Nothing wrong with gifting the teacher (though I think money is a little weird).
There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
Nothing wrong with gifting the teacher (though I think money is a little weird).
There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
Thanks Mike. I agree 100% yet as a teacher I NEVER expect a gift. Not disparaging the garbage man, but they do their job, their job is to remove garbage to make your life easier, they accepted a job for the salary they get paid. I don't see why they need to be tipped... I just don't. Where does it end... The guy that measures you for a suit makes your life easier... do you tip him? Police officers that work in your neighborhood? Librarians? Bank teller? The guy that makes sure the coffee is fresh in 7-11? I just think it gets to the point where it is insane.
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Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
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Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
I go less by who employs them and how they're compensated for their jobs, and whether tips are expected for their particular role.
A sanitation worker in NYC earns about $75k a year in base salary after a few years on the job, and can easily add 20-50% to that through overtime. They've got better benefits than most private sector employees, and a solid pension that kicks in after 25 years.
To me, that's fair compensation for the service they perform, and in my case, they're doing nothing above and beyond their job (and I wouldn't expect them to).
Now, my cleaning lady? The kids coaches? The assistants at work? The countless others that I'm reliant upon, day in and day out, I'll gladly tip them, in part because they're usually not compensated as well (and in part because tips are expected to fill that out, not unlike a waiter) and in part because I interact with them more and I want to express my gratitude for a job well done.
In the case of the sanitation workers, it's more like a job, done.
I think I should get an automatic bump up to First Class whenever I fly. Fuck you and you're not patriotic if you disagree!
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WTF? He should be pissed! Those unpatriotic and ungrateful assholes thinking that their security comes without people like him providing it to them.
tipping your doctors and nurses, who keep your loved ones and yourself alive?
When my daughter was in the pediatric emergency ward for three days with horrible staph infection, the doctors and nurses were amazing. We sent them a nice card and a gift certificates to the local restaurant so that they can at least get a nice lunch. Ah well.
I think it demeans the workers and perverts the economy. Think about waiters -- we tip them because they're underpaid. They're underpaid because they get tips. Or, more accurately, they're underpaid because restaurants can get away with paying 2nd/3rd world wages because of this stupid tipping shit.
It's also uncomfortable to tip. How many people have shooed away a bell boy because they can get their bags to the room easily and dont want to bother with digging out a couple of bucks per bag for some guy to take the bags that you got into the lobby of the hotel, put them on a cart, push the cart up and down some halls and in an elevator, and dump the bags in the room. So you dont use a service the hotel wants you to use as a luxury. Im sure the bell hop would much rather have a higher salary and not have to bother standing there waiting for a guest to rummage thru their purse/bags to get to money when they've just gotten to their room.
It is also economically inefficient. Think of the 20% tip at a restaurant. I eat a meal for $150 per person for food. Now add wine -- I could get a $50 bottle or a $300 bottle. Same work for the waiter, but I tip $10 on the cheap bottle and $60 on the expensive bottle? What if $360 for wine is just not worth it, so I go for the $60 total wine. The restaurant just lost $250 in sales because of its stupid tipping policy.
I wish we didnt do tips. Businesses should pay appropriate wages and price labor into the cost to customer, rather than this awkward semi-moralistic tipping stuff.
F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
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F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
Pfft, Marine weekend warrior....ok you get steerage. Wait, planes don't have steerage.
I would get a few gifts every year. Nothing big, but it was special for the child to give their teacher a present. But I never expected it.
When I transitioned to being a school librarian, I spent a year in a Catholic school, and holy cow! I got gifts, treats, and close to $200 in gift cards. I can only imagine what the classroom teachers, who see the same kids for hours each day, was getting.
Last year, I started as a librarian in DC and don't get anything from the kids. Well, except for hugs from the little ones, which can be just as special (even if they are little germ monsters).
I did have s tipping dilemma a couple weeks ago that made me think of this place.
Got a new washing machine from Lowe's. Two guys brought it in, removed the old one, installed/connected the new one, tested it, cleaned up and left, no the way out I gave the two guys each $10. They were appreciative.
I asked them to place the new washer on the old pedestal, they told me they couldn't, it voids the warranty. I said ok, no big deal I guess.
I checked Lowe's website and all 27" washing machines from LG use the same pedestal. It was a few hundred dollars. I called Lowe's and they said, what? that's totally not true that it voids the warranty.
Anyway, they said they'd give me a new pedestal. the same delivery guys show up and install the pedestal which was free for me, was I supposed to tip them again?
I didn't, but they worked hard and apparently the delivery company had the wrong instructions for them, it doesn't void the warranty, but they don't connect it due to safety issues - I need to.
Go about tipping a sanitation worker? I never see them and don't even know if the same guys are picking up the trash each week. I tip the newspaper delivery guy. That's about it.
As someone else pointed out, they are federal employees and as such are already incredibly overpaid for doing something a twelve year old could do. And don't forget their incredibly generous compensation packages that I would dare say embarrasses those in the private sector. And for the most part their service is shitty. Did everyone see that video of the postal worker throwing the package on the porch so he wouldn't have to walk up the stairs???
There are many more deserving people, such as teachers and military people, but hell no to postal workers!
So because one jackass did that you think all postal employees do it?? You are probably the same inconsiderate person who doesn't clear your walkway so these people can pick up your garbage or deleiver your mail.. And yes deleivering Mail is such a easy job 12 year olds can do it smh!!! you would not last a week doing either job. Not as easy as your think and the amount of B.S that comes with the jobs
Because they go above and beyond what they are obligated to do for me and my family. They don't have to take the couch I put out, I'm supposed to call special pickup for that but they do anyway. To shit on post office workers salaries then say Teachers are underpaid.. well my Aunt is a teacher on Long Island and makes well over six figures. Are some underpaid? Yes, but not all.. especially over here.
There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
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and neither does anyone else.. except for maybe a Dunkin Donuts card for the teacher..
Hmmm...maybe you should be nicer to the kids?...;) Just messing with you.
I agree though that no one should expect a gift, so getting one feels far better.
My Son is spoiled rotten ; )
There is a massive, massive difference between someone who spends 8 hours with your child every day and someone who takes out your garbage. This isn't to say they don't deserve respect, they do, but they don't deserve anything beyond their salary from a money standpoint unless for some reason you have a personal relationship with him/her.
Thanks Mike. I agree 100% yet as a teacher I NEVER expect a gift. Not disparaging the garbage man, but they do their job, their job is to remove garbage to make your life easier, they accepted a job for the salary they get paid. I don't see why they need to be tipped... I just don't. Where does it end... The guy that measures you for a suit makes your life easier... do you tip him? Police officers that work in your neighborhood? Librarians? Bank teller? The guy that makes sure the coffee is fresh in 7-11? I just think it gets to the point where it is insane.
I tip every person that I am complaining about tipping, but its just at the point where it's silly...
And I'm sure on the flipside, the moral superiority that comes from giving a garbage man $10 is well worth the money.
Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
Does that change people's attitudes towards giving a gift to your mailmen, garbagemen, teachers, etc.? Whether they're federal, state, local, or private employees, giving gifts to them shouldn't hinge on who employs them, no?
I go less by who employs them and how they're compensated for their jobs, and whether tips are expected for their particular role.
A sanitation worker in NYC earns about $75k a year in base salary after a few years on the job, and can easily add 20-50% to that through overtime. They've got better benefits than most private sector employees, and a solid pension that kicks in after 25 years.
To me, that's fair compensation for the service they perform, and in my case, they're doing nothing above and beyond their job (and I wouldn't expect them to).
Now, my cleaning lady? The kids coaches? The assistants at work? The countless others that I'm reliant upon, day in and day out, I'll gladly tip them, in part because they're usually not compensated as well (and in part because tips are expected to fill that out, not unlike a waiter) and in part because I interact with them more and I want to express my gratitude for a job well done.
In the case of the sanitation workers, it's more like a job, done.
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I also give my building superintendent $100 gift card.
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WTF? He should be pissed! Those unpatriotic and ungrateful assholes thinking that their security comes without people like him providing it to them.
F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
When my daughter was in the pediatric emergency ward for three days with horrible staph infection, the doctors and nurses were amazing. We sent them a nice card and a gift certificates to the local restaurant so that they can at least get a nice lunch. Ah well.
It's also uncomfortable to tip. How many people have shooed away a bell boy because they can get their bags to the room easily and dont want to bother with digging out a couple of bucks per bag for some guy to take the bags that you got into the lobby of the hotel, put them on a cart, push the cart up and down some halls and in an elevator, and dump the bags in the room. So you dont use a service the hotel wants you to use as a luxury. Im sure the bell hop would much rather have a higher salary and not have to bother standing there waiting for a guest to rummage thru their purse/bags to get to money when they've just gotten to their room.
It is also economically inefficient. Think of the 20% tip at a restaurant. I eat a meal for $150 per person for food. Now add wine -- I could get a $50 bottle or a $300 bottle. Same work for the waiter, but I tip $10 on the cheap bottle and $60 on the expensive bottle? What if $360 for wine is just not worth it, so I go for the $60 total wine. The restaurant just lost $250 in sales because of its stupid tipping policy.
I wish we didnt do tips. Businesses should pay appropriate wages and price labor into the cost to customer, rather than this awkward semi-moralistic tipping stuff.
Other than that, fuck tipping.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
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F.U., you quit the Marines and they were just looking for a few good men.
I'd put you in with the baggage.
Wait...I didn't quit the Marines. I'm a part-time Marine these days. So they get something out of me one weekend a month and two weeks a year. And if they were looking for a few good men, they definitely shouldn't be looking in my direction.
Pfft, Marine weekend warrior....ok you get steerage. Wait, planes don't have steerage.
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When I transitioned to being a school librarian, I spent a year in a Catholic school, and holy cow! I got gifts, treats, and close to $200 in gift cards. I can only imagine what the classroom teachers, who see the same kids for hours each day, was getting.
Last year, I started as a librarian in DC and don't get anything from the kids. Well, except for hugs from the little ones, which can be just as special (even if they are little germ monsters).
Got a new washing machine from Lowe's. Two guys brought it in, removed the old one, installed/connected the new one, tested it, cleaned up and left, no the way out I gave the two guys each $10. They were appreciative.
I asked them to place the new washer on the old pedestal, they told me they couldn't, it voids the warranty. I said ok, no big deal I guess.
I checked Lowe's website and all 27" washing machines from LG use the same pedestal. It was a few hundred dollars. I called Lowe's and they said, what? that's totally not true that it voids the warranty.
Anyway, they said they'd give me a new pedestal. the same delivery guys show up and install the pedestal which was free for me, was I supposed to tip them again?
I didn't, but they worked hard and apparently the delivery company had the wrong instructions for them, it doesn't void the warranty, but they don't connect it due to safety issues - I need to.
So the tip they get from me is that they only collect from my house once a month
Sometimes I give my gf just the tip, tho.
There are many more deserving people, such as teachers and military people, but hell no to postal workers!
So because one jackass did that you think all postal employees do it?? You are probably the same inconsiderate person who doesn't clear your walkway so these people can pick up your garbage or deleiver your mail.. And yes deleivering Mail is such a easy job 12 year olds can do it smh!!! you would not last a week doing either job. Not as easy as your think and the amount of B.S that comes with the jobs