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Ralph.C : 12/17/2014 6:46 pm
An unbelievable catastrophe for the Bears. We should be kissing the ground Eli walks on.
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wow  
spike : 12/17/2014 6:48 pm : link
but probably not for long.
Cutler has been struggling  
David in LA : 12/17/2014 6:51 pm : link
but Clausen? Wow!
Jay  
AcidTest : 12/17/2014 6:55 pm : link
Cutler = Jeff George Part II.
well that just made my decision  
Giants11 : 12/17/2014 6:56 pm : link
Between him and Russel Wilson a lot easier for my fantasy championship
The Bears must miss  
MaineGiantFan : 12/17/2014 6:58 pm : link
McCown right about now
they should have signed  
spike : 12/17/2014 6:59 pm : link
Colt McCoy, who might be the Anti-Cutler
Don't these fools read Football Outsiders?  
oipolloi : 12/17/2014 7:04 pm : link
Cutler is way better than Eli
Morons  
Deej : 12/17/2014 7:05 pm : link
That coaching staff is punch drunk. Unprofessional and on the way out, they're just caving to media and fan pressure. There is no way that they have a better chance to win right now with Cutler on the bench. The scapegoating of Cutler is madness; you'd think he was having a Geno Smith season when in fact he's got a 28-18 ratio (his completion percentage is way down to 55% though).

And the Jeff George comparison is a fucking joke. Cutler has put in a workman like career. He's much more Drew Bledsoe than George.
Cutler  
RicFlair : 12/17/2014 7:13 pm : link
has always reminded me of Kerry Collins.
RE: Cutler has been struggling  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 12/17/2014 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12040365 David in LA said:
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but Clausen? Wow!


I'm a ND fan who loved Jimmy, but to get benched for him is a real low point.
I bet  
spike : 12/17/2014 7:16 pm : link
the Rams would love to have him right now at QB
link  
Bill in UT : 12/17/2014 7:17 pm : link
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RE: link  
Stephen in DC : 12/17/2014 7:20 pm : link
In comment 12040401 Bill in UT said:
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Cutler Benched - ( New Window )
Fantasy implications  
Stephen in DC : 12/17/2014 7:22 pm : link
Have to bench cutler for alex smith. Do i also bench alshon jeffrey for mike wallace? Brutal.
Always thought  
Metnut : 12/17/2014 7:39 pm : link
Jimmy would be a good NFL QB and he's never gotten a real chance. That Carolina situation was a mess. Hopefully he can do well and at least secure himself as a backup QB.
Cutler has always been average with some flashes  
illmatic : 12/17/2014 7:45 pm : link
and he always looks like he just doesn't give a shit. Like he'd rather be at the bar downing some drinks than out on the field competing. He's the type of QB you'll never win with. I still can't believe they gave him so much money.
Trestman will be the first head coach fired after the season  
HomerJones45 : 12/17/2014 7:50 pm : link
Cutler is an odd duck, but Trestman is a disaster.

Don't forget to also kiss the ground Tom Coughlin walks on.
Isn't Cutler's contract pretty close to pay-as-you-go?  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/17/2014 7:51 pm : link
His salary is very high, but IIRC they can cut him with relatively little cap overhang. So it's not really that big a catastrophe - financially. The real problem is that they have to find another QB.
RE: Morons  
HomerJones45 : 12/17/2014 7:52 pm : link
In comment 12040382 Deej said:
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That coaching staff is punch drunk. Unprofessional and on the way out, they're just caving to media and fan pressure. There is no way that they have a better chance to win right now with Cutler on the bench. The scapegoating of Cutler is madness; you'd think he was having a Geno Smith season when in fact he's got a 28-18 ratio (his completion percentage is way down to 55% though).

And the Jeff George comparison is a fucking joke. Cutler has put in a workman like career. He's much more Drew Bledsoe than George.
He's completing 66% of his passes this season and yes the coaching staff is high.
I'm sort of tempted to try and search for old BBI posts on Cutler.  
Riggies : 12/17/2014 7:55 pm : link
There were some glorious messes over the years, from what I recall.
RE: Cutler has always been average with some flashes  
CromartiesKid21 : 12/17/2014 7:56 pm : link
In comment 12040436 illmatic said:
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and he always looks like he just doesn't give a shit. Like he'd rather be at the bar downing some drinks than out on the field competing. He's the type of QB you'll never win with. I still can't believe they gave him so much money.

Of course the fool is diabetic as well
RE: Isn't Cutler's contract pretty close to pay-as-you-go?  
CromartiesKid21 : 12/17/2014 7:57 pm : link
In comment 12040443 Big Blue Blogger said:
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His salary is very high, but IIRC they can cut him with relatively little cap overhang. So it's not really that big a catastrophe - financially. The real problem is that they have to find another QB.

Not at all...Cutler is owed a fully guaranteed $15.5 million next year, the Bears only option is to trade Cutler this offseason if they want to move on from him. Chicago would absorb $19 million in dead money by releasing Cutler before 2016.
RE: Don't these fools read Football Outsiders?  
mattlawson : 12/17/2014 7:58 pm : link
In comment 12040378 oipolloi said:
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Cutler is way better than Eli


Ha! Incidentally -- how do PPF rankings compare?
So, for fantasy...  
SB : 12/17/2014 8:43 pm : link
which DST to you start, Detroit vs. Bears, or New England vs. Jets?
If you watched cutler play last week  
djm : 12/17/2014 8:52 pm : link
You would have benched him too. And I'm not even talking about his stats or overall play after the snap. I'm talking about his pre snap body language. This had to have been touched on in the game thread but I saw cutlet mouth the words "fuck me" or "oh fuck" during some audibles. Who does that? On numerous occasions cutler would yell out fuck me before changing the play at the line.

I don't care what his stats show. Cutler is a fucking mess out there.
RE: I'm sort of tempted to try and search for old BBI posts on Cutler.  
djm : 12/17/2014 8:54 pm : link
In comment 12040455 Riggies said:
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There were some glorious messes over the years, from what I recall.


Don't even get me started on that shit. Cutler was insanely overrated based on nothing more than arm strength.

Give me the guy with intangibles over cutler any day.
RE: So, for fantasy...  
djm : 12/17/2014 8:55 pm : link
In comment 12040521 SB said:
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which DST to you start, Detroit vs. Bears, or New England vs. Jets?


Pats. With extreme confidence.
RE: If you watched cutler play last week  
mattlawson : 12/17/2014 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12040533 djm said:
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You would have benched him too. And I'm not even talking about his stats or overall play after the snap. I'm talking about his pre snap body language. This had to have been touched on in the game thread but I saw cutlet mouth the words "fuck me" or "oh fuck" during some audibles. Who does that? On numerous occasions cutler would yell out fuck me before changing the play at the line.

I don't care what his stats show. Cutler is a fucking mess out there.


Wow
RE: RE: I'm sort of tempted to try and search for old BBI posts on Cutler.  
Riggies : 12/17/2014 9:26 pm : link
In comment 12040536 djm said:
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There were some glorious messes over the years, from what I recall.



Don't even get me started on that shit. Cutler was insanely overrated based on nothing more than arm strength.

Give me the guy with intangibles over cutler any day.


So I guess you wouldn't have traded Eli for Cutler back in 2009?

Bonus 850+ posts on... I'm not really sure, to be honest.
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yankees78 : 12/17/2014 9:37 pm : link
Those old threads are hilarious.
RE: Jay  
Giants2012 : 12/17/2014 9:47 pm : link
In comment 12040368 AcidTest said:
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Cutler = Jeff George Part II.


Great comparrison
Reading that Cutler thread is fascinating..  
Sean : 12/17/2014 10:00 pm : link
there is no doubt there are people that aren't huge Eli fans on this board, but even they have to look back and laugh at some of the names that he was compared to.

This is why QB is such a tough position to fill. Josh Freeman had a lot of upside. Matt Schaub was someone who he was compared to. There have been so many names that Eli has been compared to that have either stumbled or are out of the league now. It's funny.
RE: RE: RE: I'm sort of tempted to try and search for old BBI posts on Cutler.  
speedywheels : 12/17/2014 10:28 pm : link
In comment 12040575 Riggies said:
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In comment 12040455 Riggies said:


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There were some glorious messes over the years, from what I recall.



Don't even get me started on that shit. Cutler was insanely overrated based on nothing more than arm strength.

Give me the guy with intangibles over cutler any day.



So I guess you wouldn't have traded Eli for Cutler back in 2009?

Bonus 850+ posts on... I'm not really sure, to be honest.


Haha, figures Stan in LA would have traded Eli. One MORE thing he got wrong...
I think I look really smart on that old thread...  
SB : 12/17/2014 11:15 pm : link
...and I still don't understand why some BBIers always had so much love for Cutler.
Look at the people who said yeah  
dep026 : 12/17/2014 11:21 pm : link
Stan
Dave in DC
JOMO
Milton
Rockythompson

Need we go on?
He's had a bad year...  
MetsAreBack : 12/17/2014 11:35 pm : link
but i'm not understanding what any of that has to do with Eli.

But yeah us.... we're better than them.... oh wait, both teams are 5-9
Dave in DC, and his constant attempts to paint Eli in a bad light  
montanagiant : 12/17/2014 11:56 pm : link
Using cherry picked stats, while ignoring the ones that disproved his argument, almost became a parody by the time he was banned.
RE: He's had a bad year...  
montanagiant : 12/17/2014 11:57 pm : link
In comment 12040676 MetsAreBack said:
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but i'm not understanding what any of that has to do with Eli.

But yeah us.... we're better than them.... oh wait, both teams are 5-9

Who said the Giants were better then them?
The Bears o  
phil in arizona : 12/18/2014 12:04 am : link
is like miscommunication central. It's like watching our o from last year.
No Comment.  
Britt in VA : 12/18/2014 6:57 am : link
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In Clausen's defense...  
BMac : 12/18/2014 7:01 am : link
... hear he can really throw the pickle!
The best arguments were always about  
RC02XX : 12/18/2014 8:27 am : link
people questioning Eli's leadership qualities because he isn't firey or vocal. Man, I miss those days of people thinking that leadership = being loud.
of course it has to be loud  
bc4life : 12/18/2014 8:34 am : link
and there must also be a certain amount of swagger involved...
I'm baffled by the Bears  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/18/2014 8:39 am : link
Who would not want those offensive weapons? And yet Cutler has been terrible.

He's got two twin towers on the outside and a strong TE over the middle, and a pretty good RB.
What a  
dorgan : 12/18/2014 9:11 am : link
mess they're in.
The entire offensive staff is toast and the blemish on Cutler's record is going to be hard to overcome as well.

RE: of course it has to be loud  
RC02XX : 12/18/2014 10:01 am : link
In comment 12040805 bc4life said:
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and there must also be a certain amount of swagger involved...


What? Eli doesn't have that swagger? Child, please...

If Beckham has 100 recieving yards and a TD, we win.  
Britt in VA : 12/18/2014 10:03 am : link
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Wrong thread.  
Britt in VA : 12/18/2014 10:05 am : link
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the loud/fiery = leadership and want to win stuff remains pretty  
Riggies : 12/18/2014 10:16 am : link
prevalent.

Beyond Eli, who still gets complaints about his "lazed demeanor," look how much shit Tuck would take and did take until his end here, really.

In comment 12040461 mattlawson said:
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Cutler is way better than Eli



Ha! Incidentally -- how do PPF rankings compare?


Cutler is -16.2 and Eli is +4.0, in terms of their grading.

Cutler has not had a positively graded game since the second week of the season.
RE: the loud/fiery = leadership and want to win stuff remains pretty  
jcn56 : 12/18/2014 10:17 am : link
In comment 12041007 Riggies said:
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prevalent.

Beyond Eli, who still gets complaints about his "lazed demeanor," look how much shit Tuck would take and did take until his end here, really.

In comment 12040461 mattlawson said:


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In comment 12040378 oipolloi said:


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Cutler is way better than Eli



Ha! Incidentally -- how do PPF rankings compare?



Cutler is -16.2 and Eli is +4.0, in terms of their grading.

Cutler has not had a positively graded game since the second week of the season.


Tuck didn't get shit for not being fiery though, he took it over being constantly injured. Eli's been graded on his facial expressions alone by some people.
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