I like the BB approach. Paraphrasing but the gist was the players bust their asses year round, on the field. in practice, meeting rooms, watching film, in the weight room etc. So why not let them celebrate when their hard work pays off.
I have no issue with a player celebrating within the limits of the game.
getting annoyed by the sack dances, especially in games where we are losing.
I would have been fine with cutting Moore outright after he danced (with a live ball on the ground in a game they were losing) against the Colts. Dancing in that situation just shows an enormous lack of awareness about the game and even that particular play.
but I gotta give Cruz credit - he created a phenomenon with the salsa. As Tuck said during America's Game, "The salsa's been around forever, but now it's the Victor Cruz dance." NBC even started playing salsa music when he scored a TD in SB46.
Orchestrated celebration doesn't sit well with me, but natural exuberance is fine. Celebrate, but a stupid dance or some other pre-planned crap?
Difference of opinion, I have no issue with it. As long as they're doing their job first which if they are in the end zone they likely have.
Also orchestrated is reaching. Was Cruz in the locker room or practice feld practicing his celebration? No, it was suggested by his position coach at the time and he went with it. No need to over think these things.
How can you be against fun. Call me crazy but I find them entertaining and isn't football a form of entertainment. Ok I get celebrating after each first down can be doing too much but being against celebrating a TD or a big sack I don't have a problem with. I want so see many many whip dances from Beckham and hopefully more salsa from Cruz for years to come
why this bothers some so much. Football is a game and the NFL is football played at the highest level by 20-something year old kids.
It's entertainment, and it's a form of entertainment where any of these guys could be forcibly retired on any one play or hit. It's an emotional game. Football is about as primal an event as you can have before the law steps in.
How can you be against fun. Call me crazy but I find them entertaining and isn't football a form of entertainment. Ok I get celebrating after each first down can be doing too much but being against celebrating a TD or a big sack I don't have a problem with. I want so see many many whip dances from Beckham and hopefully more salsa from Cruz for years to come
I know some people moan and mock the NFL as the "No Fun League" but then turn around and complain about their own players celebrating touchdowns.
The Whip is awesome. He always leads it off with something different. Spinning the ball and warming his hands on it was my shit.
He's a young kid lighting the world on fire right now and he's enjoying it. There are like ten billion other things in the world to be annoyed about. Lighten up.
As a slow white guy, one of my collegiate highlights was playing a night game in the mud with my friends. The field was a mess, but I had better transaction because I was wearing some old cleats. I put on this 90 degree angle move that caused everyone to go sliding one way as a I returned a punt for a TD.
After I got the end zone, I did White Shoe's dance you posted above.
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not saying players shouldn't celebrate...just seems weird to me to do this pre-planned stuff. Love Cruz, but never been a fan of his little dance.
That Salsa dance he did after scoring the 99 yard TD against the Jets running right towards the end zone I was sitting in and salsa'ing in front of me was one of the coolest moments of my sports life.
That Salsa dance he did after scoring the 99 yard TD against the Jets running right towards the end zone I was sitting in and salsa'ing in front of me was one of the coolest moments of my sports life.
That was probably the best one he's done.. just because he wound up and flung the ball as hard as he could right into the wall before he did it. It just felt like the collective frustration of every Giant fan from that game to that point and the Redskins game before it and just the up and down nature of that entire season.. finally being released.
sure how choreographed dancing by men = fun. To me, it's more emotional to how the Giants receivers reacted when Mario Manningham scored in the 2011 NFL Championship Game.
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As a slow white guy, one of my collegiate highlights was playing a night game in the mud with my friends. The field was a mess, but I had better transaction because I was wearing some old cleats. I put on this 90 degree angle move that caused everyone to go sliding one way as a I returned a punt for a TD.
After I got the end zone, I did White Shoe's dance you posted above.
I guess I'm a hypocrite!
Hey, there's people on here that don't want ODB returning punts. What's your 40 time?
sure how choreographed dancing by men = fun. To me, it's more emotional to how the Giants receivers reacted when Mario Manningham scored in the 2011 NFL Championship Game.
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you're not sure why dancing is fun? scoring a TD in front of 80,000 people live, hundreds of thousands of people around the world is a huge rush - some people celebrate by spiking the ball, some people hand the ball to the ref, some people do the geigh white bavaro/mcaffrey pickup and some people salsa/whip/twerk/rhino - you said yourself in this thread that you busted out a touchdown dance during a pickup game lol why did you dance then?
you just said yourself earlier in this thread that you broke out a dance after your own pickup game TD lol!
I'm pretty sure he's not taking time from his day to write up a set list of all the dances he's going to do for each game.
pre-meditated i think is the better word. but to your point, i don't think players spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about their celebrations...and let's face it, players have a short shelf life and want to maximize their earnings as they should...if they can get noticed by some sort of unique TD dance, then all the power to them....would cruz have the sponsorships he has today if he didn't salsa?
... Brandon Jacobs firing firing the ball at the play clock in Texas Stadium (and breaking a light on it maybe?). I still remember that thud echoing throughout the stadium.
Fitz just hands the ball to the ref and walks back or did when I coached him score. I like that. I have seen players just place the ball in the endzone and walk away. That's classy.
sure how choreographed dancing by men = fun. To me, it's more emotional to how the Giants receivers reacted when Mario Manningham scored in the 2011 NFL Championship Game.
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God I miss meaningful playoff games like that one. Such an awesome moment watching that.
As an aside I always found the dance that Jacobs tended to do on the Dallas star hilarious.
It is probably in the top 10 of celebrations by receivers all time. It became huge in 2011 and drives opposing dans nuts. Look at Philly radio personality Mike Missanelli telling Giants' fans to dance to Cruz getting hurt all because of Eagle fans are butt hurt iger Cruz doing the dance when he scores. It also honors his heritage.
Me too. Act like you've been there.
I've got no problems with celebrating though...these guys work their asses off to have a career that is fleeting.
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touchdown dances are stupid.
Me too. Act like you've been there.
I like the BB approach. Paraphrasing but the gist was the players bust their asses year round, on the field. in practice, meeting rooms, watching film, in the weight room etc. So why not let them celebrate when their hard work pays off.
I have no issue with a player celebrating within the limits of the game.
I would have been fine with cutting Moore outright after he danced (with a live ball on the ground in a game they were losing) against the Colts. Dancing in that situation just shows an enormous lack of awareness about the game and even that particular play.
Difference of opinion, I have no issue with it. As long as they're doing their job first which if they are in the end zone they likely have.
Also orchestrated is reaching. Was Cruz in the locker room or practice feld practicing his celebration? No, it was suggested by his position coach at the time and he went with it. No need to over think these things.
But I hope I continue to see it's god awfulness three times a game.
It's entertainment, and it's a form of entertainment where any of these guys could be forcibly retired on any one play or hit. It's an emotional game. Football is about as primal an event as you can have before the law steps in.
I know some people moan and mock the NFL as the "No Fun League" but then turn around and complain about their own players celebrating touchdowns.
He's a young kid lighting the world on fire right now and he's enjoying it. There are like ten billion other things in the world to be annoyed about. Lighten up.
After I got the end zone, I did White Shoe's dance you posted above.
I guess I'm a hypocrite!
Cam in MO is packing his bags.
A simple spike is OK and I'm also OK with the Bradshaw jump spike.
Of course Jacobs breaking Dallas' 45 second clock was a classic too.
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not saying players shouldn't celebrate...just seems weird to me to do this pre-planned stuff. Love Cruz, but never been a fan of his little dance.
more white players?
I've seen other players try the same dance, and OBJ still does it better than them.
Oh wait this is actually football, a game played by 20 something year old millionaires for the enjoyment of wasted fans.
That was probably the best one he's done.. just because he wound up and flung the ball as hard as he could right into the wall before he did it. It just felt like the collective frustration of every Giant fan from that game to that point and the Redskins game before it and just the up and down nature of that entire season.. finally being released.
Plus, it was the Jets.
Oh wait this is actually football, a game played by 20 something year old millionaires for the enjoyment of wasted fans.
Kellen Winslow would disagree, brosef. He's a f'ing soldier...and they're out there to kill him.
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for those who complain about touchdown dances, lighten up. football is entertainment and it's harmless fun.
Middle aged Korean guys love dancing?
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After I got the end zone, I did White Shoe's dance you posted above.
I guess I'm a hypocrite!
Hey, there's people on here that don't want ODB returning punts. What's your 40 time?
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most of those who are opposed to these "preplanned" celebrations are middle-aged white guys. Gotcha.
Middle aged Korean guys love dancing?
Yep...I heard that they do. Thankfully I'm not yet middle aged. But I don't have a source for you, so my apology.
There's something spontaneous about it not like this other choreographed shit.
#44 knew how to spike the ball. I still miss that guy.
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you're not sure why dancing is fun? scoring a TD in front of 80,000 people live, hundreds of thousands of people around the world is a huge rush - some people celebrate by spiking the ball, some people hand the ball to the ref, some people do the geigh white bavaro/mcaffrey pickup and some people salsa/whip/twerk/rhino - you said yourself in this thread that you busted out a touchdown dance during a pickup game lol why did you dance then?
you just said yourself earlier in this thread that you broke out a dance after your own pickup game TD lol!
pre-meditated i think is the better word. but to your point, i don't think players spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about their celebrations...and let's face it, players have a short shelf life and want to maximize their earnings as they should...if they can get noticed by some sort of unique TD dance, then all the power to them....would cruz have the sponsorships he has today if he didn't salsa?
That was a great moment...
But I hope I continue to see it's god awfulness three times a game.
Well, that sums up my feelings perfectly.
Well, other than calling him an it....
Love the Hyno. Hope he gets another chance to do it.
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Fitz just hands the ball to the ref and walks back or did when I coached him score. I like that. I have seen players just place the ball in the endzone and walk away. That's classy.
Old white guy here. I love the end zone celebrations, especially the spontaneous ones.
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God I miss meaningful playoff games like that one. Such an awesome moment watching that.
As an aside I always found the dance that Jacobs tended to do on the Dallas star hilarious.