Bring back Spags as the new DC Yes or No

It's a lazy and uninspired choice.

NO

I'd like him as dc.

In my opinion. I would be happy to have him back.

Spagnola will restore the NYG defense and bring the Lombardo back to the Metalands!!!! BRING BACK SAINT STEPHEN.

I vote "yes" 13 times.

If you are not in favor, how about suggesting someone else ?

In comment 12040085 arcarsenal said:

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Spagnola will restore the NYG defense and bring the Lombardo back to the Metalands!!!! BRING BACK SAINT STEPHEN. I vote "yes" 13 times.

I guess you must mean Steve Spagnuolo. I've never heard of this Spagnola guy.

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and uninspired so yes I would love him back

here. Will prime time Osi, Tuck, Strahan, Cofield and SB form Kawika Mitchell be coming back too? :-)

No fucking way to Rex Ryan.

going to be made a thread??

But I don't know who the hell would want to come here if the plan is for McAdoo to become the head coach.

What's he going to do,make him dye his hair brown and change his name to Dom.He's already trying to turn Eli into Aaron Rodgers.

How about Chuck Cecil..he's coaching DB's in St. Louis. He will definitely bring a aggressive defense.

In comment 12040098 GMANinDC said:

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going to be made a thread??

Why don't you start a thread asking that question?

Stray, Osi, and Tuck than good work by Spags should cough up the name of the CB starting opposite Corey Webster during the playoff run and SB win. Oh, and the nickle CB as well. Spags worked around some dog shit in his D-secondary.

So..

takes a ton of pressure off of the secondary.

He wasn't terrible.

In comment 12040109 BlueLou said:

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Stray, Osi, and Tuck than good work by Spags should cough up the name of the CB starting opposite Corey Webster during the playoff run and SB win. Oh, and the nickle CB as well. Spags worked around some dog shit in his D-secondary.

Geoffrey Pope or Poe

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He wasn't terrible.

And Aaron Ross played very well as a rookie

In comment 12040085 arcarsenal said:

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Spagnola will restore the NYG defense and bring the Lombardo back to the Metalands!!!! BRING BACK SAINT STEPHEN. I vote "yes" 13 times.

The GUY Lombardo Trophy - tiny bubbles

is how many games our D was being mauled in a first half and Spags making adjustments at half time to completely shut em down. Or was I dreaming?

In comment 12040119 Fast Eddie said:

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is how many games our D was being mauled in a first half and Spags making adjustments at half time to completely shut em down. Or was I dreaming?

See playoff game VS Cowboys

he may not be Belichick but he's an upgrade at DC.

In comment 12040109 BlueLou said:

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Stray, Osi, and Tuck than good work by Spags should cough up the name of the CB starting opposite Corey Webster during the playoff run and SB win. Oh, and the nickle CB as well. Spags worked around some dog shit in his D-secondary.

It helps when you have an excellent MIKE and a very good OLB along with an outstanding front four.

We won both Super Bowls the same way. The Front 4 was humming each time. Spags had better linebackers and Fewell had better DB's.

In comment 12040109 BlueLou said:

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Stray, Osi, and Tuck than good work by Spags should cough up the name of the CB starting opposite Corey Webster during the playoff run and SB win. Oh, and the nickle CB as well. Spags worked around some dog shit in his D-secondary.

Tim Lewis
2004 40 sacks
2005 41 sacks
2006 32 sacks





Spags
2007 53 sacks
2008 42 sacks




Prior to the 2007 season when Spags took over, this was our summary of moves in the off season.

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Position Player Free agency tag Date signed 2007 team Offensive guard Lewis Kelly UFA — (none) Center Ryan Kuehl UFA February 27 New York Giants Center Shaun O'Hara UFA March 1 New York Giants Center Grey Ruegamer UFA New York Giants Tight end Visanthe Shiancoe UFA March 4 Minnesota Vikings Outside linebacker Brandon Short UFA — (none) Outside linebacker Reggie Torbor RFA (4) May 3 New York Giants Cornerback Frank Walker UFA March 13 Green Bay Packers Running back Derrick Ward RFA (7) March 1 New York Giants Safety Gibril Wilson RFA (2) May 3 New York Giants[4] Draft Class[edit] Main article: 2007 NFL Draft Round Selection Player Position College 1 20 Aaron Ross Cornerback Texas 2 51 Steve Smith Wide Receiver USC 3 81 Jay Alford Defensive Tackle Penn State 4 116 Zak DeOssie Outside Linebacker Brown 5 153 Kevin Boss Tight End Western Oregon 6 189 Adam Koets Offensive Tackle Oregon State 7 224 Michael Johnson Safety Arizona 250 Ahmad Bradshaw Running Back Marshall

We basically had the same players on defense. We re-signed some guys, yet our sack total went up big time from 32 to 53.

Spags did a great job here for us. He took the DL and supplemented their pass rushing ability with good blitzes.

and Ross were hurt. One starting safety was Michael Johnson, too. I don't even remember the nickel CB.

And if you paid enough attention, you'd remember that that DL didn't get heat on opposing QBs all THAT often when rushing straight 4. Spags could dial up blitzes very well, and often did.

because of his looming retirement. Attracting coordinators MAY be more difficult in that situation (I personally think coaches don't care, they want those finite jobs) and if that's the case, Spags may be a legitimate choice.

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Well, he's smarter than I...

Madison played in the NFCC game and the Super Bowl. Ross played the entire playoffs. And there was McQuarters who also played the entire playoffs.

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but "excellent" as a starting Mike? errr, no. He wasn't physical, had trouble getting to the edge, and was a liability in pass coverage. I suppose he did lead the league in "pile ons after the play is over" if they keep that stat.


Seriously he was like having a coach on the field, but not much more than that.

You do realize bbi has absolutely no impact on decisions made right? You wrote now that he is gone like bbi got rid of him

Period. No wonder I forgot him.

So you are saying Pose didn't start? I don't think Madison played at all in the SB, maybe a few plays.

can a coach do this?
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They had to endure several injuries to DBs that year.

had the talent to work with. Everything fell into place for him. Not sure he can do it a second time.

were AP, Torbor and Mitchell. You had Michael Johnson and James Butler playing. Ross was a good blitzer out of the slot.

We had a good DL, but we maximized our potential on defense. That was fun to see. Ideally, I would love Rex Ryan as our DC when he gets fired, however, that's not happening.

I would love to see his defense implemented. I actually might start to have faith in our defense again.

1 great play makes a guy a stud at his position?

How many passes were caught with AP trailing in coverage over the middle, like 10 million?

You're short changing Pierce pretty bad. He was a very good player that year and he was sure as hell better than anything we've had in the middle since then. Unless you count like.. 6 games of Jon Beason in 2013.

And no, Pope didn't start. Ross and Webster did.

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from the HC down. I like to call it the culture of "unaccountability" in that you can f up and still keep your job, so why strive for excellence? The only guys that are released are the chosen scapegoats.

You guys are also forgetting about Gibril. He played well for us.

McQuarters was apparently the worst cover corner in the league, when he's merely mediocre. Ross was just ok. Pierce was a bum too.

In comment 12040165 arcarsenal said:

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You're short changing Pierce pretty bad. He was a very good player that year and he was sure as hell better than anything we've had in the middle since then. Unless you count like.. 6 games of Jon Beason in 2013. And no, Pope didn't start. Ross and Webster did.

The interesting thing about Pierce is that we were lucky to get him from the skins, I suspect that without him we do not win that first SB as we would have started some underachiever at his position. We got free talent evaluation from somebody else (Skins) at the LB position.

was his football IQ. It's not like he was athletic or some freak player. His football iQ was great and ability to get people lined up to make plays. There were times where he and the QB would go back and forth and change plays. It was great to watch.

Towards the end of his tenure BL remembers, when our fan base called him fat and slow. They made the same comments about JPP and his stomach, and ripped on AP.

But in general, AP was great for us. Not because he was an insane athletic, but because he was the general of the defense. Getting everyone lined up.

In comment 12040161 AnishPatel said:

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were AP, Torbor and Mitchell. You had Michael Johnson and James Butler playing. Ross was a good blitzer out of the slot. We had a good DL, but we maximized our potential on defense. That was fun to see. Ideally, I would love Rex Ryan as our DC when he gets fired, however, that's not happening. Bingo Anish, thanks. I would love to see his defense implemented. I actually might start to have faith in our defense again.

In comment 12040172 arcarsenal said:

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You guys are also forgetting about Gibril. He played well for us.

He did and blitzed too. I still remember him smacking the shit out of Brady in the super bowl.

At one point we were sending everyone from different spots. This would go on throughout the game..

DL pressure
Ross from the slot
LB A gap
and Gibril the Thrill Wilson creeping in and blitzing.

It was a fun defense to watch. He basically put Webster on the map. Webster was an average CB, who Tim Lewis would berate. Once Lewis left, and the scheme changed Webster was a damn good CB for us.

Those narratives about Pierce started in 2008 until he called it a career because of that disc injury in 2009. People really weren't saying he was fat and slow in 2007 and they sure weren't saying it when he was a pro bowl MIKE in 2006 and registered over 100 tackles.

He wasn't the most athletic guy but let's not act like he was Jonathan Goff with a headset and higher football IQ.