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Giants Stadium7609 : 12/19/2014 7:26 am
Just curious to see if anyone on here tips their letter carrier and garbage men, If so how much would be good???
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For the clueless...  
Psycho : 12/19/2014 10:07 am : link
My point was military and teachers are underpaid.

Postal workers are overpaid for what they have to do. I know a postal worker who has been on trips with our group. She won't say what she makes because in the past it had pissed so many people off, she just says you don't want to know.

And, no, before the knives come out, it was not me who asked her.
RE: out in the suburbs  
ShocknAwe80 : 12/19/2014 10:11 am : link
In comment 12042509 pjcas18 said:
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out mail carrier (it's a woman) is great and does go above and beyond, my kids mail crap with no stamps, she'll put a stamp on and send it, she makes sure packages all come to the door (and technically she doesn't have to) if it's raining she'll put them in plastic or under an eave so they don't get wet. in general she's friendly, competent, and I do feel does things not required by her job.

So let me get this straight, a mailwoman may pop a 32 cent stamp on something or put a plastic bag around a package so she gets a tip, but you DON'T THINK YOUR KIDS TEACHER THAT IS WITH YOUR CHILD FOR 8 HOURS A DAY IS JUST DOING HER JOB!?!?!?!?!?!?

the teachers are the one to question, since while my kids love their teachers, I believe they are doing their job and nothing more. Yet I'll never not give the kids teachers a gift.
My kids pediatrician  
pjcas18 : 12/19/2014 10:23 am : link
has a job, she does it and she doesn't get a tip.

as I said though, my kids teachers get a gift, not sure if you read that far or if the outrage blinded you.
RE: For the clueless...  
RC02XX : 12/19/2014 10:24 am : link
In comment 12042576 Psycho said:
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My point was military and teachers are underpaid.

Postal workers are overpaid for what they have to do. I know a postal worker who has been on trips with our group. She won't say what she makes because in the past it had pissed so many people off, she just says you don't want to know.

And, no, before the knives come out, it was not me who asked her.


And for your clueless ass, the point is that the military being underpaid is a BS.
Tipping garbage men is worth it  
SchindlersFist : 12/19/2014 10:26 am : link
Tip once a year and every garbage day becomes bulk pick up day.
Sent something in with the kid to give to the teacher today.  
GiantFilthy : 12/19/2014 10:26 am : link
But our mail lady is a piece of shit at her job. She can suck it for Christmas.
my brother is a mailman  
Kevin999 : 12/19/2014 10:30 am : link
and most people tip him. It's not just about "doing their jobs" but the extra stuff. For example, he buys boxes of dog treats each week to feed to the dogs ( mainly so they don't bit! ) and most customers appreciate stuff like that.
RE: My kids pediatrician  
ShocknAwe80 : 12/19/2014 10:38 am : link
In comment 12042599 pjcas18 said:
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has a job, she does it and she doesn't get a tip.

as I said though, my kids teachers get a gift, not sure if you read that far or if the outrage blinded you.


Dude, you said that your kids teacher does her job and nothing more... I don't think teachers need to get gifts, I teach HS and I don't EXPECT or think I deserve more than what I get paid. I feel very fortunate to have the job I do. I took umbrage with the fact that you don't think your kids teacher simply does her job! I am assuming your child is in elementary school where they spend 8 hours with their teacher. How many hours a day do you spend with your kid? How many times do you crack open a beer or pour yourself a drink at the end of the night exhausted after spending a mere 2-3 hours with your kid after you get home from work... Saying that teachers simply "do their jobs" is insulting!
Mail carrier gets a tip. Nice woman.  
Crispino : 12/19/2014 10:42 am : link
I tip the trash haulers more generously. They go above and beyond, by taking stuff they might ordinarily not be expected to take. I tip the newspaper delivery guy as well.
RE: when do you even see these people?  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/19/2014 10:53 am : link
In comment 12042548 Greg from LI said:
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I have no idea when my mail arrives because I'm at work. The garbagemen don't even have to get out of the truck anymore. They just drive by and a big mechanical arm picks up the can and dumps it into the truck.

I've never heard of tipping anyone at Christmas. We get little gifts for our kids' teachers and that's it.


Amen. I couldn't pick my mailman or garbage man out of a lineup if my life depended on it. The money I have to spend on the holidays goes to family and friends. Not people simply doing their jobs.
Sorry, that came out wrong  
pjcas18 : 12/19/2014 10:53 am : link
my intent was not to offend teachers.

My point, and it should have been a compliment, not an insult (though it did not come out that way) is that teachers are more a profession where I give a gift to, not a tip.

tipping I feel is more appropriate for laborer-type professions, with generally (but not always) lower wages and not as professional as teachers.

I didn't mean it as n insult
RE: Sorry, that came out wrong  
ShocknAwe80 : 12/19/2014 10:59 am : link
In comment 12042660 pjcas18 said:
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my intent was not to offend teachers.

My point, and it should have been a compliment, not an insult (though it did not come out that way) is that teachers are more a profession where I give a gift to, not a tip.

tipping I feel is more appropriate for laborer-type professions, with generally (but not always) lower wages and not as professional as teachers.

I didn't mean it as n insult


All good my man... easy to misinterpret things on a computer

Should we tip Eric???
We give our kids's teachers...  
Chris in Philly : 12/19/2014 11:02 am : link
gifts, and we tip our mailman and garbagemen.

I hate people that hate to give tips...
RE: We give our kids's teachers...  
BrettNYG10 : 12/19/2014 11:05 am : link
In comment 12042680 Chris in Philly said:
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gifts, and we tip our mailman and garbagemen.

I hate people that hate to give tips...


I don't hate giving tips, I just love not giving them.

Never tipped anyone in my life!
I dont get shit  
Chef : 12/19/2014 11:05 am : link
and neither does anyone else.. except for maybe a Dunkin Donuts card for the teacher..
My daughter makes something for the teachers  
Rob in NYC : 12/19/2014 11:08 am : link
and we add something like a Starbucks gift card (there is a limit to monetary gifts to teachers in our town).

Tip mail carriers and garbage men - it isn't about who does their job or who you have a personal relationship with, its about recognizing and saying thank you to people who have helped make your life easier - $18 bottle of win, $10 Starbucks gift card, $4 greeting card, whatever...
I tip my sanitation works and mailmen yearly  
spike : 12/19/2014 11:10 am : link
when I file my taxes in April.
RE: My kids pediatrician  
Bramton1 : 12/19/2014 11:13 am : link
In comment 12042599 pjcas18 said:
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has a job, she does it and she doesn't get a tip.

as I said though, my kids teachers get a gift, not sure if you read that far or if the outrage blinded you.


A teacher is defined as a person who teaches, especially in a school. So let's assume we consider that their primary job responsibility.

RE: I dont get shit  
RC02XX : 12/19/2014 11:15 am : link
In comment 12042687 Chef said:
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and neither does anyone else.. except for maybe a Dunkin Donuts card for the teacher..


Hmmm...maybe you should be nicer to the kids?...;) Just messing with you.

I agree though that no one should expect a gift, so getting one feels far better.
Teacher is different.  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/19/2014 11:18 am : link
Nothing wrong with gifting the teacher (though I think money is a little weird).

There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
RE: RE: I dont get shit  
Chef : 12/19/2014 11:29 am : link
In comment 12042706 RC02XX said:
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In comment 12042687 Chef said:


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and neither does anyone else.. except for maybe a Dunkin Donuts card for the teacher..



Hmmm...maybe you should be nicer to the kids?...;) Just messing with you.

I agree though that no one should expect a gift, so getting one feels far better.


My Son is spoiled rotten ; )
I understood where pjcas was headed  
jcn56 : 12/19/2014 11:29 am : link
he viewed them as professionals, where you wouldn't normally see a tip applying, as opposed to a laborer.
Cheap people are going to find rationalizations  
Headhunter : 12/19/2014 11:29 am : link
for their cheapness
RE: Teacher is different.  
ShocknAwe80 : 12/19/2014 11:31 am : link
In comment 12042710 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Nothing wrong with gifting the teacher (though I think money is a little weird).

There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.


Thanks Mike. I agree 100% yet as a teacher I NEVER expect a gift. Not disparaging the garbage man, but they do their job, their job is to remove garbage to make your life easier, they accepted a job for the salary they get paid. I don't see why they need to be tipped... I just don't. Where does it end... The guy that measures you for a suit makes your life easier... do you tip him? Police officers that work in your neighborhood? Librarians? Bank teller? The guy that makes sure the coffee is fresh in 7-11? I just think it gets to the point where it is insane.
RE: Cheap people are going to find rationalizations  
ShocknAwe80 : 12/19/2014 11:32 am : link
In comment 12042731 Headhunter said:
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for their cheapness


I tip every person that I am complaining about tipping, but its just at the point where it's silly...
RE: Cheap people are going to find rationalizations  
jcn56 : 12/19/2014 11:32 am : link
In comment 12042731 Headhunter said:
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for their cheapness


And I'm sure on the flipside, the moral superiority that comes from giving a garbage man $10 is well worth the money.
So don't call it a "tip"  
RC02XX : 12/19/2014 11:33 am : link
Call it a show of "gratitude" or "seasonal gift."

Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
I like Frank Sinatra way of carrying a fist full of  
Headhunter : 12/19/2014 11:36 am : link
$20's $50's $100's and gave them away like candy to anyone that did something service related for him. Class act
And by the way...  
RC02XX : 12/19/2014 11:41 am : link
I think I should get an automatic bump up to First Class whenever I fly. Fuck you and you're not patriotic if you disagree!
RE: So don't call it a  
jcn56 : 12/19/2014 11:43 am : link
In comment 12042747 RC02XX said:
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Call it a show of "gratitude" or "seasonal gift."

Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?


I go less by who employs them and how they're compensated for their jobs, and whether tips are expected for their particular role.

A sanitation worker in NYC earns about $75k a year in base salary after a few years on the job, and can easily add 20-50% to that through overtime. They've got better benefits than most private sector employees, and a solid pension that kicks in after 25 years.

To me, that's fair compensation for the service they perform, and in my case, they're doing nothing above and beyond their job (and I wouldn't expect them to).

Now, my cleaning lady? The kids coaches? The assistants at work? The countless others that I'm reliant upon, day in and day out, I'll gladly tip them, in part because they're usually not compensated as well (and in part because tips are expected to fill that out, not unlike a waiter) and in part because I interact with them more and I want to express my gratitude for a job well done.

In the case of the sanitation workers, it's more like a job, done.
RE: And by the way...  
Greg from LI : 12/19/2014 11:44 am : link
In comment 12042774 RC02XX said:
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I think I should get an automatic bump up to First Class whenever I fly. Fuck you and you're not patriotic if you disagree!


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NASHVILLE – An Army veteran who has often complained about being thanked for his service is extremely angry that civilians have been ignoring him recently, Duffel Blog has learned.

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Yeah, I do  
rsjem1979 : 12/19/2014 11:45 am : link
Mailman gets a gift card, $25 I think.

I also give my building superintendent $100 gift card.
how about  
spike : 12/19/2014 11:47 am : link
tipping your doctors and nurses, who keep your loved ones and yourself alive?
RE: RE: And by the way...  
RC02XX : 12/19/2014 11:48 am : link
In comment 12042785 Greg from LI said:
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NASHVILLE – An Army veteran who has often complained about being thanked for his service is extremely angry that civilians have been ignoring him recently, Duffel Blog has learned.

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WTF? He should be pissed! Those unpatriotic and ungrateful assholes thinking that their security comes without people like him providing it to them.
RE: And by the way...  
section125 : 12/19/2014 11:49 am : link
In comment 12042774 RC02XX said:
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I think I should get an automatic bump up to First Class whenever I fly. Fuck you and you're not patriotic if you disagree!


F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
RE: how about  
RC02XX : 12/19/2014 11:50 am : link
In comment 12042793 spike said:
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tipping your doctors and nurses, who keep your loved ones and yourself alive?


When my daughter was in the pediatric emergency ward for three days with horrible staph infection, the doctors and nurses were amazing. We sent them a nice card and a gift certificates to the local restaurant so that they can at least get a nice lunch. Ah well.
I have a problem with the tipping culture  
Deej : 12/19/2014 11:51 am : link
I think it demeans the workers and perverts the economy. Think about waiters -- we tip them because they're underpaid. They're underpaid because they get tips. Or, more accurately, they're underpaid because restaurants can get away with paying 2nd/3rd world wages because of this stupid tipping shit.

It's also uncomfortable to tip. How many people have shooed away a bell boy because they can get their bags to the room easily and dont want to bother with digging out a couple of bucks per bag for some guy to take the bags that you got into the lobby of the hotel, put them on a cart, push the cart up and down some halls and in an elevator, and dump the bags in the room. So you dont use a service the hotel wants you to use as a luxury. Im sure the bell hop would much rather have a higher salary and not have to bother standing there waiting for a guest to rummage thru their purse/bags to get to money when they've just gotten to their room.

It is also economically inefficient. Think of the 20% tip at a restaurant. I eat a meal for $150 per person for food. Now add wine -- I could get a $50 bottle or a $300 bottle. Same work for the waiter, but I tip $10 on the cheap bottle and $60 on the expensive bottle? What if $360 for wine is just not worth it, so I go for the $60 total wine. The restaurant just lost $250 in sales because of its stupid tipping policy.

I wish we didnt do tips. Businesses should pay appropriate wages and price labor into the cost to customer, rather than this awkward semi-moralistic tipping stuff.
I generally give the waitress at  
Cam in MO : 12/19/2014 11:51 am : link
Waffle House 20% if she's good looking, flirty enough, and puts her bewbs in front of my face when setting the waffles on the table.

Other than that, fuck tipping.



RE: RE: And by the way...  
RC02XX : 12/19/2014 11:51 am : link
In comment 12042803 section125 said:
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F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.


Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
don't know how we made it this far without a Mr Pink appearance  
Greg from LI : 12/19/2014 11:56 am : link
RE: RE: RE: And by the way...  
section125 : 12/19/2014 11:58 am : link
In comment 12042813 RC02XX said:
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In comment 12042803 section125 said:


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F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.



Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.


Pfft, Marine weekend warrior....ok you get steerage. Wait, planes don't have steerage.

hehehe
As a classroom teacher in a Title I school  
Bramton1 : 12/19/2014 12:00 pm : link
I would get a few gifts every year. Nothing big, but it was special for the child to give their teacher a present. But I never expected it.

When I transitioned to being a school librarian, I spent a year in a Catholic school, and holy cow! I got gifts, treats, and close to $200 in gift cards. I can only imagine what the classroom teachers, who see the same kids for hours each day, was getting.

Last year, I started as a librarian in DC and don't get anything from the kids. Well, except for hugs from the little ones, which can be just as special (even if they are little germ monsters).
I think  
EricNY33 : 12/19/2014 12:06 pm : link
you should give what you can for those who go above and beyond. There's no obligation to give anything tho.
Jesus, "moral superiority"?  
Crispino : 12/19/2014 12:10 pm : link
I didn't realize I was seeking moral superiority by showing a little token of appreciation. Thanks for shedding light on my motives, JCN.
tipping threads are the best on BBI.  
pjcas18 : 12/19/2014 12:15 pm : link
I did have s tipping dilemma a couple weeks ago that made me think of this place.

Got a new washing machine from Lowe's. Two guys brought it in, removed the old one, installed/connected the new one, tested it, cleaned up and left, no the way out I gave the two guys each $10. They were appreciative.

I asked them to place the new washer on the old pedestal, they told me they couldn't, it voids the warranty. I said ok, no big deal I guess.

I checked Lowe's website and all 27" washing machines from LG use the same pedestal. It was a few hundred dollars. I called Lowe's and they said, what? that's totally not true that it voids the warranty.

Anyway, they said they'd give me a new pedestal. the same delivery guys show up and install the pedestal which was free for me, was I supposed to tip them again?

I didn't, but they worked hard and apparently the delivery company had the wrong instructions for them, it doesn't void the warranty, but they don't connect it due to safety issues - I need to.
Heard on the news last week  
Beer Man : 12/19/2014 12:20 pm : link
when this topic was discussed that the mail carries are not allowed to take money, but that you can give them gift cards.
I've never seen my mail carrier or trash guys.  
Cam in MO : 12/19/2014 12:30 pm : link
But as far as trash- we generate about one bag a week and fill up the recycling bin about once a month.

So the tip they get from me is that they only collect from my house once a month

Sometimes I give my gf just the tip, tho.

How does one  
Rick5 : 12/19/2014 5:41 pm : link
Go about tipping a sanitation worker? I never see them and don't even know if the same guys are picking up the trash each week. I tip the newspaper delivery guy. That's about it.
RE: Tipping mail deliverers?  
nygnyy274 : 12/19/2014 8:53 pm : link
In comment 12042495 Psycho said:
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As someone else pointed out, they are federal employees and as such are already incredibly overpaid for doing something a twelve year old could do. And don't forget their incredibly generous compensation packages that I would dare say embarrasses those in the private sector. And for the most part their service is shitty. Did everyone see that video of the postal worker throwing the package on the porch so he wouldn't have to walk up the stairs???

There are many more deserving people, such as teachers and military people, but hell no to postal workers!


So because one jackass did that you think all postal employees do it?? You are probably the same inconsiderate person who doesn't clear your walkway so these people can pick up your garbage or deleiver your mail.. And yes deleivering Mail is such a easy job 12 year olds can do it smh!!! you would not last a week doing either job. Not as easy as your think and the amount of B.S that comes with the jobs
I tip my sanitation workers  
TommyWiseau : 12/21/2014 7:44 pm : link
Because they go above and beyond what they are obligated to do for me and my family. They don't have to take the couch I put out, I'm supposed to call special pickup for that but they do anyway. To shit on post office workers salaries then say Teachers are underpaid.. well my Aunt is a teacher on Long Island and makes well over six figures. Are some underpaid? Yes, but not all.. especially over here.
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