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In light of the dallas game thread let me say one more time

GFL in WV : 12/15/2014 7:52 am
that no self respecting Giants fan can root for the dallas cowboys under any circumstances what so ever. It just can't be done. Ever. If you are under 50, study the history. See the arrogance that is jerry jones and Jimmy Johnson, the sheer ignorance,criminality and an almost never called push off move that is Mikey Irvin and the rest of South America's team in the 90's. Then watch the sanctimonious Roger the Dodger and Landry pray their way to suspect victories with the accomodating refs that dallas has always seemed to have every Sunday. This franchise has NOTHING to recommend it to any kind of good things at all. The fans wear tee shirts that say "And on the eighth day God created the cowboys." They said that there was a hole in the roof so that God could see His team play. The dallas "fans" disappear when the record sucks only to re-appear even more obnoxious if dallas is winning. And you can root for these guys? Seriously?

I understand the Philly thing, I really do. The whole jail thing and the low class behavior toward other fans and a tendency towards criminality, I get it. But nothing, I repeat nothing, is as bad as dallas and never will be.

If only both these teams could lose each time they play each other!
And I think no self respecting giant fan can  
Essex : 12/15/2014 8:00 am : link
Root for the Eagles and I was a fan in the 80s (not the 70s).

We haven't had a significant loss to the Cowboys since 1993. We have lost to the eagles twice in the playoffs, and MITM part II
If you lived here  
Mike in Philly : 12/15/2014 8:01 am : link
you would know. Sorry but, when it comes down to philly or dallas, i will root for dallas every time. Around here you live ny the A-B-E code: Anybody But the Eagles.
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BrettNYG10 : 12/15/2014 8:01 am : link
The Eagles simply can't win a Super Bowl. Ever.

I'd rather see Dallas win ten in a row while beating the Giants in the NFCCG each time before seeing Philly win one.
100% what Mike and Brett said.  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 12/15/2014 8:05 am : link
The worst case sports scenario is an eagles Super Bowl victory
Agreed MIF! I live outside Reading and there is no arrogance  
GiantBlue : 12/15/2014 8:06 am : link
like Eagle fans! I rooted for the Cowboys last night as hard as I root for the Giants because I HATE, HATE, HATE the Eagles much more than the Cowboys. This goes back to the 60's, 70's and 80's when I lived in Long Island and continued stronger in the 90's, 00's and 10's here. I went to every Giants-Eagles game at the Vet and Linc since 1992 when I moved here and there is nothing to equal the hate I have for the Eagles and their fans! I was so excited they lost last night, I couldn't get to sleep until 2:00 AM. Let the fall-out in Philly begin and Let's go SKINS on Saturday Night!
Iran vs Iraq  
RetroJint : 12/15/2014 8:07 am : link
true-but you can never root for the Cowboys. Ever. & thank you Fat Chip. Nicely done. Do you know that the enlightened Chin Master had individual smoothies prepared for each member of his team that are uniquely suited to their needs and are wholesome and oh so refreshing? Fucking choke artist. Chip Kelly-The Object of Worship of BBI...or was it Ken Wisenhunt? Can't remember.
Never root for the Eagles  
Steve in South Jersey : 12/15/2014 8:09 am : link
always root for the team playing the Eagles unless the Giants somehow need that other team to lose.
I'd rather see Cowboys win next 100 Super Bowls  
Maximus, Esq. : 12/15/2014 8:12 am : link
Than the Eagles win 1.
No worries about the eagles winning a Super Bowl this year.  
ktinsc : 12/15/2014 8:12 am : link
Not with the Sanchise at the helm.
When they're playing the Eagles?  
shepherdsam : 12/15/2014 8:28 am : link

Giddy up Cowboys.
I grew up with the Giants playing  
Bramton1 : 12/15/2014 8:33 am : link
Randall Cunningham and Buddyball. Reggie White put Phil Simms on the sidelines a few times, and developed a hatred toward him (and the dude was a minister!). While I loved Cunningham's throwing motion, I hated him as a player. He was on the giving end of many butt-kickings and heartbreaks (the 92 yard punt, his ability to torch you on the ground and in the air, etc.) And Buddy Ryan needs no explanation.

Into the late 90s and the 2000s, the hatred changed to Donovan McNabb, Brian Dawkins, and Brian Westbrook (I was there for that 2003 punt return, I still remember the way Giants' fans filed out of the stadium so silently, while a few Eagles' fans gloated).

Basically, if you're playing for the Eagles, my feelings for you range from a deep dislike to a deep hatred. It was a trying time when Mark Bavaro was briefly an Eagle, I can tell you that.

Compare that to the Cowboys. It's not possible to hate Tom Landry, especially since he's the Giants' most famous defensive coordinator of all time (that said, knowing he eventually turned his back on the Cowboys and became a Giants fan again gives me a happy). The Hershel Walker/Danny White era was hardly a period of time to developed much of any venom. In the 90s, I didn't hate Jimmy Johnson, Troy Aikman, or Emmitt Smith. I hated Michael Irvin, and years later, Flozell Adams. I didn't like them, but I respected them. Same thing for Tony Romo and Jason Witten. It was hard to dislike Miles Austin, when he's the most successful football player from your alma mater. I don't like Jerry Jones' arrogance, but since you know that sooner or later, that arrogance will be at the detriment of his team, I can't hate him.

Did I root for the Cowboys last night? No, I rooted for a tornado. I root against whoever losing helps the Giants more. In the absence of that, I root against both teams, but the Eagles just a little more. I dislike the Cowboys, strongly at times. I hate the Eagles. And like others said, I'd rather the Cowboys win the next 10 Super Bowls than see the Eagles win one.
I guess I'm old fashioned  
fbdad : 12/15/2014 8:35 am : link
I like to spend my energy rooting FOR my Giants rather than AGAINST anyone
Who the fuck cares.  
arcarsenal : 12/15/2014 8:36 am : link
No one should be arguing about who to root for when it comes to these two teams.

It comes down to where you're from, who you know, etc. If you grew up around a lot of frontrunning Cowboy fans in NY who have never even been to Dallas, you probably hate the Cowboys qutie a bit.

If you grew up in Jersey (especially South Jersey), you probably knew/know a lot of shitty Eagle fans and can't stand them.

Everyone has their reasons for hating one team more than the other or both equally or whatever.

It doesn't matter. Everyone wants the same thing. They want Dallas to choke and keep their playoff win total at 1 since 1996 and for the Eagles to never win a Super Bowl.

There should be no argument.
To show you how much I hate the Eagles  
Bramton1 : 12/15/2014 8:40 am : link
I hated DeSean Jackson. Now I just pity him.

Two of the most heartbreaking losses in franchise history were against the Eagles (1978, 2010). Compare those with the three utterly depressing losses I can think of right away with the Cowboys (1993 Week 17, 1995 Week 1, 2003 Week 2). Sorry, no contest.
I prefer the Cowboys over the Eagles as the lesser of two evils  
Marty in Albany : 12/15/2014 8:42 am : link
but I would not call it rooting for the Cowboys.

BTW the cameras focus a lot more on former Giants TE coach, Mike Pope, than when he was with the Giants. Maybe it's because the Cowboys have TEs who aren't shit.
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BrettNYG10 : 12/15/2014 8:43 am : link
Since I've been a fan, I can't remember the Cowboys preventing us from making the playoffs. The Eagles ruined 2008, 2010, and have beaten us multiple times in crucial games. Fuck them.
2 words  
mark56 : 12/15/2014 8:46 am : link
Vai sikahema
arc summed it up best  
Psycho : 12/15/2014 8:48 am : link
I hate both teams, but hate the Cowboys a little more because they have all the bandwagon fans, have won all those Super Bowls (thus the front-running fans), and because I live in Texas.
This actually is a fascinating question  
hudson : 12/15/2014 8:50 am : link
Who is the Giants biggest rival/who do most Giants fans hate the most?

For the Skins, it's easily the Cowboys.
Ravens? Stillers.

But who do we hate the most? Who is our biggest rival?
Eagles? Cowboys? Or "depends" on the year.

Heck, who do Iggle fans or Cowboys fans hate the most?
Just go to one game in Philly and one game in Dallas vs the Giants  
BLUATHRT : 12/15/2014 9:00 am : link
and you will instantly have the answer of what team you hate more. Philly fans are the lowest common denominator and don't ever let you forget it. Dallas fans, while obnoxious, typically treat Giants fans with respect ( and I've been to both stadiums at least 20 times).
I just can't feel the hate  
rebel yell : 12/15/2014 9:18 am : link
as much for the Romo-led Cowboys. I actually respect Romo. That could change once he leaves...but right now it is the Iggles I despise and that's likely to continue. Classless fans and classless organization.
RE: Just go to one game in Philly and one game in Dallas vs the Giants  
pimcnj : 12/15/2014 9:20 am : link
In comment 12035060 BLUATHRT said:
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and you will instantly have the answer of what team you hate more. Philly fans are the lowest common denominator and don't ever let you forget it. Dallas fans, while obnoxious, typically treat Giants fans with respect ( and I've been to both stadiums at least 20 times).


Generally, Philly fans are bad anywhere. Dallas fans in NJ/NY are FAR worse than Dallas fans in Dallas. It comes down to which can you tolerate more. For me, if Dallas wins it'll suck but it's something we've dealt with before. If Philly wins the whole region (I live in SJ) will explode with "You guys suck and, oh by the way, we're #1" attitude that will make me want to vomit. If Philly could handle just being #1 then it wouldn't be as bad. I want neither to win, but if one has to win, for me it's Dallas and I'm no less a Giants fan for it.
Thanks you GFL  
jeff57 : 12/15/2014 9:24 am : link
I suspect those of us who remember the 60s and 70s may have a different outlook than those who don't. But the Cowboys are pure evil. No Giants fan should root for them ever.
I would sacrifice a virgin  
RB^2 : 12/15/2014 9:35 am : link
to make sure the Eagles never win a SB.

The only decision now is Anak or Brett.
The Cowboys  
RB^2 : 12/15/2014 9:37 am : link
are complete bitches, top to bottom.

But the Eagles are born of Satan.
Only one of them has the gaul to call themselves America's team  
jeff57 : 12/15/2014 9:39 am : link
Case closed.
Don't tell me...  
Chris in Philly : 12/15/2014 9:44 am : link
who I should root for. I think if you root for the Eagles you suck shit, how's that?
Iam just hoping  
BIG FRED : 12/15/2014 9:50 am : link
week 17 means something for Philly and we have a chance to end their season if we beat them .
RE: Iam just hoping  
jeff57 : 12/15/2014 9:53 am : link
In comment 12035173 BIG FRED said:
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week 17 means something for Philly and we have a chance to end their season if we beat them .


Eagles are in bad shape. The Lions will win any tie with them because they've already clinched a better conference record. Their best shot is to beat out Dallas because they'll have a better division record.
I love it when the senior citizens around  
Enzo : 12/15/2014 9:54 am : link
here tell the young whippersnappers what to think. Go back to sleep grandpa.
RE: I love it when the senior citizens around  
jeff57 : 12/15/2014 9:56 am : link
In comment 12035189 Enzo said:
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here tell the young whippersnappers what to think. Go back to sleep grandpa.


I'm not that old. But you should respect your elders.
I hate the Eagles like no other.  
I'mRonBurgandy? : 12/15/2014 9:58 am : link
I think Dallas has a better chance of shitting the bed in the playoffs, especially if Foles comes back. Hence, go Dallas....

Ughhhh. I just threw up in my mouth a little.
RE: RE: I love it when the senior citizens around  
Enzo : 12/15/2014 10:08 am : link
In comment 12035194 jeff57 said:
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In comment 12035189 Enzo said:


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here tell the young whippersnappers what to think. Go back to sleep grandpa.



I'm not that old. But you should respect your elders.

all of them?
Me, at least  
jeff57 : 12/15/2014 10:09 am : link
;)
The OP  
RinR : 12/15/2014 10:21 am : link
might be the post of the year on BBI.

As I've lived through all of that I couldn't agree more with GFL although he did leave out the decades of fawning and ballwashing by ESPN and now the NFL Network.

I will never, ever, NEVER root for the Cowboys.
I find it hard to hate the Chip Kelly Eagles the way I have always  
Peter from CT : 12/15/2014 10:27 am : link
hated the Eagles in the past. As long as Jerry Jones owns the Cowboys, I will hate them and their smug self-satisfied BS. He is such a douche that seeing them succeed (even marginally) burns my ass.
I hate the white wine sipping, cheese eating 49er's the most.  
gtt350 : 12/15/2014 10:45 am : link
the most arrogant , obnoxious fans i ever seen. Back in their hey day I had a layover in San Francisco on a flight to Tokyo and I'm in the bar and they're pissed because once they had to punt. no joke
I don't ever root for either (unless it helps the Giants)  
BillT : 12/15/2014 10:55 am : link
I just watch the game. Could care less who wins or loses.
RE: Don't tell me...  
Vin R : 12/15/2014 11:02 am : link
In comment 12035149 Chris in Philly said:
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who I should root for. I think if you root for the Eagles you suck shit, how's that?


Yeah! What he said! Suck shit.. lol
Damn Right, Your Elders,  
clatterbuck : 12/15/2014 11:37 am : link
This is a fool's choice but the Iggles are, indeed, spawn of Satan. I outright hate them and they must not, cannot win a SB. You want some reasons to hate the Iggles? Chuck Bednarik. Buddy Ryan. Andre Waters. Brian Dawkins. My best outcome? Dallas wins the division and loses in the first round. Iggles don't make the playoffs and Chip Kelly can take his fat, arrogant face back to college.
agree with the OP  
djm : 12/15/2014 11:49 am : link
dallas fucking sucks more than any NFL team by a wide margin. Fuck the Eagles of course, but fuck Dallas more. Fuck any good karma sent their way. Fuck everything positive about Dallas. Everything. They can't lose soon enough.

I can't believe some were actually rooting for Dallas against philly. Nauseating.
the only people  
djm : 12/15/2014 11:50 am : link
I will slightly give a pass to are the poor souls living in the philly region.

I can't blame them I guess. But you could fucking move. Do your part.
and this is coming from  
djm : 12/15/2014 11:54 am : link
a fan that went to the 88 shock block FG game against Philly. Went to the 89 affair that saw Cunningham punt the ball ninety two fucking yards...witnessed the 2008 NYG home playoff loss. Witnessed the 2010 debacle...i've been burnt alive too many times to count by Philly...Fuck Dallas more.

Eagle fans are mutant but at least they are fucking loyal and legit. Il give em that. Dallas fans in north jersey are the worst. YANKEE DALLAS fans in this area represent the lowest form of life on the planet.

Slam dunk for me. Dallas can never ever ever ever win again in the NFL. Never. Think Laker and Yankee fans but worse. And I am a Yankee fan.
Fuck Philly  
rsjem1979 : 12/15/2014 11:56 am : link
I have two general wishes when it comes to the NFL:

1) Giants win Super Bowl
2) Eagles do not win Super Bowl ever

That's it.
DJM  
BIG FRED : 12/15/2014 12:31 pm : link
Iam a die hard Yankee fan too and i hate these NY Yankee/cowboy bandwagon morons .I once had one pull next to me while i was at a light the day before the week 14 2011 Sunday night game and started to talk shit to me because he saw i had giants license plates on my car and as he sped away he had Yankee and cowboy bumper stickers ..
I am a self-respecting Giants fan and I went for the Cowboys  
ImaGiant86 : 12/15/2014 12:37 pm : link
I live in South Jersey so it's always fuck Philly.

If someone on the internet I've never met feels otherwise, oh well.
When the Eagles play the Cowboys  
mamu : 12/15/2014 12:46 pm : link
I always root for a meteor to hit the field. Can't pull for either team to win.
Hey, Cip, nice come back!  
GFL in WV : 12/15/2014 12:53 pm : link
Been on here with you a long time, geeeeez. I wasn't telling anybody how to root, just my feeling about it. And I know you hate Philly, you always have as have many others on here, WITH GOOD REASON. But dallas holds a special place for hate in my heart and the main reason I plead for forgiveness in church.

And as for grandpas, you young whippersnappers are spoiled, I tell ya. Ya should be grateful, the whole damn lot of ya. LOL

And last point, I totally agree with the comments above about dallas fans. I lived in texas two years, two months and twenty nine days and was witness to a lot of crap. But I do have to say that I did meet some dallas fans I did, *gulp*, like. It's the WV and East coast bandwagon riding assholes I don't like either.

I wish I could be more positive and talkin' Giants playoff football, for cryin' out loud. Now all I have is watching my most hated teams fail and that sucks. Maybe next year............
GO COWBOYS!!  
GiantFilthy : 12/15/2014 12:55 pm : link
(for 2 weeks)
Eagles:  
AnishPatel : 12/15/2014 12:56 pm : link
I hate their fans more than the team.

Dallas: I hate the team more than their fans.

So I wanted the Eagles to win just so that the Dallas hype would stop, and it's fun seeing Jerrah all sad and bent out of shape regarding his team.

Ideally, if both could lose that's the better option, but realistically that's not possible. So I would root for the Eagles so that I can see a sad Jerrah. Cue 2007 picture of sad Jerrah with 00:00 seconds on the clock.
the real way to root in these games  
YAJ2112 : 12/15/2014 1:02 pm : link
putting playoff scenarios aside, is to root for the road team. That way the paying fans go home pissed.
RE: .....  
RC02XX : 12/15/2014 1:04 pm : link
In comment 12034966 BrettNYG10 said:
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The Eagles simply can't win a Super Bowl. Ever.

I'd rather see Dallas win ten in a row while beating the Giants in the NFCCG each time before seeing Philly win one.


This.

And we don't have a chance to play the spoiler role by knocking out the Cowboys from the playoff run. We may have that chance with the Eagles in the final game. That would make that final game actually mean something more.
Greg will root for Virginia Tech  
RB^2 : 12/15/2014 1:08 pm : link
before I ever root for the fucktastic Eagles. That's how deep this goes.
move here  
feelflows : 12/15/2014 1:11 pm : link
Deal with Eagles fans, reassess and get back to us!!
RE: agree with the OP  
speedywheels : 12/15/2014 1:43 pm : link
In comment 12035617 djm said:
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dallas fucking sucks more than any NFL team by a wide margin. Fuck the Eagles of course, but fuck Dallas more. Fuck any good karma sent their way. Fuck everything positive about Dallas. Everything. They can't lose soon enough.

I can't believe some were actually rooting for Dallas against philly. Nauseating.


It's called picking the lesser of two evils.

What I find nauseating is when fans tell other fans who they should root for...
I'd call it more rooting for the Eagles to lose  
tribs : 12/15/2014 2:06 pm : link
it just so happens that sometimes that will result in a Cowboys victory.

However, one of the great things about that is that how much the Eagles fans HATE to lose to the Cowboys. When it's at home, in a big game, where a win basically seals the deal for the playoffs but it's snatched away by Dez Bryant repeatedly TD spiking the ball all the way down Broad Street. Oh you can just smell the misery. I think the only thing an Eagles fan would hate worse would be having to watch Troy Aikmian and Emmitt Smith do high fives as they double teamed their sister (and not young versions either, the current old men so it takes that much longer) Even then there are a good 20-30% that would rather watch that then the Eagles lose to Dallas.

I live around the Philly area so you really don't have to hear to much about the game afterwards, you just enjoy the weeping and moaning as the realization sinks in that they are in the midst of enduring yet another heartbreaking and soul crushing season.

Unfortunately it's not the Giants that can cause this amount agony to Eagles fans who are, quite honestly, the most deserving fanbase in all of sport.
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arcarsenal : 12/15/2014 2:30 pm : link
Like I said, it completely depends on the person and where they're from and who they know.

You can't just tell someone to hate one team more than the other.

Personally, I know a handful of the frontrunner Cowboy fans from NY who have never even been to Texas, have no relatives there and just fucking suck complete ass and are the worst football fans on the planet. Between that and "Americas Team" and Jerry Jones and all the hype every year over this stupid fucking mediocre football team, it makes me nauseous and I can't stand them.

I personally don't know any Eagles fans.. I don't live in an area where any even really exist (I'm sure there are a few, I don't know them).. so it's easier for me to not have to hear about it when the Eagles are good or win. If I don't watch ESPN, it's entirely avoidable.

That said, I still fucking hate the Eagles. I hope they never ever win a Super Bowl and if they sucked forever it wouldn't be long enough.

As long as Dallas doesn't win a playoff game and the Eagles don't win the Super Bowl, I am happy. Those are the 2 outcomes I need for each team each year for me to be content.
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