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Damontre Moore

TC : 12/15/2014 1:30 pm
Yesterday he did some good stuff, and some dumb stuff. On balance, there was more good. The talent is obvious, but the cranial-rectal pressure from which he sometimes suffers aside, he almost looks like he's playing the wrong position.

Loved Bobby's reaction when Moore chased him down from behind. Sorta like, "How'd that happen?" I haven't liked it when the Giants have dropped DL's into pass coverage, and Kiwi started as a promising DE before becoming a not great LB. But I just can't shake the idea that Moore has the body and physical skills of 3-4 OLB.

And I don't necessarily want to see the Giants play 3-4, but it just looks like Moore might have the potential to be special in the right position. Seems a shame to have to use him to do thing for which he might not be best suited.


without playing time you can't improve  
mdc1 : 12/15/2014 1:33 pm : link
practice is interesting, but in real games they light you up.
He's big enough to play 4-3 DE, just needs more technique and strength  
JonC : 12/15/2014 1:34 pm : link
to hold the POA, edge. I don't think he's got enough AA to play in space, so then you're looking at deploying him in fashion similar to Von Miller, which not many teams do. Talent usually dictates scheme, in that scenario.

His biggest issue is his brainfarts.
At 22 years-old, not everyone's mature. It's no excuse. I know.  
Marty in Albany : 12/15/2014 1:42 pm : link
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RE: At 22 years-old, not everyone's mature. It's no excuse. I know.  
AcidTest : 12/15/2014 1:48 pm : link
In comment 12036018 Marty in Albany said:
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This. He's 22, and shown some flashes. Yes, he's better than Kiwi, but it's more than that. He's gotten some pressure. He does need to get stronger and play smarter, but there is more than enough about him to be optimistic about the future.
Thought it was interesting during pre-game  
giant24 : 12/15/2014 1:53 pm : link
interview he said his main goal is to get bigger but has a hard time gaining/keeping weight. Started season at 260 and is down to 250 even though he eats all the time. Says since high school he has only gained about 20 lbs.
He might be better in a 3-4, but I think he can be good in a 4-3  
jeff57 : 12/15/2014 1:53 pm : link
I'd just rather see him playing the weak side end.
That makes sense, ties into TC's recent answers  
JonC : 12/15/2014 1:54 pm : link
about Moore not holding up over the course of a game.
We need DEs  
TMS : 12/15/2014 1:55 pm : link
in this defense who can play the run. We saw what happened with the one dimensional edge rusher Umenyiora over the years. JPP can do both like Strahan, thats what we want. Do not know if he can become that guy. Strahan was smart and a studet of the game that got better and better because of that. Moore not so sure. Hope so.
Kerry Wynn is showing  
TMS : 12/15/2014 1:57 pm : link
some potential to be a find. We will see.
RE: We need DEs  
gmen9892 : 12/15/2014 2:34 pm : link
In comment 12036062 TMS said:
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in this defense who can play the run. We saw what happened with the one dimensional edge rusher Umenyiora over the years. JPP can do both like Strahan, thats what we want. Do not know if he can become that guy. Strahan was smart and a studet of the game that got better and better because of that. Moore not so sure. Hope so.


We also dont win either of the two Super Bowls had it not been for Osi. Moore has a place on this team as a pass-rush specialist at worst. At best, he gains weight, plays the run better and can be trusted in all scenarios.
Flip JPP and Moore and it's less of an issue  
ImaGiant86 : 12/15/2014 3:27 pm : link
JPP needs to be on the left side anyway as he's our best run defender at the position.
Moore  
Dragon : 12/15/2014 5:07 pm : link
Why did Kiwa have to end up on the IR for us to even see these young guys need game time experience. He has been being developed for two years yet in the end the only way to learn is where? I'm not saying that he is going to be great but even against these bum teams we are playing at this point he is causing problems for the offense. While he has brought some energy to the pass rush JPP seems to have awoken from his season long nap as well.
RE: Moore  
jeff57 : 12/15/2014 5:34 pm : link
In comment 12036494 Dragon said:
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Why did Kiwa have to end up on the IR for us to even see these young guys need game time experience. He has been being developed for two years yet in the end the only way to learn is where? I'm not saying that he is going to be great but even against these bum teams we are playing at this point he is causing problems for the offense. While he has brought some energy to the pass rush JPP seems to have awoken from his season long nap as well.


Why? The coach.
he's  
blue42 : 12/15/2014 7:43 pm : link
putting more pressure than Kiwi did by a mile. The last three games the pressure has been much better and Moore has a hand in that. Let the guy play. He's only going to get better.
Moore, Hankins, UDFA, JPP - they are our starters next year  
SGMen : 12/16/2014 12:04 am : link
I think Moore ends up being a starter. He has shown flashes and gosh he is so young. Learning.

We need a top UDFA DT and also some draft picks to replace Kiwi, Patterson and maybe Kuhn, Jenkins (age).

This defense needs to get lucky with free agency, have the injured return to health, and have a great draft to rebound. There are an awful lot of holes and our rankings prove it.
SGMen: I hope Bromley has earned the first crack at the 3-technique.  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/16/2014 1:14 am : link
It's hard to see a major UFA signing on the defensive line in addition to Pierre-Paul. That's probably more of an either-or decision. With the jury still out on Moore as a successor at RDE, retaining Pierre-Paul seems the more likely choice.

At DT, Jenkins is under contract, and might have enough left to let the Giants phase Bromley into the lineup gently. Either way, though, it's a problem if Bromley hasn't shown enough to establish himself as an eventual starter. If the team deems it necessary to commit a big chunk of free-agent money to defensive tackle, it will mean skimping elsewhere - possibly at DE, S, or - like 2013 - at LB.
Depending where they're drafting  
jeff57 : 12/16/2014 6:55 am : link
a first round DT, namely, Danny Shelton or Eddie Goldman, is not out of the question. One of the reasons they were terrible against the run this year was because of the other DT spot.
Bring in Sexy Rexy  
Glover : 12/16/2014 11:24 am : link
to run a 3-4 scheme.
Apparently Damontre Moore is not  
jLefty : 12/16/2014 1:39 pm : link
a great run defender. But when he'sin there he's a rushing devil. Wonder if he would be a good linebacker. In any event he's an exciting player and is definitely an asset. Hope Preston Parker, Donnell,Fells and yes, Rueben Randle are part of our next year plans. Randle despite problems is a better receiver than many give himn credit for. He made some tough catch in a key down Sunday. Odell, Cruz and Randle. Pretty good trio.
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