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Devon Kennard on Mike Lupica yesterday

ImaGiant86 : 12/18/2014 1:48 pm
Found it after listening Beckham's interview with SVP.


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Kennard  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/18/2014 2:15 pm : link
needs to become one of the leaders of the team next year.
Ugh!  
Howard K : 12/18/2014 3:05 pm : link
Can't listen to Lupica. His voice is like chalk on a blackboard to me.
So far it looks like we have three future starters from this draft -  
Ira : 12/18/2014 3:09 pm : link
OBJ, Richburg and Kennard with OBJ being a pro-bowl level player.
Andre Williams should be ncluded on that list as well  
beatrixkiddo : 12/18/2014 3:36 pm : link
not bad at all.
RE: Ugh!  
drkenneth : 12/18/2014 3:38 pm : link
In comment 12041702 Howard K said:
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Can't listen to Lupica. His voice is like chalk on a blackboard to me.


Agreed. His voice could cut glass.
I can't wait for Andre Williams to figure it out.  
Jupiter : 12/18/2014 5:11 pm : link
When he figures out how to "run to daylight", he is going to be real tough to stop.

Much more talented than Wheatley or Dayne. I think he could be Rodney Hampton II.
Not convinced about Williams as anything more than a capable back up  
BlueLou : 12/18/2014 5:20 pm : link
RB. He has a burst, and can block and even (surprise) catch a pass on occasion, but he isn't yet the runner I'd hoped for.
RE: I can't wait for Andre Williams to figure it out.  
Milton : 12/18/2014 5:24 pm : link
In comment 12041883 Jupiter said:
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When he figures out how to "run to daylight", he is going to be real tough to stop.

Much more talented than Wheatley or Dayne. I think he could be Rodney Hampton II.
I don't think he is anywhere near as talented as Wheatley. Wheatley's issue was never talent.
Can't stand Lupica.  
smshmth8690 : 12/18/2014 5:47 pm : link
I hate his forced fake excitement stutter. E E E E E exactly, YYYYYYou're right -
Wheatley's talent was a bit overrated, though  
JonC : 12/18/2014 5:49 pm : link
Terrific college tailback that didn't test through the roof, and wasn't more than a little above average at his best in the NFL. And I was a big booster of his in '95.
Andre just needs to run with patience  
JonC : 12/18/2014 5:50 pm : link
the game is frequently too fast for him, thus he doesn't see the holes and slams into the pile. As he gains more reps and experience the game will slow down for him.
could turn out to be a critical draft at  
Rory : 12/18/2014 8:52 pm : link
a critical time for this franchise.

I expect Reese to stay put to see how this plays out.
Williams  
lugnut : 12/18/2014 9:54 pm : link
"doesn't see the holes." What, our OL can create holes?
Williams doesn't see  
Rjanyg : 12/18/2014 10:23 pm : link
The cutback lanes. His weakness appears to be vision. He is plenty physical and runs extremely hard. If he can be a little more patient and realize he could make a jump step instead of trying to create a hole all by himself he will gain more yards and extend his career.
I think Kennard is being a bit overshadowed by OBJ,  
j_rud : 12/19/2014 12:02 am : link
and understandably so, but this is a potentially huge development. After years of grasping at straws, drafting projects, putting guys out of position, and totally whiffing in regards to drafting LBers in the middle rounds it appears that they may finally hit on one.

It's clear that he's not a finished product and needs some seasoning, no doubt a result of constantly being moved around in college. But he has regularly flashed the tools to be a 3 down LBer. He's quick enough that, once he learns some finer points, he could do a little man coverage. He's already solid in short areas. He's instinctive against the run and throws himself in there. I've seen him get overmatched and engulfed but I've also seen him shed and slip blocks-a year in an NFL strength program is only going to help him in that regard. And we've already seen he has a nose for getting to the QB, I think he's probably already the best blitzer on the team, he's really come on the last 3 weeks and the sack numbers clearly reflect it.

Just a question: anyone else wonder if he could play in the middle? I understand McClain has put up nice numbers in Beasons absence but I'm really not sold on him being much more than JAG and I really don't think he ought to be in their long term plans. I just like the idea of Kennard's instincts, athleticism, and willingness to mix it up running wild as Big Hank occupies two blockers in front of them.
u cant teach  
area junc : 12/19/2014 12:10 am : link
RB instincts
Kennard does one thing we have not seen in 15 years  
oipolloi : 12/19/2014 2:01 am : link
He is a LB who loves to hit. Really lays the leather.

Giants have not had a guy like that since Michael Barrow.
RE: Not convinced about Williams as anything more than a capable back up  
mrvax : 12/19/2014 7:56 am : link
In comment 12041896 BlueLou said:
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RB. He has a burst, and can block and even (surprise) catch a pass on occasion, but he isn't yet the runner I'd hoped for.


Jennings is a better runner right now; he sees small creases and has outstanding vision. I can only hope Williams gets better as he goes on. I'm sort of counting on our Oline to come up to "average" next season and that will help his YPC.
williams had  
area junc : 12/19/2014 11:29 am : link
over 700 carries in college...any instincts he'd already have
he looks like he's going to be the best homegrown LB  
chris r : 12/19/2014 11:32 am : link
the Giants have had since Armstead.
j_rud  
JonC : 12/19/2014 12:26 pm : link
The coaches indicated in camp they thought Kennard's best position would be MIKE, so you have company in that regard.
Jon  
j_rud : 12/19/2014 12:52 pm : link
I might be totally off base here but I think the only reason Kennard isn't already in the middle is because they don't have competent OLBs, ironically enough including McClain, which as you know he was initially brought in to play.

I think Beasons injury sort of saved him, I don't think he could've played on the outside here. Eric, myself, and many others questioned his ability after watching some film of his last season with the Ravens. And before anyone points to the tackle numbers, it's an easy stat to misread. I'll bet close to 3/4s of those tackles are 5+ yards downfield, but he still jumps around like it was a sack. How many of those 100 tackles are for losses? How many impact plays has he made?

Average player made to look better by a strong surrounding cast, an earnest attempt at improving the LBers especially based on then market but not a long term solution and likely part of the purge. The only starting LBer for the 2015 Giants who is already Oman the roster is Kenner, and I hope he's in the middle. Beast in the making, especially behind Big Hank.
j_rud  
JonC : 12/19/2014 12:58 pm : link
You may be right, and a MIKE is normally more integral to a 4-3 scheme. Kennard also has the intrinsic gift of explosive power, when he hits a runner they go down and I think he can physically handle OL with leverage and power, at times. Must admit it's fun watching him explode off the edge though, and his USC pedigree portends pass rushing skills.

We agree violently on McClain, he's serviceable and the type of hustle and heart players you need to fill out a roster, but ordinary.
RE: I think Kennard is being a bit overshadowed by OBJ,  
dguy901 : 12/19/2014 1:51 pm : link
In comment 12042283 j_rud said:
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and understandably so, but this is a potentially huge development. After years of grasping at straws, drafting projects, putting guys out of position, and totally whiffing in regards to drafting LBers in the middle rounds it appears that they may finally hit on one.

It's clear that he's not a finished product and needs some seasoning, no doubt a result of constantly being moved around in college. But he has regularly flashed the tools to be a 3 down LBer. He's quick enough that, once he learns some finer points, he could do a little man coverage. He's already solid in short areas. He's instinctive against the run and throws himself in there. I've seen him get overmatched and engulfed but I've also seen him shed and slip blocks-a year in an NFL strength program is only going to help him in that regard. And we've already seen he has a nose for getting to the QB, I think he's probably already the best blitzer on the team, he's really come on the last 3 weeks and the sack numbers clearly reflect it.

Just a question: anyone else wonder if he could play in the middle? I understand McClain has put up nice numbers in Beasons absence but I'm really not sold on him being much more than JAG and I really don't think he ought to be in their long term plans. I just like the idea of Kennard's instincts, athleticism, and willingness to mix it up running wild as Big Hank occupies two blockers in front of them.

If I remember right, the talk was his fit as MLB after he learned the defense. McClain was insurance on Beason.
Not sure MLB would maximize Kennard's talent  
Milton : 12/19/2014 9:31 pm : link
It would seem that his ability to blitz is better served on the outside, but I guess it depends on the scheme. I just don't recall any defenses that blitzed their MLB. Not even those that featured a Pro Bowler at the position (and my Pro Bowler I don't mean an NFL player who is also a professional bowler, I mean an NFL player who goes to the Pro Bowl).
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