Should/Will there be a market for Nassib?

2nd rounder or pass.

trading him for anything less than a second round pick. One more excellent pre-season and the suitors would be calling anyway.

I would prefer we keep him as his value is greater than flipping a draft pick. He is a cheap backup who I think would play well when called upon.

they still need a backup for Eli, and they must feel Nassib is capable of filling the role. I suspect Nassib is thrilled to be here, and that his chance will eventually surface, here or elsewhere. A cost-controlled backup you trust is a win.

but he's the type of guy who needs assimilation time as he makes a jump in class. The Giants, therefore, did him a favor. He is not a depreciated talent so, yeah, he'd get a fourth. However your QB is an FA. Stuff happens .

is everybody so eager to trade Nassib? Probably the same crowd that went berserk with rage because we used a fourth and sixth on him instead of a backup LB and CB.

I wouldn't even consider trading him for less than a #1 or two #2s, which nobody would give. Many teams had a low first or high second round grade on him, and he looked very good this past preseason. Granted, it was just preseason, but as you note, many teams have brutal QB play. QB is the hardest position to fill. A recent article in The Washington Post recounted the 16 starting QBs under Dan Snyder.

Nassib might not be the successor to Eli. But there are enough indications he might be to hold onto him. Wouldn't it be sweet if we could make a smooth transition from Eli to Nassib? Why eliminate that chance?

and no.
The second no is largely due to not seeing him play, so why would anyone buy?

i guess yeah a lateral pick wouldnt make as much sense given the value of a backup QB they trust. So if a team like Houston or Chicago offers a 3rd, you wouldn't take that?

I think that would be something we'd have to consider, especially given our QB's durability.

If there is a smooth transition from Eli to Nassib, it will be 7 years from now when Nassib will be a 9 year vet backup.

Eli isnt going anywhere for a long time.

that even with a comparable skill set would set the team back

or will be in the near future. The only way that changes is for him to play successfully in several games because Eli is not playing.

But I also think that a lot of teams have their heads up their ass about QBs. Why Buffalo didn't take him instead of the scattergun-armed E.J. Manuel is still a complete mystery to me. A lot of teams seem to want mobile QBs despite the fact that most of them haven't done squat.

Nassib is potentially better than any QB on several teams including Buffalo, the Jets, Houston, Tennessee, Jacksonville, probably Minnesota, and possibly a few others. But as we well know, potential is not always realized.

pick would be given an equal chance to unseat a 2 time SB winning, number 1 overall, never missed a start QB? Please. And if Nassib thought otherwise he would have to be pretty stupid.

I was impressed with Nassib in the preseason. For a second year QB who was not exactly highly touted he showed good command of the offense, good footwork, a timely delivery, and accuracy. It's all moot at this point because it may mean nothing in regular season play.

And I fully recognize the Giants need to have a capable backup for Eli, but Nassib will be a FA long before Eli retires (assuming Eli resigns, which we all think he will) so there is a strong argument to be made that Nassib is likely going to leave anyway. Might as well get something for him.

So yes, I do think there will be a market for Nassib. And immedietly following the 2014 season, the Giants front office should call Doug Marone in Buffalo. Buffalo is DESPERATE for an upgrade at QB, to the point where rumors are circulating about a possible trade for Cutler (I don't think the Bills front office would be that dumb). I repeat they are desperate. They have one of the top defenses in the league, good WRs, and a young OL that is getting better every week. But nothing worth mentioning at QB.

Nassib played for Marone at Syracuse and the two are arguably responsible for each others success in getting to the NFL. Also, Marone brought his OC from Syracuse to Buffalo, so the Bills would end up having a HC, OC, and QB who had all worked together for years.

I don't know if Buffalo would give up their 2nd round pick, especially since they have no 1st rounder this year. Maybe a 4th this year and a 2nd next year, or something like that. I like Nassib, would like to keep him, but I think he will leave anyway, and I'd get what I could for him. If not this offseason, then next offseason. The Giants can find a backup QB in FA. The pickings aren't great, but they never are.

...and wouldn't be surprised if an inquiry comes from his old college coach who has quietly assembled a very talented roster that needs some health and a QB.

But if the team really feels he has the makings of a franchise QB then it would take a pretty hefty price to pry him away - that's a very low cost insurance policy for at least 2 years should Reese again try to fix the OL by brining back Snee, claiming he's well rested and refreshed, and Eli ends up adding to his growing list of physical ailments.....

In comment 12035948 Victor in CT said:

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pick would be given an equal chance to unseat a 2 time SB winning, number 1 overall, never missed a start QB? Please. And if Nassib thought otherwise he would have to be pretty stupid.

I guess but if I was drafted and the GM openly says I hope he never steps foot on the field in a Giant uniform, that would irk me.

You would need compensation for a cheap, serviceable backup QB who is familiar with your coaches, system and personnel. That is probably equivalent to at least a 2nd round pick.

For it to make sense for another team, they would be getting a 4th round talent with very limited experience and film except for vanilla preseason games. Probably not worth more than a 4th round pick for them.

So honestly, I don't think trading Nassib is an option. His value to the Giants is likely much higher than his value to any other team now. This isn't equivalent to a Kevin Kolb type situation where the guy had some success during the regular season that teams could evaluate.

The flaw in that reasoning is that Marrone coached Nassib in college and didn't draft him when he had the opportunity - even in the fourth round. It would seem that at the time of the draft, Marrone was not of the opinion that Nassib was a quality NFL starter. I don't see what may have happened to change that opinion.

In comment 12035984 Mike from Ohio said:

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You would need compensation for a cheap, serviceable backup QB who is familiar with your coaches, system and personnel. That is probably equivalent to at least a 2nd round pick. For it to make sense for another team, they would be getting a 4th round talent with very limited experience and film except for vanilla preseason games. Probably not worth more than a 4th round pick for them. So honestly, I don't think trading Nassib is an option. His value to the Giants is likely much higher than his value to any other team now. This isn't equivalent to a Kevin Kolb type situation where the guy had some success during the regular season that teams could evaluate.

Mike, I think you're right with one possible exception, and that's Buffalo. No team, with the ability to compete now, is more in need of a new QB. And Buffalo is the only place in the NFL, other than the Giants, where Nassib has connections. You might get good value out of Buffalo.

In comment 12035999 Mike from Ohio said:

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The flaw in that reasoning is that Marrone coached Nassib in college and didn't draft him when he had the opportunity - even in the fourth round. It would seem that at the time of the draft, Marrone was not of the opinion that Nassib was a quality NFL starter. I don't see what may have happened to change that opinion.

Good argument, but here is my counter.

1. Nassib was clearly not a 1st round talent coming out, and Buffalo was going to use their 1st rounder on a QB. Spending it on Nassib would have been a reach
2. We have no idea if the Bills were eyeing Nassib later on as a back-up (doubtful though)
3. We also don't know what the assessment was from the Bill's front office and scouts on Nassib vs Manuel vs Geno Smith (and so on)
4. It is also possible that the optic of the new coach going with the QB he had coached in college as a first round pick would have been a potential headache the floundering franchise did not want to deal with. Especially with other, better regarded, prospects available.

Nassib is effectively getting his masters degree in being an NFL QB. I've got to believe that his value is rising.

I'm still scratching my head over the Bills drafting EJ Manuel.

I don't know their structure, but it may vary how much input the HC gets relative to draft picks, and other personnel decisions. It was pretty major mistake, so far.
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He's a young QB who can continue the grooming process. Who will be the backup if you do? Some mediocre veteran? Then who will be the QB of the future?

In comment 12036064 jeff57 said:

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He's a young QB who can continue the grooming process. Who will be the backup if you do? Some mediocre veteran? Then who will be the QB of the future?

I think it's still too early in Eli's career to be in the process of grooming his potential future successor. Chances are extremely slim Nassib is Eli's successor barring catastrophic injury.

In comment 12036055 JonC said:

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I don't know their structure, but it may vary how much input the HC gets relative to draft picks, and other personnel decisions. It was pretty major mistake, so far. .

The thing with the Bills during that draft year was Marone had just been hired and the team had come off the Fitzpatrick experiment. There was a lot of pressure to draft a QB in round 1, and draft an athletic QB to add a dimension to the offense, as the Bills were kicking themselves for not drafting Russel Wilson a year prior. (stupid reason)

EJ was viewed as the safest pick at QB in round 1. Good kid, ran a pro style offense, good athlete. Problem is, he is a slow decision maker and has below average accuracy.

What was wrong with Marrone thinking that Manuel was a better prospect than Nassib? Just because he coached Nassib doesn't mean he wouldn't think someone else is better. Also. Once he took Manuel why would he also draft Nassib especially with all their needs? The Redskins did something like that which hasn't worked out so well

He was erratic in college and has earned a seat on the bench with a team desperate for a QB.

than the 4th rounder Reese used to draft him a few years ago. He hasn't shown much other than some solid preseason play but if I had to bet I would think that other GMs value the 2nd or 3rd year QB with some polish over the rookie.

I don't think it's far fetched to think that some GM out there that liked Nassib a few years ago but missed getting him still liked Nassb now and would pay a little more to get him. Question is does that GM exist.

not sure it's even worth trading Nassib. I'd think the Giants haven't exactly fallen in love with Nassib but they probably haven't fallen out of love with him either. HE's worth holding on to unless someone made a ridiculous offer, which won't happen.

Wouldn't want to lose him without having another young QB to take his spot.

in case something disastrous happens to Eli (heaven forbid). For this year, I'd actually give him the 2nd half against St. Louis to see how he can handle a good NFL defense. Eli's done enough for king and country and I don't think it's fair to see him take a beating for 4 quarters against the Rams

last week. Front Office and Coughlin have been talking about developing a backup for over 7 years and now they are supposed to just trade him? So they can pay a more expensive vet or start the process over and use more resources? He has no real value because he is unknown in regular games.

In comment 12036109 djm said:

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not sure it's even worth trading Nassib. I'd think the Giants haven't exactly fallen in love with Nassib but they probably haven't fallen out of love with him either. HE's worth holding on to unless someone made a ridiculous offer, which won't happen.

Actually, the Giants have been high on him this season. See Dotino's report about him getting 1st team reps last week.

The bottom line is that the quality and quantity of picks the Giants would need to receive in order to make it worthwhile to trade Nassib is greater than any team would reasonably be willing to offer.

I think the Giants would need to get a #2 plus another pick or a #1 (highly unlikely) to make it worthwhile. I doubt any team would give more than a #3.

enough I terms of picks. I can't see another team shelling out a #2 for him, nor could I blame them. On the flip side, why would I want the Giants to trade him, forcing them to spend another draft pick this year or the next on another QB?

for a fourth(and 6th) round qb, If he doesn't play in a regular season game, and then if he does play, he has to play a great game, so he will be over valued....

In a situation where the team is competitive... and needed a starter for a few games if Eli got dinged... Nassib could be an interesting wrinkle that could win a game or two.

Is invaluable.

Started for a team like the Raiders or browns, his career would be coming to an end. Nassib being on Giants has afforded him the chance to have a long career in NFL.

Starting qb next year. Eli
will play all of last 2 games
and may get injured. Tc
should have nassib play
2nd half of both games but
not a smart coach.

In comment 12036545 wash88 said:

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Starting qb next year. Eli will play all of last 2 games and may get injured. Tc should have nassib play 2nd half of both games but not a smart coach.

Hey bossman

He should have been on the field in the last few weeks but he has not so he is still an unknown. As for his value he is on a team not know for developing QB's and has shown nothing on the field except during preseason. So he has two strikes against him from the start, one could have been easily removed if they put him on the field but looks like that's not going to happen unless an injury to Eli.

His value could not be much maybe not even a 4th round since he has had no opportunity to show anything. Now his value to the Giants could be high since he has been here for two years but as usual for this team he is just another unknown.

would have Nassib along with most backup QBs on their list.

It's just that Nassib has ZERO NFL real game tape to look at. If it were me, I'd certainly consider making the Giants an offer for my 2nd rounder IF Nassib & his 2 years of pre-game experience looks better than a QB I could draft.

I wouldn't let Nassib go either for anything less than a 2nd round pick.

If Nassib magically went back into the 2015 draft with his current resume, he'd probably be the 3rd QB taken.

for like 3 or 4 years? Nassib could be in the same boat.

In comment 12036606 Simms11 said:

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for like 3 or 4 years? Nassib could be in the same boat.

and have the same career!

:>)

not a fourth. He came into the league much more developed and with much more upside than Nassib. The fact that they could both sit for 3 years doesn't mean they would progress similarly.

I don't understand why there is a belief that another team would give up a second round pick for a guy picked in the fourth a couple of years ago and with no regular season game experience. It seems you could grab a QB in the second round (likely with more upside) and develop him in your own system for a year or two, and not have to deal with him leaving or needing a new contract in two years.

He is a QB under contract. He hasn't started a real NFL game and likely won't this year. I'd love to see him get 2nd half duty vs the Eagles to close out the season but I'm not sure TC will do that.

The Eagles may now be playing for their playoffs in the finale so it will be a real "game" for us. I like that actually.

In comment 12036049 Phil from WNY said:

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Nassib is effectively getting his masters degree in being an NFL QB. I've got to believe that his value is rising.

Then let's sit him on the bench for another 2 years and let his value go through the roof.

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Reached for EJ Manuel instead is strange. I like nassib's upside much more than EJ's at this point but that could just be because we've seen one play much more than the other.

I like what I saw from Nassib this summer. I'd prefer to keep him. Who knows what the future holds?

"they wont get anything more than a 4th rounder for him'

Do you guys actually remember trades from the last 10-20 years?

Kevin Kolb? AJ Feely? Favre? Many more...do those names ring a bell? Those guys were drafted in one round, sat around for 1-2-3 years, sometimes doing very litte other than practicing and MAYBE throwing a few nice passes in a regular season game and then they were traded for higher value than their original draft pick.

It happens. A lot. Doesn't mean it will happen with Nassib but it does happen.

Started. You're not going to get a higher round pick for QB sight unseen.

In comment 12036545 wash88 said:

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Starting qb next year. Eli will play all of last 2 games and may get injured. Tc should have nassib play 2nd half of both games but not a smart coach.

your an idiot