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A Major Reason Odell Beckham Jr is so good so soon

Emil : 12/14/2014 6:30 pm
It is just amazing what we are watching. Odell Beckham Jr is simply electrifying and I still can't believe he wears blue. I don't think the Giants have had a player like this in their history. There is so much that makes him so good. We know about the physical ability, the speed, the agility, the leaping, the catch radius, the freakishly large hands. But what only gets a casual mention (because it's not highlight worthy) is his impeccable route running. He is as precise as a ruler with his routes.

Fans don't often get to see this side of football because all eyes are on the QB at the snap when you watch on TV, but check out the replay of Beckham's last TD. He wins the route right off the line of scrimmage by attacking the defender's outside shoulder (his shoulder to the sideline). He uses his feet to get the DB to open up the inside and Beckham exploits it for the TD. It all happens in about a second and the DB is toast. Game over

Many WRs are fast, many are big, some are big and fast. Few are big, fast, and textbook route runners. In fact, with this new generation of large WRs, most get by on their physical talents because they can. Doesn't take much for a 6-3+ WR to gain the advantage on a DB. Beckham doesn't have that luxury. He is fast, and has an incredible catch radius, but he is not big. By running perfect routes, pretty much all the time, he gains separation without getting in the space of the defensive back. It is simply amazing to watch.

Would also point out, this is one of the reasons Beckham gets separation and Randle does not. Randle, who never seems to get separation, runs inconsistent routes and has lazy footwork. Not to mention, he seldom uses his size to his advantage. If Reuben Randle could add some polish to his game, like Amani Toomer did, he would be a real asset in this offense.
Another stinky OBJ thread?  
Headhunter : 12/14/2014 6:32 pm : link
are we going to have them every time he has a great game? This is getting old fast!
Oh headhunter :)  
Emil : 12/14/2014 6:37 pm : link
I disagree, this Odell Beckham Jr love fest is not getting old at all. Talk about the single greatest thing to happen tot he Giants since 2011.

I would also submit that this warrants its on thread as the intent was to highlight the importance of route running, which is often over-looked/dismissed by many.
Truth be told  
Headhunter : 12/14/2014 6:38 pm : link
this will never ever get old
RE: Truth be told  
Emil : 12/14/2014 6:43 pm : link
In comment 12034131 Headhunter said:
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this will never ever get old


Now you're talkin!

13 has become my new favorite number.

Also, isn't amazing how great Eli has looked since Beckham entered the line-up. Gotta keep those two together for as long as possible.
Chris R disapproves  
SanFranGiantsFan : 12/14/2014 6:45 pm : link
of another Beckham thread.
I don't think Chris r  
crick78 : 12/14/2014 6:51 pm : link
disapproved of OBJ threads, I think he was talking about constantly making threads about the other players we didn't choose in the draft. "I was right you were wrong" threads have their place, but they do get old.
One would hope that Randle  
Reb8thVA : 12/14/2014 6:52 pm : link
Will look at Beckam and say that could be me and he puts his nose to the grind stone in the off season to improve his play.
SanFran/HH  
Overseer : 12/14/2014 7:00 pm : link
you obviously do not understand chris's objection (hint: it's not about discussing/praising Beckham) which is probably why you are defensive across multiple threads.

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Randle you just feel like is not that far away from being a decent NFL receiver. But he hasn't shown that he's likely to take that next step to being a nice 2nd/3rd option. Next year is the "prove it" year. Even more than a 3rd WR option to complement OBJ (although that is welcome), I'd really like to see a nice TE commanding attention in the flat. That plus Cruz would make Beckham f'ing lethal.
Chad Johnson  
Big Rick in FL : 12/14/2014 7:18 pm : link
Pays a lot of attention to the WRs route running ability. He has said a few times that Antonio Brown is the leagues best route runner and that Odell is #2. Very impressive for a rookie.
Overseer  
Headhunter : 12/14/2014 7:21 pm : link
Please don't tell me about his intentions, he has been as transparent as Saran wrap in playing the contrarian.
I don't understand why  
Natek212 : 12/14/2014 7:22 pm : link
people are upset that this board is talking a lot about the sole bright spot of our season.
I don't understand why  
Natek212 : 12/14/2014 7:22 pm : link
people are upset that this board is talking a lot about the sole bright spot of our season.
Umm Nate.....  
Dye Job : 12/14/2014 7:31 pm : link
because the season is about the record the team has not what one player does. Can we see what Zack Martin does tonight please before popping champagne corks.
RE: Chad Johnson  
Emil : 12/14/2014 7:33 pm : link
In comment 12034201 Big Rick in FL said:
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Pays a lot of attention to the WRs route running ability. He has said a few times that Antonio Brown is the leagues best route runner and that Odell is #2. Very impressive for a rookie.


I think that is a pretty fair assessment. I don't watch a lot of Steelers so I can't comment on Brown, but he certainly puts up the numbers to back it up and is the most targeted WR in the NFL.

Route running is so incredibly important. QBs want to throw to a guy who is consistently in the right place at the right time, with space to work. The sad truth is most WRs don't learn this in college anymore. The fact that Beckham can be considered the 2nd best route runner at the WR position his rookie year is incredible. Really love the chemistry he and Eli are building.
"I dont think the Giants have had a player like this in their history"  
JohnB : 12/14/2014 7:41 pm : link

I assuming you never saw LT play.
RE:  
Emil : 12/14/2014 7:44 pm : link
In comment 12034246 JohnB said:
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I assuming you never saw LT play.


I meant to say "on offense"

That's what I love about this. We've had these guys on defense. LT, Strahan, and I still say Jessie Armstead was underrated. But I can't think of an offensive player in Giant's history that could just take over a game. Eli is the best QB we've ever had, and he has had some great performances, but this is a 10 game stretch of dominance at the WR position, by a rookie.
What do you expect Martin to do to possibly give credence to your  
Headhunter : 12/14/2014 7:44 pm : link
statement let's not pop the corks yet?
Emil...  
BMac : 12/14/2014 7:46 pm : link
...Before you get too transported, remember a linebacker called LT, who was every bit as amazing and exciting as OBJ13.
LT  
blapre74 : 12/14/2014 7:50 pm : link
but in fairness, he did say that he meant offense. LT made me feel like OBJ, in fact better, because they were woeful.
kinda makes you  
ep in md : 12/14/2014 7:50 pm : link
Forget the last #13 receiver we moved up for in the draft.
LT was the best defensive player I've ever seen  
Headhunter : 12/14/2014 7:51 pm : link
OBJ will end up the greatest offensive NY Giant player that I have ever seen. OBJ has become must watch TV, you just anticipate that when ELi drops back the ball is going his way and you have to see what happens
RE:  
section125 : 12/14/2014 7:52 pm : link
In comment 12034246 JohnB said:
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I assuming you never saw LT play.


Cruz was not too shaby either.
RE: Umm Nate.....  
BigBlueShock : 12/14/2014 7:56 pm : link
In comment 12034224 Dye Job said:
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because the season is about the record the team has not what one player does. Can we see what Zack Martin does tonight please before popping champagne corks.

Please tell me this post is a joke? With all the stupidity on BBI recently, my sarcasm meter is shot.
name the best guard  
blapre74 : 12/14/2014 10:00 pm : link
not named John Hannah; Zach Martin? really?
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