2015 Keepers and Goners

is not un useable as a 5th WR/Kick Returner/ ST player

going down the list but do you realized that you are predicting or hoping for 18 new players on offense? Doesn't that seem a bit much? Granted some of those guys are on the IR but still...
Case in point, you got only 4 linemen returning as keepers. Replace a couple of starters and all the depth as well?

Preston Parker or Ogletree.

I'd keep Walton.

Not getting rid of Adrien Robinson.

The defense well....have at it. Thik after the past two weeks Antrel might be done, as much as I like him.

He is under used and the run blocking particularly short yardage game has been poor.

"goners" are, at the very least, getting an invitation to training camp and a shot to defend their roster spot.

He is playing decently,he can provide depth

He has 1 year left on his deal, and there's virtually no cap benefit to cutting him.

I think Walton returns as well (hopefully as the backup OC)

I could see him replacing Randle at the 2 if he has another strong camp and preseason.

Parker should be brought back as an insurance to Cruz.

and could stick as the 4th/5th DT

Quarterbacks: Agree with all

10 Eli Manning - K
9 Ryan Nassib - K


Halfbacks: Agree with all

23 Rashad Jennings - K
44 Andre Williams - K
43 Orleans Darkwa - G
47 Chris Ogbonnaya - G
29 Michael Cox - G
33 Peyton Hillis - G


Fullbacks: Agree

45 Henry Hynoski - K


Wide Receivers: Randle/Parker will be back. Parker as specials only and 5th WR.

82 Rueben Randle - G
13 Odell Beckham - K
83 Preston Parker - G
80 Victor Cruz - K
12 Jerrel Jernigan - G
18 Marcus Harris - G
15 Kevin Ogletree - G
88 Corey Washington - K


Tight Ends/H-Backs: Only Donnell back w/ a more viable veteran free agent brought on.

84 Larry Donnell - K
85 Daniel Fells - K
81 Adrien Robinson - G


Offensive Linemen: - Jerry will be back. Think Walton will be back as well. Think we draft a top end OT with our pick, move pugh back in and richburg to Center.

65 William Beatty - K
67 Justin Pugh - K
73 James Brewer - G
77 John Jerry - G
70 Weston Richburg - K
75 Brandon Mosley - G
74 Geoff Schwartz - K
68 Adam Snyder - G
79 Rogers Gaines - G
62 Eric Herman - G
55 J.D. Walton - G
61 Dallas Reynolds - G


Defensive Linemen: Take off the right price, JPP is going to get paid, not what we thought after 2011 but like a top end DE in the league. Kuhn stays - Kiwi and Patterson are gone

90 Jason Pierre-Paul - K (At the right price)
98 Damontre Moore - K
72 Kerry Wynn - K
99 Cullen Jenkins - K
95 Johnathan Hankins - K
93 Mike Patterson - G
78 Markus Kuhn - G
96 Jay Bromley - K
94 Mathias Kiwanuka - G
91 Robert Ayers - K


Linebackers: Herzlich not going anywhere, likely will be relegated to specials but wouldnt be surprised if he ended up seeing the field on 1st - 3rd either.

57 Jacquian Williams - K
53 Jameel McClain - K
59 Devon Kennard - K
52 Jon Beason - K
97 Terrell Manning - G
54 Spencer Paysinger - G
58 Mark Herzlich - G
46 James Davidson - G
71 Paul Hazel - G


Defensive Backs: Rolle gone, too much$$. Fenner as PS or ST fodder. Demps back to provide depth

21 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - K
31 Zack Bowman - K
28 Jayron Hosley - G
48 Chandler Fenner - G
37 Mike Harris - G
39 Chykie Brown - G
26 Antrel Rolle - K (At the right price)
35 Quintin Demps - G
27 Stevie Brown - G
24 Walter Thurmond - K
38 Trumaine McBride - K
20 Prince Amukamara - K
30 Cooper Taylor - K
34 Nat Berhe - K


Kickers and Snappers: All good here

5 Steve Weatherford - K
3 Josh Brown - K
51 Zak DeOssie - K

Three major items for me this offseason are 1)draft a blue chip OT, make the moves on the line I suggested 2)Sign JPP back (hopefully at Top 5-10 money and let Rolle walk unless its on a mutually beneficial deal 3) Go get Suhhhhhhhh

.... will at least be invited to camp and that a number of them will likely stick. Some of this is wishful thinking.

I disagree with a lot of what you've got, but that's what makes for good discussion. I'm going to respond as though everyone were under contract (since I don't really know everyone's full contract status).

I would definitely be bringing Parker back. Randle too. You need to have guys who are ready to contribute, and these guys both are. Randle hasn't given us a return on the investment, but that's because we invested so much in him, not because he can't contribute. If he'd been an undrafted rookie free agent we'd be thrilled with the value he provides. Case in point: you want to keep Washington over him even though he's proved to be far more productive than Washington has. Same thing with Jernigan. He'd at least make it to camp.

I'd also be bringing back Robinson - but on a short leash, and I would still be looking at finding more talent for the TE position.

Mosely would stay, as would Jerry and Brewer. I'd be signing 2-3 more vets though to compete and draft at least 2 more OL (only 1 high).

Don't disagree with your DL G/K with maybe the exception of Patterson. I'd probably bring him in to camp if I could. Kiwi could only stay if he took vet min.

I'd bring back Peysinger and Herzlich as you need about 9 backers anyway.

Chykie Brown is a definite keeper for me. He's young, has speed, and should continue to improve. I don't think he's played too terribly either.

The rest of your assessment is okay, imo.

only 4 OL being kept ... granted the talent is not the greatest ... but the street FA and next year rookies would even be worse ... fill in the 5th with an expensive FA like Baas or Schwartz who'll rapidly find the IR ...

on Randle....you have him for the last year of his rookie contract....maybe the light goes on in a contract year for him?

Unless you have a replacement for Parker, I'd keep him......Washington has showed he can play against scrubs.....he has to play against starters in preseason, and show he deserves to be here....

Unfortunately, I don't think you can fully clean house on the OL......we definitely need a MINIMUM of one starter, and better backups......and the 4 starters we have, are average at best....

We Need a good RB, who can stay on the field......not sure Donnell and Fells are the answer.....we need a blocking TE, who can catch an occasional pass....

JW? No....even have to question Beason's health.....McClain is slow.....

If we do not re-sign Rolle(we still need an upgrade over him), we have no safeties on this roster.....

Need DT's, DE's.....I think JPP is gone....

Can Cruz come back? Will he be on PUP for half the season?

Just a lot of holes on this team.....

I don't want Bowman back.....

that will improve the team?

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I hope he a goner. Why anyone thinks he is worth keeping is puzzling.

Randle, Marcus Harris, Robinson. - Harris flashed in training camp until injuries put him on IR. Robinson is our best blocking tight end and does have a lot of talent.

Mosley, Walton and Herman. - They all can fill backup roles.

Kuhn - Run stopper

Paysinger - Smart, doesn't make mistakes

Both Browns, Rolle. - Until we can find someone better.

I think Rolle is gone.

I'm a fan of his and I'd prefer he stayed but it's just a gut feeling I have.

Kevin Ogletree?

What has Cory done to be kept and what has Kevin done to be gone???

Is a run stopper. When and where? Ten yards down the field. The guy is awful.

he has the goods (but hasn't shown it), on the last year of his contract and will be asked to be the 3rd WR. Who is the heck is cutting him? I'll agree that 2015 might be his last year with the Giants but it makes no sense to cut him before May of 2016.

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In comment 12036386 arcarsenal said:

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I think Rolle is gone. I'm a fan of his and I'd prefer he stayed but it's just a gut feeling I have.

Arc, I think Rolle's future depends on if there are any real good offers from other teams. I don't think there will be though. His 2014 campaign was not impressive. We may get him back for cheaper.

In comment 12036355 yupbjac27 said:

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Three major items for me this offseason are 1)draft a blue chip OT, make the moves on the line I suggested 2)Sign JPP back (hopefully at Top 5-10 money and let Rolle walk unless its on a mutually beneficial deal 3) Go get Suhhhhhhhh

So far, there are no blue chip OTs in this draft, nor do we need an OLT in the first round. JPP and Rolle are strictly cost-benefit decisions. Suh ain't happening under any realistic circumstances, nor should ne. Poor use of resources.

Hillis, Randle and Herzlich all can play a role and allow you more flexibility come draft time.

I do agree with most of the thread starters Gones, though...were to get 39 or what have you, players...

In comment 12036436 BMac said:

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In comment 12036355 yupbjac27 said: Quote: Three major items for me this offseason are 1)draft a blue chip OT, make the moves on the line I suggested 2)Sign JPP back (hopefully at Top 5-10 money and let Rolle walk unless its on a mutually beneficial deal 3) Go get Suhhhhhhhh So far, there are no blue chip OTs in this draft, nor do we need an OLT in the first round. JPP and Rolle are strictly cost-benefit decisions. Suh ain't happening under any realistic circumstances, nor should ne. Poor use of resources.

There arent any blue chip OT's (Ogbuehi, Scherff)? And even if your incorrect statement were correct, there are some talents that are better suited at the position than what we are doing now and what Pugh is going to be at OT. JPP is not a cost benefit situation, he is going to wear blue/red next year and will be paid like a top 5-10 DE. Rolle I agree. As for Suh, it's not a poor use of resources, hes a game changing interior lineman which when teamed with Hankins would be a dynamic duo on a team that has terrible troubles in the center of the field (from line to secondary).

If he is a poor use of resources, please let me know what would be a better use?

That said, most of the controversy seems to revolve around a very small number of players. Of these, a few could either play major roles or be gone:

Pierre-Paul (50-50; not under contract)
Randle (Probably here)
Rolle (Probably gone; not under contract)
Beason (No clue)
Walton (No clue)

The rest of the close calls aren't really that important:
Jenkins
Hynoski (not under contract)
Brown (not under contract)
Robinson
Mosley
Jerry (not under contract)
Fells (not under contract)
Herzlinger (not under contract - two LBs, worth one line)
Hosley
etc.
etc.
etc.

They may ask him for a paycut but they'll want him in camp.

I don't get it. Must be a great practice and meeting guy. Same with guys like Herzlich and Paysinger. Some of these will make the roster not based on talent but factors like how much coaches love them. Kuhn looks like he should be a beast but it doesn't translate in games.

Some of the G you had are signed for cheap contracts which until after the FA and draft periods will more than likely remain. The JPP issue is going to be a big problem not sure what his value is to the team or league wide. Rolle could be a very good indication of what if any hope this team has of winning soon, if he is quick to sign elsewhere then our secondary is in rebuild deep mode very early. Kuhn and Patterson not sure how they made the team from camp to this point. Why we are still holding on them is a concern from a move forward and future development of other young players.

In truth I can't see how we don't bring RR back unless he is traded NE would love to have a WR with his talent. As for all the other hurt or Ogletree and Parker if we can't replace them easily then it's another nightmare at WR next year. Cruz is a big mystery no one knows if or when he will return so it's not wise to count on him when making WR decisions. Washington has wasted a season on the bench for some reason or he is just not any good another team secret.
Damn guys let's be honest we have no idea what direction this team is going in the near future so it's almost impossible to predict who will come and go.

Based on his being a solid KO return man who is as good as most 5th WRs in the league.

It is pretty easy to judge the roster based on performance but who stays and who leaves depends more on the $$ and length of a guy's contract compared to performance.

You can't just dump a guy because his performance is average or less than average because then you have to rely on draft picks and overpriced free agents to fill out your roster. Either that or bring in a JAG who doesn't know the system to replace a JAG who does know the system.

In comment 12036321 ECham said:

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is not un useable as a 5th WR/Kick Returner/ ST player

Parker is replaceable. Harris beat him out and will be back next year. I disagree on the following;
Randle k wr
Harris k wr
Robinson k te
Herman k g
Walton k c
Snyder k g
Kuhn k dt
Rolle g ss
Fenner k s
Brown k s

Keep Ogletree.

He has the most experience of all our WRs including Cruz, plus he can play specials.

He'd be some I think they'd want in camp as a depth player. Harris is sure to be back. Walton, too. Even if he's a backup he'd be a very good backup and given the Giants injury woes he's a good insurance policy.

Quarterbacks:

10 Eli Manning - K
9 Ryan Nassib - K


Halfbacks:

23 Rashad Jennings - K
44 Andre Williams - K
43 Orleans Darkwa - G
47 Chris Ogbonnaya - G
29 Michael Cox - G
33 Peyton Hillis - K ( Hard Runner good 3rd RB, still need another guy )


Fullbacks:

45 Henry Hynoski - K


Wide Receivers:

82 Rueben Randle - K/G - (flashes but can run the right route...keep if we dont bring in another WR.)
13 Odell Beckham - K
83 Preston Parker - G (drops)
80 Victor Cruz - K
12 Jerrel Jernigan - GGGGG
18 Marcus Harris - G
15 Kevin Ogletree - G
88 Corey Washington - K


Tight Ends/H-Backs:

84 Larry Donnell - G (fumblitis)
85 Daniel Fells - K ( good run blocker )
81 Adrien Robinson - G (useless)


Offensive Linemen:

65 William Beatty - K
67 Justin Pugh - K
73 James Brewer - G ( never developed)
77 John Jerry - G (trash, sloooww)
70 Weston Richburg - K
75 Brandon Mosley - G ( never developed )
74 Geoff Schwartz - K
68 Adam Snyder - K ( played well when he saw the field)
79 Rogers Gaines - G
62 Eric Herman - G
55 J.D. Walton - K ( as backup)
61 Dallas Reynolds - G


Defensive Linemen:

90 Jason Pierre-Paul - K (At the right price)
98 Damontre Moore - K
72 Kerry Wynn - K
99 Cullen Jenkins - K
95 Johnathan Hankins - K
93 Mike Patterson - G
78 Markus Kuhn - GGGGG
96 Jay Bromley - K
94 Mathias Kiwanuka - G (love to have him back at vet min.)
91 Robert Ayers - K


Linebackers:

57 Jacquian Williams - K
53 Jameel McClain - K
59 Devon Kennard - K
52 Jon Beason - K
97 Terrell Manning - G
54 Spencer Paysinger - G/k (ST)
58 Mark Herzlich - G/k (ST)
46 James Davidson - G
71 Paul Hazel - G


Defensive Backs:

21 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - K
31 Zack Bowman - K
28 Jayron Hosley - GGGGG
48 Chandler Fenner - G
37 Mike Harris - G
39 Chykie Brown - K (depth/ST)
26 Antrel Rolle - K (At the right price)
35 Quintin Demps - K ( unless better player is brought in)
27 Stevie Brown - K
24 Walter Thurmond - K
38 Trumaine McBride - K
20 Prince Amukamara - K
30 Cooper Taylor - K
34 Nat Berhe - K


Kickers and Snappers:

5 Steve Weatherford - K
3 Josh Brown - K
51 Zak DeOssie - K

In comment 12036449 yupbjac27 said:

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In comment 12036436 BMac said: Quote: In comment 12036355 yupbjac27 said: Quote: Three major items for me this offseason are 1)draft a blue chip OT, make the moves on the line I suggested 2)Sign JPP back (hopefully at Top 5-10 money and let Rolle walk unless its on a mutually beneficial deal 3) Go get Suhhhhhhhh So far, there are no blue chip OTs in this draft, nor do we need an OLT in the first round. JPP and Rolle are strictly cost-benefit decisions. Suh ain't happening under any realistic circumstances, nor should ne. Poor use of resources. There arent any blue chip OT's (Ogbuehi, Scherff)? And even if your incorrect statement were correct, there are some talents that are better suited at the position than what we are doing now and what Pugh is going to be at OT. JPP is not a cost benefit situation, he is going to wear blue/red next year and will be paid like a top 5-10 DE. Rolle I agree. As for Suh, it's not a poor use of resources, hes a game changing interior lineman which when teamed with Hankins would be a dynamic duo on a team that has terrible troubles in the center of the field (from line to secondary). If he is a poor use of resources, please let me know what would be a better use?

Ogbuehi, Scherff are seen as Guards, not Tackles at the NFL level. As for the rest of your garbled message, try writing it in English and I'll get back to you.

By the way, Suh is going to be looking for QB money; if you don't understand why that's a foolish investment, I have some stocks I'd like to dump on you.

has not played much due to injury, but when he did I thought he played well. He pulled and handled secondary blocks well. He might be a keeper, at least quality depth. Did anyone else get this impression?

In comment 12036593 BMac said:

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In comment 12036449 yupbjac27 said: Quote: In comment 12036436 BMac said: Quote: In comment 12036355 yupbjac27 said: Quote: Three major items for me this offseason are 1)draft a blue chip OT, make the moves on the line I suggested 2)Sign JPP back (hopefully at Top 5-10 money and let Rolle walk unless its on a mutually beneficial deal 3) Go get Suhhhhhhhh So far, there are no blue chip OTs in this draft, nor do we need an OLT in the first round. JPP and Rolle are strictly cost-benefit decisions. Suh ain't happening under any realistic circumstances, nor should ne. Poor use of resources. There arent any blue chip OT's (Ogbuehi, Scherff)? And even if your incorrect statement were correct, there are some talents that are better suited at the position than what we are doing now and what Pugh is going to be at OT. JPP is not a cost benefit situation, he is going to wear blue/red next year and will be paid like a top 5-10 DE. Rolle I agree. As for Suh, it's not a poor use of resources, hes a game changing interior lineman which when teamed with Hankins would be a dynamic duo on a team that has terrible troubles in the center of the field (from line to secondary). If he is a poor use of resources, please let me know what would be a better use? Ogbuehi, Scherff are seen as Guards, not Tackles at the NFL level. As for the rest of your garbled message, try writing it in English and I'll get back to you. By the way, Suh is going to be looking for QB money; if you don't understand why that's a foolish investment, I have some stocks I'd like to dump on you.

Where do you get this stuff. Neither of those OTs, who are listed as top OT prospects, will play guard. Then you combine a grammar criitique with a financial investment joke. Top it off with a rediculous statement that Suh is going to get top qb money and BOOM, grade A clown. Try understanding it in English, message board troll

Quarterbacks:

10 Eli Manning - K
9 Ryan Nassib - K


Halfbacks:

23 Rashad Jennings - K
44 Andre Williams - K
43 Orleans Darkwa - G
47 Chris Ogbonnaya - G
29 Michael Cox - G
33 Peyton Hillis - G


Fullbacks:

45 Henry Hynoski - K


Wide Receivers:

82 Rueben Randle - G if we were to sign another vet wr
13 Odell Beckham - K
83 Preston Parker - K
80 Victor Cruz - K
12 Jerrel Jernigan - G
18 Marcus Harris - K
15 Kevin Ogletree - G
88 Corey Washington - K


Tight Ends/H-Backs:

84 Larry Donnell - K
85 Daniel Fells - G
81 Adrien Robinson - K


Offensive Linemen:

65 William Beatty - K
67 Justin Pugh - K
73 James Brewer - G
77 John Jerry - G
70 Weston Richburg - K
75 Brandon Mosley - G
74 Geoff Schwartz - K
68 Adam Snyder - G
79 Rogers Gaines - K
62 Eric Herman - G
55 J.D. Walton - K as backup
61 Dallas Reynolds - G


Defensive Linemen:

90 Jason Pierre-Paul - K (At the right price)under $11mil/ yr I keep but hes moving to LDE
98 Damontre Moore - K
72 Kerry Wynn - K
99 Cullen Jenkins - K
95 Johnathan Hankins - K
93 Mike Patterson - G
78 Markus Kuhn - G
96 Jay Bromley - K
94 Mathias Kiwanuka - G
91 Robert Ayers - K


Linebackers:

57 Jacquian Williams - K
53 Jameel McClain - K
59 Devon Kennard - K
52 Jon Beason - K
97 Terrell Manning - G
54 Spencer Paysinger - G
58 Mark Herzlich - G
46 James Davidson - G
71 Paul Hazel - G


Defensive Backs:

21 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - K
31 Zack Bowman - K
28 Jayron Hosley - G
48 Chandler Fenner - G
37 Mike Harris - G
39 Chykie Brown - K
26 Antrel Rolle - K (At the right price)
35 Quintin Demps - G or K
27 Stevie Brown - G or K whoever's cheeper
24 Walter Thurmond - K
38 Trumaine McBride - K
20 Prince Amukamara - K
30 Cooper Taylor - K
34 Nat Berhe - K


Kickers and Snappers:

5 Steve Weatherford - K
3 Josh Brown - K
51 Zak DeOssie - K

Feel free to add your

at least not until his rookie contract runs out.

Quarterbacks:

10 Eli Manning - KEEP
9 Ryan Nassib - KEEP, maybe trade if we get an offer that can't be refused (like a 1st or early 2nd rounder)

Halfbacks:

23 Rashad Jennings - KEEP
44 Andre Williams - KEEP
43 Orleans Darkwa - GONE, but he's practice squad anyway
47 Chris Ogbonnaya - GONE, also practice squad type
29 Michael Cox - KEEP at least for training camp
33 Peyton Hillis - GONE, probably retiring


Fullbacks:

45 Henry Hynoski - KEEP

Wide Receivers:

82 Rueben Randle - KEEP, hopefully he sees Odell and gets his ass in gear
13 Odell Beckham - Is this even a question? KEEP
83 Preston Parker - KEEP unless we draft a receiver high (like Amari)
80 Victor Cruz - KEEP, he'll be back from the injury
12 Jerrel Jernigan - GONE
18 Marcus Harris - GONE
15 Kevin Ogletree - GONE
88 Corey Washington - KEEP, he has some decent skills

Tight Ends/H-Backs:

84 Larry Donnell - KEEP
85 Daniel Fells - KEEP at least for camp, maybe we draft a better TE than Fells who plays right away
81 Adrien Robinson - A Reese bust, GONE

Offensive Linemen:

65 William Beatty - KEEP, we have no replacement here unless we draft one
67 Justin Pugh - KEEP, obviously
73 James Brewer - GONE, obviously
77 John Jerry - GONE
70 Weston Richburg - KEEP, obviously
75 Brandon Mosley - GONE
74 Geoff Schwartz - KEEP, but he has to stay healthy
68 Adam Snyder - GONE
79 Rogers Gaines - GONE
62 Eric Herman - KEEP, let's see if he can develop
55 J.D. Walton - GONE for sure
61 Dallas Reynolds - GONE

Defensive Linemen:

90 Jason Pierre-Paul - KEEP unless he demands Watt or Suh money
98 Damontre Moore - KEEP
72 Kerry Wynn - KEEP at least for camp
99 Cullen Jenkins - GONE, I think we either sign a younger DT, possibly even Suh at the right price
95 Johnathan Hankins - KEEP, he's gonna be a beast
93 Mike Patterson - GONE
78 Markus Kuhn - KEEP at least for camp, but he probably gets cut in camp
96 Jay Bromley - KEEP, but he needs reps
94 Mathias Kiwanuka - GONE, thanks for the 2 rings though, but Kiwi is out of gas
91 Robert Ayers - KEEP without a doubt

Linebackers:

57 Jacquian Williams - GONE, I don't think he's up to snuff
53 Jameel McClain - KEEP, just as a vet
59 Devon Kennard - KEEP, future of the LB corps
52 Jon Beason - GONE, always injured (and I like Beason)
97 Terrell Manning - GONE
54 Spencer Paysinger - KEEP, we need him for specials
58 Mark Herzlich - GONE
46 James Davidson - GONE
71 Paul Hazel - GONE


Defensive Backs:

21 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - KEEP, he's shown a lot more fight in losing circumstances than his rep indicated
31 Zack Bowman - GONE just for that business decision in Seattle
28 Jayron Hosley - GONE, another Reese bust
48 Chandler Fenner - KEEP at least for camp
37 Mike Harris - KEEP at least for camp
39 Chykie Brown - GONE
26 Antrel Rolle - KEEP but he's going to have to take a massive pay cut because he's getting towards Deon Grant veteran territory (slowing down)
35 Quintin Demps - GONE
27 Stevie Brown - KEEP, hopefully he returns to form and the injury was the thing that set him back
24 Walter Thurmond - KEEP
38 Trumaine McBride - KEEP
20 Prince Amukamara - KEEP, and in fact wrap his contract up early
30 Cooper Taylor - KEEP, he could be a beast if he stays healthy
34 Nat Berhe - KEEP, we have to see what he has

Kickers and Snappers:

5 Steve Weatherford - KEEP, a top 10 punter
3 Josh Brown - KEEP unless a top kicker becomes a FA
51 Zak DeOssie - KEEP

FA targets: Iupati OR Franklin, Suh, KJ Wright, possibly McCourty

think Randle gets traded on draft day.To unreliablle and patience is wearing thin.

would you assume Marcus Harris is gone? Before he got hurt, he was vying for s starting spot.

Fewell - G

My prediction is:

Coughlin - K
McAdoo - K

I know that Jennings and Williams are staying but I think another RB is needed, particularly one with speed.

In his limited spots he is showing flashes of some talent. Yes, we've waited three years on him. His first two years were a joke with injuries and missing OTA's. This year, he stayed healthy and had to learn a new offense. I have a feeling we'll having a superb One/Two punch in Donnell and Robinson next year with a veteran TE like Fells coming back as well. Fells will come cheap, he knows the offense now and I just don't see a HUGE upgrade coming if in fact the Giants feel Robinson will blossom.

Donnell will get better too btw.

Worst looking mohawk possible.

but you have way too many kickers and guards.

we are not bringing back only 3 WRs out of the entire group for next season, especially because we don't know if VC will be back 100% and Washington is still pretty green. Randle will be back for sure because we don't lose anything by keeping him. I also vote for Preston Parker to be back, assuming he works on his route running in the offseason. Is Jernigan still on the roster?

Kuhn is safe. He seems to be a coach favorite for some reason.

1) Unrestricted Free Agents (Rolle, Pierre-Paul, Thurmond, Brown, Williams, Hynoski, Jernigan, etc.);
2) Restricted Free Agents (none of importance);
3) Potential cap casualties (Kiwanuka, Beason, Jenkins, McBride, Walton, etc.).

The third category has two parts: Guys like Beason and McBride who require immediate attention because they have new money coming in the offseason; and guys like Kiwanuka, Walton and Jenkins whose salaries may exceed their likely value.

The players who remain from the 2012 draft class are basically irrelevant to this discussion until August. They are signed through 2015, at modest salaries. Even Jayron Hosley might hang around a while, because there isn't a better use for the last spot on the offseason roster. Why cut Brandon Mosley or Adrien Robinson or Markus Kuhn? Why even think about cutting Rueben Randle?

to pass on less then Blue Chip OL. Just look at the fact that John Jerry is still getting snaps.

In comment 12036423 JohnB said:

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he has the goods (but hasn't shown it), on the last year of his contract and will be asked to be the 3rd WR. Who is the heck is cutting him? I'll agree that 2015 might be his last year with the Giants but it makes no sense to cut him before May of 2016.

Unless Eli and the coaches really, really can't stand the guy and have given up on him.

all your players have to be above average. You can win with a bunch of average guys on the roster. An average NFL player is a helluva player. But you need a bunch of very good and Pro Bowl and elite level-guys around them. The question is going to be: Where are those very good to elite players? Answer that question and you know which average players you can keep and which you need to dump.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/15/2014 7:57 pm : link : reply
would you assume Marcus Harris is gone? Before he got hurt, he was vying for s starting spot.


I second that, we need better depth at WR to compliment OBJ and Vic...and this guy brings good work ethic to the table unlike another player wearing blue does.

In comment 12036602 Gregorio said:

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has not played much due to injury, but when he did I thought he played well. He pulled and handled secondary blocks well. He might be a keeper, at least quality depth. Did anyone else get this impression?

Absolutely.