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Giants now 4th in NFL in sacks

Lowell.. : 12/15/2014 11:11 am
What's amazing is that they do it mostly with a four man rush. They have an astonishing 22 sacks in the last three games. Lets see how they do going against two vastly superior olines the next two game.

Hankins is 5th in the league among DT's with 7.0. Noteworthy since he's often been on the sidelines when they go Nascar. He's a very big man but he gets there with quicks more often than bull rushing. Should be considered for the Pro Bowl.

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RE: RE: RE: outside of a few players  
Tom in NY : 12/15/2014 12:31 pm : link
In comment 12035686 mikeinbloomfield said:
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Same thing with the Seahawks - the defense held them to 17 points going into the 4th quarter. But the offense didn't score a single point in the entire 2nd half of that game. Zero second half points. And that game effectively ended the season for the Giants.




So it was the zero second half points that did them in, not the 250 yards rushing they gave up? Give me a break.

In both Dallas games, had the defense made a stop when the game was on the line, the Giants had a chance to win. They didn't.

I'll give you the Philly and San Fran games, where both offense and defense did poorly, but the defense gave up 31 to Dallas twice, 40 to the Colts and 25 to the worst offense in the league, the Jags. Those are not offensive issues.


I don't disagree with your post, but to be fair the offense let up 14 of the points against Jacksonville (two fumbles for TDs). The defense did let up the game winning FG drive, but only allowed 11 points.
LOL  
ZogZerg : 12/15/2014 12:32 pm : link
Remember all the folks crying about the Giants not re-signing Linval Joseph for huge $? That pretty much lasted all summer and pre-season. Folks didn't have any faith in Hankins. Now he's all world.....
RE: Well, to me,  
JOrthman : 12/15/2014 12:34 pm : link
In comment 12035625 Doomster said:
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garbage time sacks are when a team is trailing by more than one score, late in the fourth quarter, and they have to pass, and the DL is not thinking run at all....

STL is now eliminated, and have nothing to play for, so it won't be the "test" I hoped it would be...they have only won one more game than us, and their offense is nothing to write about....if their defensive line comes to play, they will give our OL something to play for....


Then we are the last team that should get credit for garbage time stats as we are rarely ahead and the other team is forced to pass. Then all the good teams like the Broncos would have nothing but garbage time stats.
Ever since allegedly TC blew up at Fewell...  
Damon : 12/15/2014 12:37 pm : link
He's been dialing up a lot more pressure.
Folks didn't have faith in Hankins?  
Headhunter : 12/15/2014 12:43 pm : link
which folks would they be? I don't remember any concerns about Hankins
RE: Ever since allegedly TC blew up at Fewell...  
BeerFridge : 12/15/2014 12:44 pm : link
In comment 12035777 Damon said:
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He's been dialing up a lot more pressure.


Err, I missed the blowup. Seriously?
RE: This is a great read  
whobetta : 12/15/2014 1:04 pm : link
In comment 12035500 Headhunter said:
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none of the 28 teams behind the Giants played shitty teams, they all played great teams all season long that is why they trail the Giants in sacks


the point is if you get x% of your sacks in 3 games vs shit opponents it is less of an indicator on how you blitz or your DL than if you average 3 sacks EVERY GAME no matter who the opponent is...

getting 6 sacks in one game vs dook and then 0 vs an opponent you HAD to have a couple sacks against makes the TOTAL number less sexy
Big Blue Blogger.  
Tom from LI : 12/15/2014 1:17 pm : link
I said 70 years old... lol ;-)
RE: RE: We played the 3 worst teams in the NFL the last 3 weeks  
SB : 12/15/2014 1:26 pm : link
In comment 12035626 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 12035615 SB said: ...and still only could manage a 1-2 record. So big F'ing deal that we racked up sacks against them. Including against Tennessee that played two backup OTs.



1-2 record?

Anyway..


Ha! Damn my dyslexia. Anyway, yeah, I am not too impressed with a 2-1 record plus generally looking like crap defensively for much of the game yesterday.
Lies  
hudson : 12/15/2014 1:27 pm : link
Damn lies and stats
The most of you are offal fans  
NYG4246 : 12/15/2014 1:46 pm : link
this teams turns it up, admittedly not vs top notch talent, and you complain about it. This team could have easily rolled over and died. Instead they show heart and fight to the finish of a poor season and you complain about it. With the good comes the bad, unfortunately these last two season have been a stretch of underachieving football. Im sure you were all riding high after the last 2 Super Bowls when this squad beat the best this league had to offer. No you turn and talk shit like some pissed off ex-girlfriend. take the silver lining of the recent sack barage, or find another team to watch or "root for". you sound like jetplane fans.......This team will turn it around and be back on top sooner then later, maybe it will stifle you idiots for a week or so...... LETS GO GIANTS!!!!
RE: RE: RE: outside of a few players  
eclipz928 : 12/15/2014 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12035686 mikeinbloomfield said:
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In comment 12035644 eclipz928 said:


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Same thing with the Seahawks - the defense held them to 17 points going into the 4th quarter. But the offense didn't score a single point in the entire 2nd half of that game. Zero second half points. And that game effectively ended the season for the Giants.




So it was the zero second half points that did them in, not the 250 yards rushing they gave up? Give me a break.

In both Dallas games, had the defense made a stop when the game was on the line, the Giants had a chance to win. They didn't.

I'll give you the Philly and San Fran games, where both offense and defense did poorly, but the defense gave up 31 to Dallas twice, 40 to the Colts and 25 to the worst offense in the league, the Jags. Those are not offensive issues.


YES. When the team doesn't score a single point in an entire half of football, that's usually the biggest contributing factor in a loss. You can't win if you don't score points.

The Giants giving up 31 is not as concerning to me than them only scoring 21 points against Dallas' defense, especially with one of their three scores having to come after an INT that gave them the ball inside the Dallas 30 in that game.

I think everyone expected the Colts to put up about 30 points in that game - they were the #1 ranked offense. Giving up 40 is inexcusable, but the effort by the offense in that game was even more inexcusable. Only 3 first half points, and a total of just 10 point going into the 4th quarter. Stat sheet shows they only converted 4 out of 16 3rd downs. Awful.

And nothing really needs to be said about the performance by the offense against the Eagles.
Perry Fewell is at it again  
Chris L. : 12/15/2014 1:56 pm : link
padding the stats against week opponants. Show me a couple 6 sack games against a decent team with a decent QB and I will take notice.
RE: RE: RE: RE: outside of a few players  
mikeinbloomfield : 12/15/2014 2:28 pm : link
In comment 12036067 eclipz928 said:
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Same thing with the Seahawks - the defense held them to 17 points going into the 4th quarter. But the offense didn't score a single point in the entire 2nd half of that game. Zero second half points. And that game effectively ended the season for the Giants.




So it was the zero second half points that did them in, not the 250 yards rushing they gave up? Give me a break.

In both Dallas games, had the defense made a stop when the game was on the line, the Giants had a chance to win. They didn't.

I'll give you the Philly and San Fran games, where both offense and defense did poorly, but the defense gave up 31 to Dallas twice, 40 to the Colts and 25 to the worst offense in the league, the Jags. Those are not offensive issues.



YES. When the team doesn't score a single point in an entire half of football, that's usually the biggest contributing factor in a loss. You can't win if you don't score points.

The Giants giving up 31 is not as concerning to me than them only scoring 21 points against Dallas' defense, especially with one of their three scores having to come after an INT that gave them the ball inside the Dallas 30 in that game.

I think everyone expected the Colts to put up about 30 points in that game - they were the #1 ranked offense. Giving up 40 is inexcusable, but the effort by the offense in that game was even more inexcusable. Only 3 first half points, and a total of just 10 point going into the 4th quarter. Stat sheet shows they only converted 4 out of 16 3rd downs. Awful.

And nothing really needs to be said about the performance by the offense against the Eagles.


And I'm pretty sure you can't score points if you don't have the ball very much, which is what giving up 250 yards will do. Regardless, neither side of the ball has operated great this year. In my opinion, the defense needs more fixing and fixing it will lead to better results.

Remember, the Giants will have Cruz back next year, and we are all hoping Reese gets some help on the OL. No one is saying its perfect.
While it's true we played 3 weak teams the last three weeks,  
Ira : 12/15/2014 2:37 pm : link
our earlier schedule contained mostly good teams. So if our sack numbers the last three weeks were inflated, the earlier numbers were lower than they would have been against average teams.
NYG4246: We're offal fans?  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/15/2014 3:04 pm : link
That's absolute tripe.
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arcarsenal : 12/15/2014 3:20 pm : link
I would personally like to go in a different direction defensively after this year, but.. the collective meltdown BBI would have if Fewell were retained almost makes me hope he is.
big blue blogger  
gmenatlarge : 12/15/2014 3:23 pm : link
good one, never been a fan of entrails.
Keep Fewell he is the best  
ronzo : 12/15/2014 5:37 pm : link
Nevermind he sucks balls
Mara  
wash88 : 12/15/2014 5:42 pm : link
Glad he can keep all the low
paid coaches and none have
job offers.
Seems to me  
PEEJ : 12/15/2014 5:45 pm : link
that more than a few of these sacks should be credited to the secondary.
Give the DL credit for working through blocks, but I see a bunch of plays where the QB pulls down the ball when his first read isn't there.
RE: While it's true we played 3 weak teams the last three weeks,  
bigfish703 : 12/15/2014 8:47 pm : link
In comment 12036189 Ira said:

our earlier schedule contained mostly good teams. So if our sack numbers the last three weeks were inflated, the earlier numbers were lower than they would have been against average teams. [/quote]

Good point. When some fans decry the recent opposition, they ignore how tough the early schedule was. Things usually even out over the full 16 games & that is why the total of 41 sacks is impressive. However, I still wince at the 9 secs Romo got. We have to improve our "D."
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