Adrian Wojnarowski: The Dallas Mavericks are serious suitors for Rajon Rondo, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Houston's discussed Rondo deal with Boston too. Twitter @WojYahooNBA
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Boston's discussing Rondo trades on multiple fronts, but Mavericks are showing an increasing interest in deal for Rondo, sources tell Yahoo. Twitter @WojYahooNBA
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As part of package, the Mavericks are willing to give Boston a 2015 first-round pick with limited lottery protection, sources told Yahoo Sports. Before a deal is consummated, Dallas needs to confer with Rondo's agent, Bill Duffy, about the franchise's ability to re-sign him as a free agent in the summer. Those conversations wouldn't happen until an agreement is in place. Yahoo! Sports
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Marc Stein: ESPN sources say Celtics & Mavs in substantive discussions on deal that would send Rajon Rondo to Dallas for multiple picks/package of vets Twitter @ESPNSteinLine
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Marc Stein: Celtics ARE talking to other teams -- most notably Knicks and Kings -- but sources say most serious Rondo talks to date are with Mavericks Twitter @ESPNSteinLine
The Knicks just don't have much to offer. Just can't give up their 2015 1st for impending FA Rondo and don't have any other real assets.
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In comment 12040984 River Vale NJ Fan said:
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I think the Knicks need to stay the course and continue the road to a top 3 pick. It will be a major asset with cap space and a star in place.
I just wish the media would stop calling this season a disaster and not look at the big picture of the position this team could be in during the offseason.
This kind of embarassing press is what makes Dolan do crazy things.
they can't help themselves. They'd rather the team goes 41-41 and plays 4-5 playoff games rather than tank/rebuild. But then come the summer they'll write how they'd have been better off rebuilding.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but why wouldn't they consider trading for Rondo though? It's a long shot to begin with because I can't believe the Celtics are excited about trading him to the Knicks of all teams. Not to mention we don't have much to offer anyway. However, they did just sign a 30 year old to a 6 year deal and I am sure they'd like to surround him with talent while he's still in his prime.
I would have concerns about committing 5 years and big money to him. Boston was, for the most part, an average team on offense with him at the helm despite playing with 3 HOFers. But there's no denying his defense and passing. He's clearly better than anyone we've had at PG in a LONG time. But is he the guy you commit to long term at this point in his career? I'm just not sure.
I don't believe either team has a great package to offer. Just believe the Mavs vs. Knicks, the Mavs are more appealing if we are talking talent/assets. Mavs could probably include some guys like Ledo (upside) and Crowder (meh, but could be a solid role guy), the Knicks have very, very little to trade.
So say Knicks sign Rondo and Monroe and add Okafor in the draft...
Rondo THJR Melo Monroe Okafor is not a much better team than they have this year? That team could compete in the East very quickly...
There is only 3 players i would trade that pick for, Lebron, Durant, or Davis and thats it..
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mike fisher @fishsports 13m 13 minutes ago
#MAVS Wright-Felton package benefit to #Celtics for #Rondo : Boston could add both using TEs + $12.9 mil TE for later use.
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For a franchise saving talent. Rondo is good but not that good.
There is only 3 players i would trade that pick for, Lebron, Durant, or Davis and thats it..
really? Not Curry, Harden, Blake, CP3, Wall, Love?
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Monroe and another decent player makes this roster a good team? The knicks are so far away its crazy. Monroe, Melo, Hardaway and Calderon are all really bad defenders.
So say Knicks sign Rondo and Monroe and add Okafor in the draft...
Rondo THJR Melo Monroe Okafor is not a much better team than they have this year? That team could compete in the East very quickly...
Rondo is getting a max deal close to 20 mill that will take up all of the Knicks current cap space. If they dump calderon and JR then maybe they could fit in Monroe too but its doubful. And that will leave them with no money to build a bench or other players.
On paper that team should definitely be able to contend in the east but making that team happen is very slim odds.
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For a franchise saving talent. Rondo is good but not that good.
There is only 3 players i would trade that pick for, Lebron, Durant, or Davis and thats it..
really? Not Curry, Harden, Blake, CP3, Wall, Love?
Curry yes, harden no, Blake yes, CP3 no, Wall yes, Love No
And how can BOS make this trade with TPE? Wright + Felton is pretty close to Rondo's salary. The mavs are over the cap so they need to send out as much as they are receiving so they cant trade WRight/Felton for the TPE and then still take back Rondo unless they are trading other players to match Rondo's salary. Or am i misunderstanding that tweet.
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Monroe and another decent player makes this roster a good team? The knicks are so far away its crazy. Monroe, Melo, Hardaway and Calderon are all really bad defenders.
So say Knicks sign Rondo and Monroe and add Okafor in the draft...
Rondo THJR Melo Monroe Okafor is not a much better team than they have this year? That team could compete in the East very quickly...
Rondo is getting a max deal close to 20 mill that will take up all of the Knicks current cap space. If they dump calderon and JR then maybe they could fit in Monroe too but its doubful. And that will leave them with no money to build a bench or other players.
On paper that team should definitely be able to contend in the east but making that team happen is very slim odds.
Do you know how max deals work? not every players max deal is the same...
Rondo's max deal starts at around 15-16 million...Knicks have 23 million in space, if they get rid of JR they will have around 29-30 million in space...
Monroe's deal starts at around 12 or 13 million...
mike fisher @fishsports 13m 13 minutes ago
#MAVS Wright-Felton package benefit to #Celtics for #Rondo : Boston could add both using TEs + $12.9 mil TE for later use.
huh?
Rondo
THJR?
Melo
Okafor
Monroe
Would still have to build, but that is going to be the case no matter what. You arent going to build a championship team in just one offseason.
A Wright-Felton (or Wright-Harris) package would have an added benefit to Boston that might prove beneficial later. The Celtics could add both players using existing trade exceptions and create a $12.91 mil trade exception for use later.
And Boston will need to find some benefits here. Rondo's stock is down. He'll leave there in July. We've always thought the price would be much higher than this and maybe it will be, if a team outbids Dallas. (Sources tell us the Rockets are mucking things up here, and logically the Lakers and others are visiting with Boston, too.) There is plenty of time for the Celtics to salvage something out of him ... maybe the TE's represent that.
This guy sounds like he doesnt know what he is talking about
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For a franchise saving talent. Rondo is good but not that good.
There is only 3 players i would trade that pick for, Lebron, Durant, or Davis and thats it..
really? Not Curry, Harden, Blake, CP3, Wall, Love?
Curry yes, harden no, Blake yes, CP3 no, Wall yes, Love No
Are you kidding me? I can see arguments against Paul (age) and Love, but Harden? He's arguably the MVP of the league this year.
A Wright-Felton (or Wright-Harris) package would have an added benefit to Boston that might prove beneficial later. The Celtics could add both players using existing trade exceptions and create a $12.91 mil trade exception for use later.
And Boston will need to find some benefits here. Rondo's stock is down. He'll leave there in July. We've always thought the price would be much higher than this and maybe it will be, if a team outbids Dallas. (Sources tell us the Rockets are mucking things up here, and logically the Lakers and others are visiting with Boston, too.) There is plenty of time for the Celtics to salvage something out of him ... maybe the TE's represent that.
Deals like this do happen when what appears to be one trade is actually 2 trades involving different moving parts...but this doesn't make sense. Boston can certainly take back Wright and Felton using the TPE's, but I don't' see how they can just send Rondo to Dallas without taking money back (which is what would have to happen to get the $12.9 million TPE). Dallas would need to carve out enough room under the cab to absorb Rondo's deal, and simply removing Felton/Wright doesn't accomplish that.
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For a franchise saving talent. Rondo is good but not that good.
There is only 3 players i would trade that pick for, Lebron, Durant, or Davis and thats it..
really? Not Curry, Harden, Blake, CP3, Wall, Love?
Curry yes, harden no, Blake yes, CP3 no, Wall yes, Love No
Are you kidding me? I can see arguments against Paul (age) and Love, but Harden? He's arguably the MVP of the league this year.
I jsut dont think harden and Melo would mesh well...
Harden is great when he is the ball dominant player and can create his own offense and dominate the scoring...him and Howard work well together because Howard is better off of pick and roll rather than straight post up...
Now if you ask me Melo for Harden straight up...i am driving Melo to Houston myself...
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For a franchise saving talent. Rondo is good but not that good.
There is only 3 players i would trade that pick for, Lebron, Durant, or Davis and thats it..
really? Not Curry, Harden, Blake, CP3, Wall, Love?
Curry yes, harden no, Blake yes, CP3 no, Wall yes, Love No
Are you kidding me? I can see arguments against Paul (age) and Love, but Harden? He's arguably the MVP of the league this year.
I jsut dont think harden and Melo would mesh well...
Harden is great when he is the ball dominant player and can create his own offense and dominate the scoring...him and Howard work well together because Howard is better off of pick and roll rather than straight post up...
Now if you ask me Melo for Harden straight up...i am driving Melo to Houston myself...
He worked well with Durant and Westbrook, didn't he?
My main reason is the fit its not the talent of Harden...
Donnie was a fucking moron.
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is that the same Corey Brewer the Knicks waived a few years ago before he ever played a game for them? that Corey Brewer?
Donnie was a fucking moron.
I will never forget what Dumbtoni said about him...saying he only plays defense we really dont have use for him...
Davis, Curry, Lebron have been the 3 best players in the league this year.
Davis, Curry, Lebron have been the 3 best players in the league this year.
I get it that the west is a nightmare, but I don't think a player on a .500 team has ever even sniffed the top 3 of the MVP voting. It simply doesn't happen.
Davis, Curry, Lebron have been the 3 best players in the league this year.
You can hate his game all you want, but he's most definitely in the discussion for MVP. The Rockets are 19-5, his defense has improved, and he's one of the most prolific offensive players in the NBA.
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for this as a guy who hates his game, but Harden isnt even in the top 3 of MVP discussion.
Davis, Curry, Lebron have been the 3 best players in the league this year.
You can hate his game all you want, but he's most definitely in the discussion for MVP. The Rockets are 19-5, his defense has improved, and he's one of the most prolific offensive players in the NBA.
I am not saying he shouldnt be all-NBA or anything cause he deserves it. And his overall game has improved. But he is still a 42% shooter and a 32% 3 point shooter who is 2nd in the NBA in turnovers.
He is AWESOME getting to the line, which makes his stat line better.
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for this as a guy who hates his game, but Harden isnt even in the top 3 of MVP discussion.
Davis, Curry, Lebron have been the 3 best players in the league this year.
You can hate his game all you want, but he's most definitely in the discussion for MVP. The Rockets are 19-5, his defense has improved, and he's one of the most prolific offensive players in the NBA.
I am not saying he shouldnt be all-NBA or anything cause he deserves it. And his overall game has improved. But he is still a 42% shooter and a 32% 3 point shooter who is 2nd in the NBA in turnovers.
He is AWESOME getting to the line, which makes his stat line better.
Allen Iverson won a MVP once shooting 42% from the floor and 32% from three getting to line 10 times per game.
Harden's game has flaws but you cannot deny he's been one of the best players in the league this season.
There's no love lost between those two, that's for sure. I always thought Chandler's comments about players not being on the same page on defense was a direct shot at Amar'e.
Steph Curry's numbers are better and he plays on the best team. And Lebron's numbers have been as well.
He is definitely the start guard on the WC for the all-start team and playing at 1st team ALL NBA level. I just think the other 3 have been better.
So the Knicks could be without Carmelo, Amar'e, JR Smith, Shumpert and Bargnani tonight for a TNT game.
Chuck is going to have a ball.
Steph Curry's numbers are better and he plays on the best team. And Lebron's numbers have been as well.
He is definitely the start guard on the WC for the all-start team and playing at 1st team ALL NBA level. I just think the other 3 have been better.
I think Davis has been slightly better than Harden (emphasis on slightly), but the Pelicans are not going to make the playoffs and I can't see the voters giving out an MVP to a player on a lottery team.
Phire Phil?:)