It seems dreary right now, but it's good to see that a couple wins allow some optimism, even if it's limited.
Looking back across the schedule, with a few plays here or there, we're 9-5 heading into a key game this weekend. The loss to Arizona was one that got away, and was winnable. Four OTHER losses were by a total of 20 points (including the 31-21 loss to Dallas). The other Dallas game, the 25-24 shit show and the San Fran game, asll could have been wins with a play or two, or player or two.
I'm an eternal optimist. Going draft heavy on O and D lines, as well as LB, and the luck of the draw with injuries, this club really should be back in the thick of it a year from now.
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You are right though. This good feeling so many of us have had is all because of the breakout of Beckham. I think though that a lot of teams that are on the cusp can say similar things. Where would the Broncos be without Peyton, where would the Chiefs be without Jamal Charles, and where would the Cowboys be without Demarco Murray. I do think we as fans tend to get a bit too excited when the Giants win two in a row and a little too suicidal when they lose, but I do think this team has a lot of positives (some key negatives) but as long as Eli has rebounded and he has targets to throw to, there is something to build around.
Offseason 2015 has to be about shoring up the lines, and finding athletes in the back seven of the defense. Lots to do, but Manning to Beckham Jr will make up for a lot of short comings.
2) New RT and C
3) 2nd good DT
4) Another safety
5) a MLB
6) Resign JPP
7) Somewhat healthy Cruz
8) Jennings to stay healthy
9) Healthy/durable corners
So just a few things away...
Hell, they can't stay on the field for 60 minutes with some of the pretenders, either.
How can you blow a 21 point halftime lead to the effing Jaguars and think you have anything resembling a quality team?
How can you lose the stats war to the Redskins all the time? Hint - they would not have won that last Redskins game without the officials overturning the RG III TD.
I could go on but I won't. The GIANTS are not close to being a good team.
The GIANTS are not close to being a good team.
Yes, this 2014 team is a bad team.
No, the Giants with their 22 guys back from IR aren't that far from being a good team.
Just stupid shit we managed to do all year long. I believe we are 2-3 years away.
Defensively, what if JPP leaves in free agency? Who do we have at LB other than Kennard, who our DC just said is a 'tweener. Rolle is fading and we don't have much at safety.
This team with probably it's best OL on IR, starting a rookie out of position and their RT banged up for a good part of the year can't get a yard on 3rd-and-1.
Defensively, what if JPP leaves in free agency? Who do we have at LB other than Kennard, who our DC just said is a 'tweener. Rolle is fading and we don't have much at safety.
It would be nice if we actually do something different than run the ball every damn time. I am still waiting we move the pocket or go play action and throw it. How many times are we going to be stubborn and run the ball? Our offensive line isn't good.
Reality: 2 good (not even needing to be great) FA offseason signings, and drafts as well, yes.
Once you get in the dance, Eli (and JPP and cruz) have proven they can play in big games. I have very little doubt that ODB is a big game player, too.
I am a cock-eyed optimist, tho.
I think Eli makes dramatic improvement between year 1 and 2. He seems to be that kind of guy. I think Macadoo will self correct and learn a lot, as well.
The real ?'sare health, and what kind of improvement the young guys make (particularly pugh and Richberg). If we sure up the line, i think this O can score plenty of points.
I would love to see a new DC. I think the D has some talent, and has not played up to it. Ever under PF
Curious, the two mopst recent SB years, weren't the Giants ridiculously low on the NFL's "key injury" ranking?
Kennard seems to be a player, despite what someone wants to call him.
Moore will be into his third season, and the talent appears to be there. The optimist says he'll flick the switch, regardless of JPP re-signing or going.
One top O-lineman, maybe a S with the second pick, FAs at LB and DL, hoping for Cruz's healthy return, and maybe something could develop at TE, either through the draft (later rounds) or a vet signing ...
Ya never know.
They are not near the Seahawks, Cards, Eagles, Packers and that doesn't include the AFC.
But Two Oline, Cruz back, Beason back, a safety or two...
meh, their not that close to being a real contender.
A playoff team? That is another story.
Hey, look at those two recent Super Bowls - one play turned each game and a "good" Giants team came through.
I repeat - bad teams don't make that one play.
But Two Oline, Cruz back, Beason back, a safety or two...
They're as good as the Eagles. The others, well...
Defensively, what if JPP leaves in free agency? Who do we have at LB other than Kennard, who our DC just said is a 'tweener. Rolle is fading and we don't have much at safety.
You're right on all of the above. The lack of ability to get a yard is a glaring weakness. Donnell has been a surprise, but I'm not convinced he is the answer. Part of the answer, but not THE answer. However, these issues are not that hard to fix. I think the OL is a Guard away, and Reese needs to throw more money and resources at the TE position.
We all hope the best for Cruz, but I think there needs to be insurance brought in. Torry Smith from Baltimore makes a lot of sense to me.
Coughlin refuses to play the youngsters
BPA in this years draft should not come into play. It should be franchise left tackle all the way.
Free agency with all the cap room there is SUH and resign JPP
Give Cory Washington a serious look in the last two games. He could be a diamond in the rough especially if Cruz doesn't come back
Is this going to be a team who is favored preseason to be a Super Bowl winner? Of course not.
But is it out of the question that we can pull an Atlanta (or hopefully a lot better) and find ourselves, with the famous Giant streaks, in contention at season end?
You betcha. Put Tom in charge of team cohesiveness, Ben in charge of offensive philosophy (never the twain shall meet), a new DC, a decent draft, and we're right in it.
Have to hit on two workable Olinemen in draft and FA. Defense has players just needs a few leaders.
Next year is another rebuild, Year after is start of Mac Adoo era.
Defensively, what if JPP leaves in free agency? Who do we have at LB other than Kennard, who our DC just said is a 'tweener. Rolle is fading and we don't have much at safety.
Two good Cbs in DRC And Prince.
Don't count Taylor out Berhe needs to develope we had less secondary in both Super Bowl runs. Wilson,mcQuarters,Webster,
Hankins,Moore Ayers,Wynn Bromley resign JPP. It's not Strahan Osi and Tuck or is it with the right DC?
Kennard add another Lb in the draft and one in FA to add to McClain and again a different DC and you have a good Defense. Next DC is going to look good fast.
Our major hole is still rebuilding the line. Reese has to hit on two OL in draft or FA.
If Reese is capable and things break right, it is at least two to three more years in all likelihood before this team would be a real threat... And by then our QB would likely be a starting to be a problem, given his age, and they'd be screwed from a different side.
This team is at an awful spot/crossroads right now, where few directions to take are going to end up yielding fruitful results.
5 games to bad coaching. ..
partly Elis fault which may
have been corrected by better
playcalling.Macadoo isn't
ready to be HC so that will
force Mara to keep TC.
new coach now than get all new
players. One who will bring
in good position coaches.
Eli won't be good in this system
cause he isn't mobile .
This is a real mess. Mara has
to get rid of TC or it gets worse.
Defense cannot compete with the better teams in the league.
So yes..we are VERY far from contention. You want to say that we won the SB just a few years ago and how bad can we really be? Well, look at who is still on the roster from the last SB team. Then consider that whoever is left is not what they used to be. The only player who you can rely on from the last SB team is Eli. After that, NOBODY else other than the kickers.
Eli won't be good in this system
cause he isn't mobile .
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Eli loves this offense or Mac would be gone,he doesn't have to be moble this system is set up to get the ball out of the QB hands fast.
It's TC who is demanding balance and clock killing. Watch first Wash game that was the O Mac wanted to run. Eli best feature is he can read defenses and throw the ball if protected. That's what the new Offense does. Now he needs weapons. And time to throw.
No doubt fewer, but they still win more than 5 games. It is also not the same comparison OBJ vs a QB. If we lost Eli we would be done too.
Tom is an all time great QB, but Belichick and all that he touches/controls is what drives that organization's success and maintains it.
Headhunter : 10:19 pm : link : reply
how many games do they win?
Way more than if the Giants lose Eli....
Both Thomas from Denver WR and TE
OBJ Cruz Thomas Randle Washington
TE Thomas Donell Draft pick
In FA I sign Brian Bulaga from GB
Beatty Pugh Richberg Schwartz Bulaga Peat
Jennings Williams Draft pick Hynoski
Eli Nasib
A new DC say Spags
JPP moves to RDE Bromley Hankins Moore
Ayers Wynn draft pick
Kennard Williams McClain FA draft pick
Prince DRC Taylor Berhe McBride Rolle(reasonable price) draft pick
2 years away.
My opinion.