very special on our hands.
I hope we add the Alabama safety to this group come draft night.
Today was the 6th consecutive game in which the Redshins have allowed at least 5 sacks.
I agree Wynn is all over the field. He has a future.
Agree 100%
71 Catches
972 yards
9 TDs
We got something very special on our hands.
I bet his numbers would be even more awesome with an offensive line that gives QB good protection, and Victor Cruz on the field with him at the same time.
I agree Wynn is all over the field. He has a future.
Exactly. He makes plays. We need that on defense.
On the play where RG3 bootleg right, I noticed Wynn did not go straight at him like a missile. Instead he very carefully tried to make sure he contained him. Bob got a few yards but Wynn did very well.
Can't defend rollouts, bootlegs, and screens.
Agree that we need a mauling guard. Hope that would be enough. Go Beatty, mauling rookie guard, Richburg, Scwhartz, Pugh. Jettison everyone else except Gaines and Herman from the current roster.
Just no running game right now. Of course, that is partly because our #2 WR is Kevin Ogletree. Might as well bring RR to camp, but he doesn't look to be in our long term plans.
A couple of fixes to the Oline - let Richberg get a year in the weigh room and we are going to be a much better team next year.
Let's see them produce against a good NFL team the errors they made in this game tells the true story about this team. If TC comes back because he wins against the Titans, Skins and Rams then just expect to see another 8-8 or worse team again next year. You want a win you got one but look at that game the fans paid to see and tell me you are proud of your team other than OBJ.
Where to start with this special kind of stupid thought?
1. The team played hard all game - 2 examples were the hustle of JPP to knock the ball loose from RGIII to prevent a TD, and DRC hustling down the field to prevent a TD in the 3rd Qtr.
2. The offense could not run the ball all day, yet the Giants made some adjustments to put 17 points up in the 2nd half.
3. TC benched Randle for the 1st Qtr prior to the game because he did not prepare properly.
4. Did you notice the 'Skins offense in the 2nd half? Other than a bad play by Rolle, how many pts/yards did they get?
It seems like you have an issue with TC and are looking to place blame when there is none to place.
[quote] Kerry Wynn, even though it was against a poor OL. Wynn could be a find. Decent school career, good combine numbers: 6'5; 266 lbs; 4.97 40 yds; 6.69 three cone; 34" vertcal, 31 reps.
wins what's so special about that unless that's the teams goal for the season?
We lost Jennings today and guess what Williams or Hynoski carried the ball no other HB why on a 5 win season team. Is that how you prepare for a game only put someone in if it's him or no one else due to injury. Let's hope Jennings is just a minor injury because if not that's without a doubt on the HC playing a hurt guy.
There is some talent here and there so there is something to build on.
However, no one should ever confuse this disaster of a roster with a good team because it isn't even close to being a good team. And the people responsible for making it the mess that it is need to go and right after this season ends.
wins what's so special about that unless that's the teams goal for the season?
We lost Jennings today and guess what Williams or Hynoski carried the ball no other HB why on a 5 win season team. Is that how you prepare for a game only put someone in if it's him or no one else due to injury. Let's hope Jennings is just a minor injury because if not that's without a doubt on the HC playing a hurt guy.
Ahhh, Jennings was hurt coming in to the game. He was only going to get limited plays anyway, so I doubt his one carry did anything.
I agree Wynn is all over the field. He has a future.
Said the same thing on the game thread... The guy is always around the ball when he's on the field. Let him work out his issues on the field. Sooner or later he'll get it.
Wynn looks like a steal too. At worst he'd be a Tollefson type of player coming in off the bench. Only he looks like he'd be better than Tollefson