my chauffeur $1000 flat. My doorman gets $500, the au pair usually gets $1000 also. My manservant, Horatio, gets $5000 but I really couldn't live without his service. He always seems to go out of his way for me about this time of year.
my chauffeur $1000 flat. My doorman gets $500, the au pair usually gets $1000 also. My manservant, Horatio, gets $5000 but I really couldn't live without his service. He always seems to go out of his way for me about this time of year.
Garbage men about $25 each and give them a bottle. Mailman gets about $40. My neighbor always complains that the garbage men take everything I put out, when the weather is bad they bring the garbage up my driveway. Told the cheap bastard to tip them
We usually give our mail-lady a $20 gift card... Â
I really don't... I grew up in Oceanside NY... Oceanside Sanitation members make outstanding money, They aren't like waiters or waitresses who need the tips to live their life. Why in the name of god must they be tipped?
I am a HS teacher... I spend more time with my students than the majority of their parents do... I don't get, nor do I EXPECT a gift or a tip around the holidays; I get paid to do a job and I do it.
Why do we tip people for doing their job???
That being said... I give the newspaper guy (2 day a week delivery) 10 bucks; The maintenance guys in my building 100 each; and the secretaries at work get a bottle of wine each.
I do it, but I don't get why I do it.
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Garbage men about $25 each and give them a bottle. Mailman gets about $40. My neighbor always complains that the garbage men take everything I put out, when the weather is bad they bring the garbage up my driveway. Told the cheap bastard to tip them
See this is bullshit!!!
They get paid to take your garbage... You shouldn't need to tip them for them to do what they are already paid to do!!! This is the problem with society... and don't give me the whole "They work outside and its cold blah blah blah" argument... Do you TIP the contractor that re-does your roof? The guy who builds your deck, or puts up vinyl siding? NOOOOOOOOO of course you don't you pay them for the job they do... this stuff really grinds my gears!!!
$40, it used to be $20, but we moved in June and I had a ton of stuff I couldn't leave in the house and I was going to have to haul to the transfer station.
He heard my wife and i discussing it and asked what we had it was all old paint cans, fertilizer, and stuff like that I assumed couldn't be thrown in the trash. He said, no, we could throw it in the trash (as long as the paint was dry, etc.) and he helped us clean out the garage.
He's also helped in other ways, I broke my foot playing hockey and he knew it, so he walked the trash cans back up to the garage door.
We tip sports coaches (they're mostly volunteer), mail carriers, bus drivers, and a couple more people mostly the $10 - $25 range and buy gifts for the kids teachers.
so you don't get screwed the rest of the year....you're giving them a little boost just to say "hey don't deliver my mail to my neighbor"...and "don't leave my garbage cans in the middle of the street and spill garbage on my lawn"
Garbage men about $25 each and give them a bottle. Mailman gets about $40. My neighbor always complains that the garbage men take everything I put out, when the weather is bad they bring the garbage up my driveway. Told the cheap bastard to tip them
See this is bullshit!!!
They get paid to take your garbage... You shouldn't need to tip them for them to do what they are already paid to do!!! This is the problem with society... and don't give me the whole "They work outside and its cold blah blah blah" argument... Do you TIP the contractor that re-does your roof? The guy who builds your deck, or puts up vinyl siding? NOOOOOOOOO of course you don't you pay them for the job they do... this stuff really grinds my gears!!!
The crew who built my shed got $100, the guys who put in my pool got $200, the movers got $50 each. The delivery people who come to the house get $20
you have to tip laborers (unless it's like a plumber who owns the business).
As someone else pointed out, they are federal employees and as such are already incredibly overpaid for doing something a twelve year old could do. And don't forget their incredibly generous compensation packages that I would dare say embarrasses those in the private sector. And for the most part their service is shitty. Did everyone see that video of the postal worker throwing the package on the porch so he wouldn't have to walk up the stairs???
There are many more deserving people, such as teachers and military people, but hell no to postal workers!
I tip a lot of people around the holidays, but not the city/federal Â
workers. I agree, they're compensated well to do their jobs, and in my case I've never seen them do anything above and beyond the call of duty to merit being tipped.
Service workers, laborers, volunteers - are all either working on the premise that a good part of their compensation is coming from tips, or you're tipping them to get better service out of them. My mailman's about as useless as they come, and after a few years of tipping him in the beginning, I decided I was better off just keeping the cash. Haven't been any worse off as a result.
out mail carrier (it's a woman) is great and does go above and beyond, my kids mail crap with no stamps, she'll put a stamp on and send it, she makes sure packages all come to the door (and technically she doesn't have to) if it's raining she'll put them in plastic or under an eave so they don't get wet. in general she's friendly, competent, and I do feel does things not required by her job.
the teachers are the one to question, since while my kids love their teachers, I believe they are doing their job and nothing more. Yet I'll never not give the kids teachers a gift.
What's up with all of this hate on federal workers? Â
sent me a letter asking for a $25 "contribution" and outlined how it would be used. After that, I would get a beautiful calendar.
No "thank you for being a customer", just a basic "times are difficult" letter. I am mulling over what to do. I suppose I will send along $15 and bag the calendar.
I must admit, that is a first for me. A tip solicitation.
And the military is considered federal employee as well... Â
what most compensation federal employees really get...other than what gets passed around in spam emails that is.
Yeah...somehow I doubt that they know, especially those, who don't recognize that the military is federal employment also...and comparatively, they are compensated pretty damn well.
I suppose some of that is going to be dependent on setting Â
I can't pick my mailman out of a lineup - he doesn't speak English, and the few times I've seen him, it was work to get a 'hello' out of him.
The sanitation guys are pretty much the same deal - not the same guys for the most part (2 days a week of garbage collection, a different crew for each). I've put garbage out well within the city's regulation and had them leave it behind (only to take it the following week, go figure).
The teachers I almost always give something, but only because I know teachers in NYC are always putting in some kind of out of pocket money into the classroom because of cuts, and I feel they deserve at least that much in return.
I shouldn't have said that about teachers - to me it's not a tip for teachers, it's a gift, not sure there's a difference there, but the intent isn't the same.
the military is a tough one, as a family of a long line of veterans we'd love to show our gratitude, but so far the only thing we've been able to do is adopt a soldier around the holidays, and it's made my kids feel good, and the soldier we adopt is always super polite and seem appreciative, but just not sure how to do more.
You buy them Starbucks, thank them for being the real heroes, and casually point out the nearby gas station run by that very suspicious looking Pakistani.
That being said... I give the newspaper guy (2 day a week delivery) 10 bucks; The maintenance guys in my building 100 each; and the secretaries at work get a bottle of wine each.
I do it, but I don't get why I do it.
You tip the secretaries so you can blast them in the butt. I have no idea why you tip the other people.
I have no idea when my mail arrives because I'm at work. The garbagemen don't even have to get out of the truck anymore. They just drive by and a big mechanical arm picks up the can and dumps it into the truck.
I've never heard of tipping anyone at Christmas. We get little gifts for our kids' teachers and that's it.
Postal workers are overpaid for what they have to do. I know a postal worker who has been on trips with our group. She won't say what she makes because in the past it had pissed so many people off, she just says you don't want to know.
And, no, before the knives come out, it was not me who asked her.
out mail carrier (it's a woman) is great and does go above and beyond, my kids mail crap with no stamps, she'll put a stamp on and send it, she makes sure packages all come to the door (and technically she doesn't have to) if it's raining she'll put them in plastic or under an eave so they don't get wet. in general she's friendly, competent, and I do feel does things not required by her job.
So let me get this straight, a mailwoman may pop a 32 cent stamp on something or put a plastic bag around a package so she gets a tip, but you DON'T THINK YOUR KIDS TEACHER THAT IS WITH YOUR CHILD FOR 8 HOURS A DAY IS JUST DOING HER JOB!?!?!?!?!?!?
the teachers are the one to question, since while my kids love their teachers, I believe they are doing their job and nothing more. Yet I'll never not give the kids teachers a gift.
Postal workers are overpaid for what they have to do. I know a postal worker who has been on trips with our group. She won't say what she makes because in the past it had pissed so many people off, she just says you don't want to know.
And, no, before the knives come out, it was not me who asked her.
And for your clueless ass, the point is that the military being underpaid is a BS.
and most people tip him. It's not just about "doing their jobs" but the extra stuff. For example, he buys boxes of dog treats each week to feed to the dogs ( mainly so they don't bit! ) and most customers appreciate stuff like that.
as I said though, my kids teachers get a gift, not sure if you read that far or if the outrage blinded you.
Dude, you said that your kids teacher does her job and nothing more... I don't think teachers need to get gifts, I teach HS and I don't EXPECT or think I deserve more than what I get paid. I feel very fortunate to have the job I do. I took umbrage with the fact that you don't think your kids teacher simply does her job! I am assuming your child is in elementary school where they spend 8 hours with their teacher. How many hours a day do you spend with your kid? How many times do you crack open a beer or pour yourself a drink at the end of the night exhausted after spending a mere 2-3 hours with your kid after you get home from work... Saying that teachers simply "do their jobs" is insulting!
I tip the trash haulers more generously. They go above and beyond, by taking stuff they might ordinarily not be expected to take. I tip the newspaper delivery guy as well.
I have no idea when my mail arrives because I'm at work. The garbagemen don't even have to get out of the truck anymore. They just drive by and a big mechanical arm picks up the can and dumps it into the truck.
I've never heard of tipping anyone at Christmas. We get little gifts for our kids' teachers and that's it.
Amen. I couldn't pick my mailman or garbage man out of a lineup if my life depended on it. The money I have to spend on the holidays goes to family and friends. Not people simply doing their jobs.
My point, and it should have been a compliment, not an insult (though it did not come out that way) is that teachers are more a profession where I give a gift to, not a tip.
tipping I feel is more appropriate for laborer-type professions, with generally (but not always) lower wages and not as professional as teachers.
My point, and it should have been a compliment, not an insult (though it did not come out that way) is that teachers are more a profession where I give a gift to, not a tip.
tipping I feel is more appropriate for laborer-type professions, with generally (but not always) lower wages and not as professional as teachers.
I didn't mean it as n insult
All good my man... easy to misinterpret things on a computer
and we add something like a Starbucks gift card (there is a limit to monetary gifts to teachers in our town).
Tip mail carriers and garbage men - it isn't about who does their job or who you have a personal relationship with, its about recognizing and saying thank you to people who have helped make your life easier - $18 bottle of win, $10 Starbucks gift card, $4 greeting card, whatever...
Nothing wrong with gifting the teacher (though I think money is a little weird).
There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
Nothing wrong with gifting the teacher (though I think money is a little weird).
There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
Thanks Mike. I agree 100% yet as a teacher I NEVER expect a gift. Not disparaging the garbage man, but they do their job, their job is to remove garbage to make your life easier, they accepted a job for the salary they get paid. I don't see why they need to be tipped... I just don't. Where does it end... The guy that measures you for a suit makes your life easier... do you tip him? Police officers that work in your neighborhood? Librarians? Bank teller? The guy that makes sure the coffee is fresh in 7-11? I just think it gets to the point where it is insane.
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Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
I like Frank Sinatra way of carrying a fist full of Â
Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
I go less by who employs them and how they're compensated for their jobs, and whether tips are expected for their particular role.
A sanitation worker in NYC earns about $75k a year in base salary after a few years on the job, and can easily add 20-50% to that through overtime. They've got better benefits than most private sector employees, and a solid pension that kicks in after 25 years.
To me, that's fair compensation for the service they perform, and in my case, they're doing nothing above and beyond their job (and I wouldn't expect them to).
Now, my cleaning lady? The kids coaches? The assistants at work? The countless others that I'm reliant upon, day in and day out, I'll gladly tip them, in part because they're usually not compensated as well (and in part because tips are expected to fill that out, not unlike a waiter) and in part because I interact with them more and I want to express my gratitude for a job well done.
In the case of the sanitation workers, it's more like a job, done.
I think I should get an automatic bump up to First Class whenever I fly. Fuck you and you're not patriotic if you disagree!
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WTF? He should be pissed! Those unpatriotic and ungrateful assholes thinking that their security comes without people like him providing it to them.
tipping your doctors and nurses, who keep your loved ones and yourself alive?
When my daughter was in the pediatric emergency ward for three days with horrible staph infection, the doctors and nurses were amazing. We sent them a nice card and a gift certificates to the local restaurant so that they can at least get a nice lunch. Ah well.
I think it demeans the workers and perverts the economy. Think about waiters -- we tip them because they're underpaid. They're underpaid because they get tips. Or, more accurately, they're underpaid because restaurants can get away with paying 2nd/3rd world wages because of this stupid tipping shit.
It's also uncomfortable to tip. How many people have shooed away a bell boy because they can get their bags to the room easily and dont want to bother with digging out a couple of bucks per bag for some guy to take the bags that you got into the lobby of the hotel, put them on a cart, push the cart up and down some halls and in an elevator, and dump the bags in the room. So you dont use a service the hotel wants you to use as a luxury. Im sure the bell hop would much rather have a higher salary and not have to bother standing there waiting for a guest to rummage thru their purse/bags to get to money when they've just gotten to their room.
It is also economically inefficient. Think of the 20% tip at a restaurant. I eat a meal for $150 per person for food. Now add wine -- I could get a $50 bottle or a $300 bottle. Same work for the waiter, but I tip $10 on the cheap bottle and $60 on the expensive bottle? What if $360 for wine is just not worth it, so I go for the $60 total wine. The restaurant just lost $250 in sales because of its stupid tipping policy.
I wish we didnt do tips. Businesses should pay appropriate wages and price labor into the cost to customer, rather than this awkward semi-moralistic tipping stuff.
F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
don't know how we made it this far without a Mr Pink appearance Â
F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
Pfft, Marine weekend warrior....ok you get steerage. Wait, planes don't have steerage.
I would get a few gifts every year. Nothing big, but it was special for the child to give their teacher a present. But I never expected it.
When I transitioned to being a school librarian, I spent a year in a Catholic school, and holy cow! I got gifts, treats, and close to $200 in gift cards. I can only imagine what the classroom teachers, who see the same kids for hours each day, was getting.
Last year, I started as a librarian in DC and don't get anything from the kids. Well, except for hugs from the little ones, which can be just as special (even if they are little germ monsters).
I did have s tipping dilemma a couple weeks ago that made me think of this place.
Got a new washing machine from Lowe's. Two guys brought it in, removed the old one, installed/connected the new one, tested it, cleaned up and left, no the way out I gave the two guys each $10. They were appreciative.
I asked them to place the new washer on the old pedestal, they told me they couldn't, it voids the warranty. I said ok, no big deal I guess.
I checked Lowe's website and all 27" washing machines from LG use the same pedestal. It was a few hundred dollars. I called Lowe's and they said, what? that's totally not true that it voids the warranty.
Anyway, they said they'd give me a new pedestal. the same delivery guys show up and install the pedestal which was free for me, was I supposed to tip them again?
I didn't, but they worked hard and apparently the delivery company had the wrong instructions for them, it doesn't void the warranty, but they don't connect it due to safety issues - I need to.
Go about tipping a sanitation worker? I never see them and don't even know if the same guys are picking up the trash each week. I tip the newspaper delivery guy. That's about it.
As someone else pointed out, they are federal employees and as such are already incredibly overpaid for doing something a twelve year old could do. And don't forget their incredibly generous compensation packages that I would dare say embarrasses those in the private sector. And for the most part their service is shitty. Did everyone see that video of the postal worker throwing the package on the porch so he wouldn't have to walk up the stairs???
There are many more deserving people, such as teachers and military people, but hell no to postal workers!
So because one jackass did that you think all postal employees do it?? You are probably the same inconsiderate person who doesn't clear your walkway so these people can pick up your garbage or deleiver your mail.. And yes deleivering Mail is such a easy job 12 year olds can do it smh!!! you would not last a week doing either job. Not as easy as your think and the amount of B.S that comes with the jobs
Because they go above and beyond what they are obligated to do for me and my family. They don't have to take the couch I put out, I'm supposed to call special pickup for that but they do anyway. To shit on post office workers salaries then say Teachers are underpaid.. well my Aunt is a teacher on Long Island and makes well over six figures. Are some underpaid? Yes, but not all.. especially over here.
Does the mailman take it? I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to accept gifts over 20 bucks.
Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio.
Our wast management folks change all the time, so we don't give them gifts.
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My Waste Management team $20/person. Mail carrier $40 visa gift card.
Does the mailman take it? I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to accept gifts over 20 bucks.
absolutely correct....and I think it's grounds for firing if they do accept....not that anyone cares or would follow through with it
$50 visa gift card for our cleaning lady
i don't usually tip the mailman or garbage people as i never see them and are compensated handsomely.
A fellow of infinite jest! Of most excellent fancy!
I am a HS teacher... I spend more time with my students than the majority of their parents do... I don't get, nor do I EXPECT a gift or a tip around the holidays; I get paid to do a job and I do it.
Why do we tip people for doing their job???
That being said... I give the newspaper guy (2 day a week delivery) 10 bucks; The maintenance guys in my building 100 each; and the secretaries at work get a bottle of wine each.
I do it, but I don't get why I do it.
Our wast management folks change all the time, so we don't give them gifts.
Barnes & Noble? Why not just give her a gift card to Circuit City?
See this is bullshit!!!
They get paid to take your garbage... You shouldn't need to tip them for them to do what they are already paid to do!!! This is the problem with society... and don't give me the whole "They work outside and its cold blah blah blah" argument... Do you TIP the contractor that re-does your roof? The guy who builds your deck, or puts up vinyl siding? NOOOOOOOOO of course you don't you pay them for the job they do... this stuff really grinds my gears!!!
He heard my wife and i discussing it and asked what we had it was all old paint cans, fertilizer, and stuff like that I assumed couldn't be thrown in the trash. He said, no, we could throw it in the trash (as long as the paint was dry, etc.) and he helped us clean out the garage.
He's also helped in other ways, I broke my foot playing hockey and he knew it, so he walked the trash cans back up to the garage door.
We tip sports coaches (they're mostly volunteer), mail carriers, bus drivers, and a couple more people mostly the $10 - $25 range and buy gifts for the kids teachers.
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Garbage men about $25 each and give them a bottle. Mailman gets about $40. My neighbor always complains that the garbage men take everything I put out, when the weather is bad they bring the garbage up my driveway. Told the cheap bastard to tip them
See this is bullshit!!!
They get paid to take your garbage... You shouldn't need to tip them for them to do what they are already paid to do!!! This is the problem with society... and don't give me the whole "They work outside and its cold blah blah blah" argument... Do you TIP the contractor that re-does your roof? The guy who builds your deck, or puts up vinyl siding? NOOOOOOOOO of course you don't you pay them for the job they do... this stuff really grinds my gears!!!
The crew who built my shed got $100, the guys who put in my pool got $200, the movers got $50 each. The delivery people who come to the house get $20
you have to tip laborers (unless it's like a plumber who owns the business).
There are many more deserving people, such as teachers and military people, but hell no to postal workers!
Service workers, laborers, volunteers - are all either working on the premise that a good part of their compensation is coming from tips, or you're tipping them to get better service out of them. My mailman's about as useless as they come, and after a few years of tipping him in the beginning, I decided I was better off just keeping the cash. Haven't been any worse off as a result.
the teachers are the one to question, since while my kids love their teachers, I believe they are doing their job and nothing more. Yet I'll never not give the kids teachers a gift.
I get it that you don't want to tip them, but let's not make it sound like these are idiots getting paid to do nothing.
And no, I'm not a federal employee.
No "thank you for being a customer", just a basic "times are difficult" letter. I am mulling over what to do. I suppose I will send along $15 and bag the calendar.
I must admit, that is a first for me. A tip solicitation.
Yeah...somehow I doubt that they know, especially those, who don't recognize that the military is federal employment also...and comparatively, they are compensated pretty damn well.
The sanitation guys are pretty much the same deal - not the same guys for the most part (2 days a week of garbage collection, a different crew for each). I've put garbage out well within the city's regulation and had them leave it behind (only to take it the following week, go figure).
The teachers I almost always give something, but only because I know teachers in NYC are always putting in some kind of out of pocket money into the classroom because of cuts, and I feel they deserve at least that much in return.
the military is a tough one, as a family of a long line of veterans we'd love to show our gratitude, but so far the only thing we've been able to do is adopt a soldier around the holidays, and it's made my kids feel good, and the soldier we adopt is always super polite and seem appreciative, but just not sure how to do more.
Why do we tip people for doing their job???
That being said... I give the newspaper guy (2 day a week delivery) 10 bucks; The maintenance guys in my building 100 each; and the secretaries at work get a bottle of wine each.
I do it, but I don't get why I do it.
You tip the secretaries so you can blast them in the butt. I have no idea why you tip the other people.
I've never heard of tipping anyone at Christmas. We get little gifts for our kids' teachers and that's it.
Postal workers are overpaid for what they have to do. I know a postal worker who has been on trips with our group. She won't say what she makes because in the past it had pissed so many people off, she just says you don't want to know.
And, no, before the knives come out, it was not me who asked her.
So let me get this straight, a mailwoman may pop a 32 cent stamp on something or put a plastic bag around a package so she gets a tip, but you DON'T THINK YOUR KIDS TEACHER THAT IS WITH YOUR CHILD FOR 8 HOURS A DAY IS JUST DOING HER JOB!?!?!?!?!?!?
the teachers are the one to question, since while my kids love their teachers, I believe they are doing their job and nothing more. Yet I'll never not give the kids teachers a gift.
as I said though, my kids teachers get a gift, not sure if you read that far or if the outrage blinded you.
Postal workers are overpaid for what they have to do. I know a postal worker who has been on trips with our group. She won't say what she makes because in the past it had pissed so many people off, she just says you don't want to know.
And, no, before the knives come out, it was not me who asked her.
And for your clueless ass, the point is that the military being underpaid is a BS.
as I said though, my kids teachers get a gift, not sure if you read that far or if the outrage blinded you.
Dude, you said that your kids teacher does her job and nothing more... I don't think teachers need to get gifts, I teach HS and I don't EXPECT or think I deserve more than what I get paid. I feel very fortunate to have the job I do. I took umbrage with the fact that you don't think your kids teacher simply does her job! I am assuming your child is in elementary school where they spend 8 hours with their teacher. How many hours a day do you spend with your kid? How many times do you crack open a beer or pour yourself a drink at the end of the night exhausted after spending a mere 2-3 hours with your kid after you get home from work... Saying that teachers simply "do their jobs" is insulting!
I've never heard of tipping anyone at Christmas. We get little gifts for our kids' teachers and that's it.
Amen. I couldn't pick my mailman or garbage man out of a lineup if my life depended on it. The money I have to spend on the holidays goes to family and friends. Not people simply doing their jobs.
My point, and it should have been a compliment, not an insult (though it did not come out that way) is that teachers are more a profession where I give a gift to, not a tip.
tipping I feel is more appropriate for laborer-type professions, with generally (but not always) lower wages and not as professional as teachers.
I didn't mean it as n insult
My point, and it should have been a compliment, not an insult (though it did not come out that way) is that teachers are more a profession where I give a gift to, not a tip.
tipping I feel is more appropriate for laborer-type professions, with generally (but not always) lower wages and not as professional as teachers.
I didn't mean it as n insult
All good my man... easy to misinterpret things on a computer
Should we tip Eric???
I hate people that hate to give tips...
I hate people that hate to give tips...
I don't hate giving tips, I just love not giving them.
Never tipped anyone in my life!
Tip mail carriers and garbage men - it isn't about who does their job or who you have a personal relationship with, its about recognizing and saying thank you to people who have helped make your life easier - $18 bottle of win, $10 Starbucks gift card, $4 greeting card, whatever...
as I said though, my kids teachers get a gift, not sure if you read that far or if the outrage blinded you.
A teacher is defined as a person who teaches, especially in a school. So let's assume we consider that their primary job responsibility.
Hmmm...maybe you should be nicer to the kids?...;) Just messing with you.
I agree though that no one should expect a gift, so getting one feels far better.
There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
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and neither does anyone else.. except for maybe a Dunkin Donuts card for the teacher..
Hmmm...maybe you should be nicer to the kids?...;) Just messing with you.
I agree though that no one should expect a gift, so getting one feels far better.
My Son is spoiled rotten ; )
There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
Thanks Mike. I agree 100% yet as a teacher I NEVER expect a gift. Not disparaging the garbage man, but they do their job, their job is to remove garbage to make your life easier, they accepted a job for the salary they get paid. I don't see why they need to be tipped... I just don't. Where does it end... The guy that measures you for a suit makes your life easier... do you tip him? Police officers that work in your neighborhood? Librarians? Bank teller? The guy that makes sure the coffee is fresh in 7-11? I just think it gets to the point where it is insane.
I tip every person that I am complaining about tipping, but its just at the point where it's silly...
And I'm sure on the flipside, the moral superiority that comes from giving a garbage man $10 is well worth the money.
Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
I go less by who employs them and how they're compensated for their jobs, and whether tips are expected for their particular role.
A sanitation worker in NYC earns about $75k a year in base salary after a few years on the job, and can easily add 20-50% to that through overtime. They've got better benefits than most private sector employees, and a solid pension that kicks in after 25 years.
To me, that's fair compensation for the service they perform, and in my case, they're doing nothing above and beyond their job (and I wouldn't expect them to).
Now, my cleaning lady? The kids coaches? The assistants at work? The countless others that I'm reliant upon, day in and day out, I'll gladly tip them, in part because they're usually not compensated as well (and in part because tips are expected to fill that out, not unlike a waiter) and in part because I interact with them more and I want to express my gratitude for a job well done.
In the case of the sanitation workers, it's more like a job, done.
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I also give my building superintendent $100 gift card.
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WTF? He should be pissed! Those unpatriotic and ungrateful assholes thinking that their security comes without people like him providing it to them.
F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
When my daughter was in the pediatric emergency ward for three days with horrible staph infection, the doctors and nurses were amazing. We sent them a nice card and a gift certificates to the local restaurant so that they can at least get a nice lunch. Ah well.
It's also uncomfortable to tip. How many people have shooed away a bell boy because they can get their bags to the room easily and dont want to bother with digging out a couple of bucks per bag for some guy to take the bags that you got into the lobby of the hotel, put them on a cart, push the cart up and down some halls and in an elevator, and dump the bags in the room. So you dont use a service the hotel wants you to use as a luxury. Im sure the bell hop would much rather have a higher salary and not have to bother standing there waiting for a guest to rummage thru their purse/bags to get to money when they've just gotten to their room.
It is also economically inefficient. Think of the 20% tip at a restaurant. I eat a meal for $150 per person for food. Now add wine -- I could get a $50 bottle or a $300 bottle. Same work for the waiter, but I tip $10 on the cheap bottle and $60 on the expensive bottle? What if $360 for wine is just not worth it, so I go for the $60 total wine. The restaurant just lost $250 in sales because of its stupid tipping policy.
I wish we didnt do tips. Businesses should pay appropriate wages and price labor into the cost to customer, rather than this awkward semi-moralistic tipping stuff.
Other than that, fuck tipping.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
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F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
Pfft, Marine weekend warrior....ok you get steerage. Wait, planes don't have steerage.
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When I transitioned to being a school librarian, I spent a year in a Catholic school, and holy cow! I got gifts, treats, and close to $200 in gift cards. I can only imagine what the classroom teachers, who see the same kids for hours each day, was getting.
Last year, I started as a librarian in DC and don't get anything from the kids. Well, except for hugs from the little ones, which can be just as special (even if they are little germ monsters).
Got a new washing machine from Lowe's. Two guys brought it in, removed the old one, installed/connected the new one, tested it, cleaned up and left, no the way out I gave the two guys each $10. They were appreciative.
I asked them to place the new washer on the old pedestal, they told me they couldn't, it voids the warranty. I said ok, no big deal I guess.
I checked Lowe's website and all 27" washing machines from LG use the same pedestal. It was a few hundred dollars. I called Lowe's and they said, what? that's totally not true that it voids the warranty.
Anyway, they said they'd give me a new pedestal. the same delivery guys show up and install the pedestal which was free for me, was I supposed to tip them again?
I didn't, but they worked hard and apparently the delivery company had the wrong instructions for them, it doesn't void the warranty, but they don't connect it due to safety issues - I need to.
So the tip they get from me is that they only collect from my house once a month
Sometimes I give my gf just the tip, tho.
There are many more deserving people, such as teachers and military people, but hell no to postal workers!
So because one jackass did that you think all postal employees do it?? You are probably the same inconsiderate person who doesn't clear your walkway so these people can pick up your garbage or deleiver your mail.. And yes deleivering Mail is such a easy job 12 year olds can do it smh!!! you would not last a week doing either job. Not as easy as your think and the amount of B.S that comes with the jobs