"But in 2013 Snee had missed almost the entire season with injuries. Slamming into an opponent in the season-opening game, he heard a piece of bone crack and then break loose in his right elbow. He remained in the game. Two games later, Snee’s right hip kept noisily popping in and out of its socket as he assumed his stance at the line of scrimmage. In excruciating pain, Snee finished the game, but shortly thereafter, the Giants announced that he was done for the year.
Undeterred, Snee plotted a comeback in 2014. He had off-season hip surgery, the second of his career, and a third operation on his right elbow.
Medical procedures prolonging Snee’s football career had long ago become a routine part of his life, whether it was epidurals for bulging disks in his back, cortisone shots delivered with foot-long needles, lubricant injected into cranky joints, fluid drained to relieve inflammation or arthroscopic surgery to slice out damaged cartilage.
In the phone in his pocket, Snee carried a picture of a dinner plate filled with the bone fragments excised from his right elbow. It was one of the reasons Snee could no longer straighten the elbow."
Such is life in the NFL for a lot of guys, before we call anyone soft.
the question was whether he was worth 12 million in cap space when his body was clearly breaking down (as indicated not only by his play but by the numerous medical procedures reference in the article)
the question was whether he was worth 12 million in cap space when his body was clearly breaking down (as indicated not only by his play but by the numerous medical procedures reference in the article)
He was ineffective for a while before retiring, which his father in law apparently couldn't face since they kept starting him when it was plainly obvious that he wasn't very good anymore.
the question was whether he was worth 12 million in cap space when his body was clearly breaking down (as indicated not only by his play but by the numerous medical procedures reference in the article)
Kate and Chris met as students at Boston College. One night, her father, who was then the coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, was in Boston scouting another Boston College player. He called Kate and suggested they have dinner.
“Kate asked me if she could bring a friend,” Coughlin recalled. “I said sure. That afternoon I was watching tape of this other B.C. player, and I couldn’t help but notice this guard who was knocking people over and clearing out huge holes to run through.
“His name was Snee. I go to dinner that night and Kate’s guest is the same guy, Chris Snee. And he didn’t say two words throughout the whole dinner.”
but many of our problems on the oline are hard to fix because the Giants held on to him too long, paid too much, and influence of relationship with TC, etc..
weight by the picture with him and his family at the table. His face isn't round anymore. He lost a lot just on his face. That's good that some chronic issues went away due to losing the weight.
...for the delays in rebuilding the offensive line. Most of it falls on the coaching staff and the front office. The players naturally wanted to continue their careers.
In a perfect world, Mitch Petrus would have become a force at RG and replaced Snee by 2012. David Baas would have stayed healthy and anchored the line for four or five years. Will Beatty would have fulfilled his potential earlier, relegating Diehl to the bench, and not gone into the tank after he got paid. James Brewer or Brandon Mosley would have emerged as a viable right tackle to fill McKenzie's shoes. None of those scenarios was unrealistic. The problem was that the Giants needed most of them to materizalize, and none did. And they never did much of anything about left guard, squeezing every ounce out of Kevin Boothe after Rich Seubert went down for good. I guess Petrus was supposed to be an option there, but he projected better to RG, and ultimately projected to a couch in Arkansas.
...for the delays in rebuilding the offensive line. Most of it falls on the coaching staff and the front office. The players naturally wanted to continue their careers.
In a perfect world, Mitch Petrus would have become a force at RG and replaced Snee by 2012. David Baas would have stayed healthy and anchored the line for four or five years. Will Beatty would have fulfilled his potential earlier, relegating Diehl to the bench, and not gone into the tank after he got paid. James Brewer or Brandon Mosley would have emerged as a viable right tackle to fill McKenzie's shoes. None of those scenarios was unrealistic. The problem was that the Giants needed most of them to materizalize, and none did. And they never did much of anything about left guard, squeezing every ounce out of Kevin Boothe after Rich Seubert went down for good. I guess Petrus was supposed to be an option there, but he projected better to RG, and ultimately projected to a couch in Arkansas.
Well, in a perfect world, at least one or two of the guys on the 2008 line would've stayed healthy enough to be decent starters past their 31st birthday. All those guys just went downhill very quickly, which isn't always the case for NFL OL.
The OL's culture of keeping your mouth shut and playing through pain (until something snaps) might have done more harm than good here.
I don't think anyone is going to confuse Chris Snee Â
I also enjoyed the insight into Eli's inner demeanor. He is very perceptive and is clearly well aware and expertly calculated in many ways. In my opinion, Eli's body langauge and "aw shucks" public persona has masterfully trolled the NFL media for over ten years.
It wasn't exactly sudden, though. O'Hara got pushed around in 2009, when he was 32. Diehl was a marginal starter for years before he retired. Snee had been playing through significant injuries, with mixed results, since 2008. Seubert's knee injury brought his career to a sudden end, but he had been playing on borrowed time since the massive fracture eleven years ago. And while McKenzie's decline might have been unexpected, 2011 was a contract year for him, so they couldn't count on him beyond then.
Anyway, the organization tried to restock between 2009 and 2012. Beatty and Baas were big commitments; Petrus, Brewer and Mosley were added in the middle rounds for extra beef. Unfortunately, only one of those reinforcements - Beatty - has worked out at all, and he's had plenty of problems with injuries and underperformance. The others have been complete washouts. Here's hoping the line can turn the corner next year with Pugh, Richburg, Schwartz and further additions.
Undeterred, Snee plotted a comeback in 2014. He had off-season hip surgery, the second of his career, and a third operation on his right elbow.
Medical procedures prolonging Snee’s football career had long ago become a routine part of his life, whether it was epidurals for bulging disks in his back, cortisone shots delivered with foot-long needles, lubricant injected into cranky joints, fluid drained to relieve inflammation or arthroscopic surgery to slice out damaged cartilage.
In the phone in his pocket, Snee carried a picture of a dinner plate filled with the bone fragments excised from his right elbow. It was one of the reasons Snee could no longer straighten the elbow."
Such is life in the NFL for a lot of guys, before we call anyone soft.
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the question was whether he was worth 12 million in cap space when his body was clearly breaking down (as indicated not only by his play but by the numerous medical procedures reference in the article)
And you are certainly the one to determine worth.
He didn't determine his worth, he questioned it.
If the NFL is any bit concerned about player safety, Snee realistically shouldve never played in 2013.
“Kate asked me if she could bring a friend,” Coughlin recalled. “I said sure. That afternoon I was watching tape of this other B.C. player, and I couldn’t help but notice this guard who was knocking people over and clearing out huge holes to run through.
“His name was Snee. I go to dinner that night and Kate’s guest is the same guy, Chris Snee. And he didn’t say two words throughout the whole dinner.”
Wish Snee retired after the 2013 season.
Wish Snee retired after the 2013 season.
He did retire after the '13 season.
Good read. Snee was a terrific Giant & seems like a great dude.
2012 season.
In a perfect world, Mitch Petrus would have become a force at RG and replaced Snee by 2012. David Baas would have stayed healthy and anchored the line for four or five years. Will Beatty would have fulfilled his potential earlier, relegating Diehl to the bench, and not gone into the tank after he got paid. James Brewer or Brandon Mosley would have emerged as a viable right tackle to fill McKenzie's shoes. None of those scenarios was unrealistic. The problem was that the Giants needed most of them to materizalize, and none did. And they never did much of anything about left guard, squeezing every ounce out of Kevin Boothe after Rich Seubert went down for good. I guess Petrus was supposed to be an option there, but he projected better to RG, and ultimately projected to a couch in Arkansas.
In a perfect world, Mitch Petrus would have become a force at RG and replaced Snee by 2012. David Baas would have stayed healthy and anchored the line for four or five years. Will Beatty would have fulfilled his potential earlier, relegating Diehl to the bench, and not gone into the tank after he got paid. James Brewer or Brandon Mosley would have emerged as a viable right tackle to fill McKenzie's shoes. None of those scenarios was unrealistic. The problem was that the Giants needed most of them to materizalize, and none did. And they never did much of anything about left guard, squeezing every ounce out of Kevin Boothe after Rich Seubert went down for good. I guess Petrus was supposed to be an option there, but he projected better to RG, and ultimately projected to a couch in Arkansas.
Well, in a perfect world, at least one or two of the guys on the 2008 line would've stayed healthy enough to be decent starters past their 31st birthday. All those guys just went downhill very quickly, which isn't always the case for NFL OL.
The OL's culture of keeping your mouth shut and playing through pain (until something snaps) might have done more harm than good here.
Anyway, the organization tried to restock between 2009 and 2012. Beatty and Baas were big commitments; Petrus, Brewer and Mosley were added in the middle rounds for extra beef. Unfortunately, only one of those reinforcements - Beatty - has worked out at all, and he's had plenty of problems with injuries and underperformance. The others have been complete washouts. Here's hoping the line can turn the corner next year with Pugh, Richburg, Schwartz and further additions.
2007 was very good
2008 was very good
2009 above average
2010 was very good
2012 was very good
2013 was bad
2014 average
pass pro was decent