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BrettNYG10 : 12/20/2014 1:24 am
Fuck you, Jints.

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And a dumb penalty by JT  
redbeard : 12/20/2014 9:07 pm : link
The rangers are aware this team is terrible, right?
brodeur  
MetsAreBack : 12/20/2014 9:08 pm : link
at Yankee stadium last year was that bad but maybe you could blame the ice or lights on that

this is just incredible how bad a goal allowed that was
And followed but  
Stufftherun : 12/20/2014 9:09 pm : link
another stupid offensive zone penalty!
I'm less concerned about a soft goal here and there ...  
baadbill : 12/20/2014 9:09 pm : link
than I am about a soft goal in the 3rd period 60 seconds after the Rangers score to tie the game in a MUST WIN situation ... a lack of focus and concentration at a critical moment
Horrible effort from everyone  
NYerInMA : 12/20/2014 9:13 pm : link
Including Henrik. Lost points like this are what send teams home at the end of the year.
Can they reverse this  
kmed : 12/20/2014 9:15 pm : link
garbage call?
RE: Horrible effort from everyone  
baadbill : 12/20/2014 9:15 pm : link
In comment 12044976 NYerInMA said:
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Including Henrik. Lost points like this are what send teams home at the end of the year.


Yup.
So  
Servo : 12/20/2014 9:16 pm : link
now the goaltender can take his own mask off to stop play, milliseconds before the shot enters the net?
are you kidding me with that shit?  
B in ALB : 12/20/2014 9:16 pm : link
that should be reviewable and called a goal.
Well  
redbeard : 12/20/2014 9:16 pm : link
That was horseshit...
wheel of justice....  
MetsAreBack : 12/20/2014 9:16 pm : link
confident?
How is that not a goal?  
Phil in LA : 12/20/2014 9:16 pm : link
He knocked off his own equipment.
Now let's see  
Stufftherun : 12/20/2014 9:17 pm : link
what kind of bullshit the refs dream up here! At the very least it should be a penalty on Ward for removing his mask during play and it SHOULD be a fucking goal!!'
oh my god  
MetsAreBack : 12/20/2014 9:18 pm : link
. why follow this league
I thought I had seen  
Stufftherun : 12/20/2014 9:22 pm : link
everything but that one, you've got to be kidding me?! Seriously, what was the conference all about? They make this shit up as they go along!
so the last 20 minutes of our christmas season  
MetsAreBack : 12/20/2014 9:25 pm : link
have been a goal most of our kids could stop.... followed by a goal called off because cam ward who I was told before this game sucks... threw off his helmet while a puck was going in against him

now I've seen it all
RE: so the last 20 minutes of our christmas season  
Deej : 12/20/2014 9:27 pm : link
In comment 12045029 MetsAreBack said:
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have been a goal most of our kids could stop.... followed by a goal called off because cam ward who I was told before this game sucks... threw off his helmet while a puck was going in against him

now I've seen it all


He does suck
Thank fucking  
kmed : 12/20/2014 9:28 pm : link
god
Who else but  
Stufftherun : 12/20/2014 9:28 pm : link
Evil Stralman?!
Evil  
Servo : 12/20/2014 9:28 pm : link
Stralman! Eat that, Cam.
Evil Stralman  
dpinzow : 12/20/2014 9:28 pm : link
2-2!
Wow did he rip that shot ... that was a hell of a wrist shot  
baadbill : 12/20/2014 9:29 pm : link
... from the point no less
C'mon boys!  
Stufftherun : 12/20/2014 9:37 pm : link
Need to pick it up here!
Great to see them tie it up ... hope to see them get the 2nd pt  
baadbill : 12/20/2014 9:44 pm : link
... but overall this has been a very disappointing performance
Zucc is just fucking incredible in the shoot outs  
baadbill : 12/20/2014 9:45 pm : link
.
We win!  
Headhunter : 12/20/2014 9:46 pm : link
.
Beauty of a save by Hank there  
pganut : 12/20/2014 9:47 pm : link
Nice comeback.

Can you stop winning now, please?
Phew!  
Stufftherun : 12/20/2014 9:47 pm : link
Far from pretty but got the 2 points.

For the love of God, don't get back home oversleep and show up with a heavy head tomorrow! Just get it done!
Rangers are going to blow them off the ice tomorrow  
oipolloi : 12/20/2014 9:48 pm : link
this was a shake-off the rust game
Sometimes you gotta steal some  
kmed : 12/20/2014 9:51 pm : link
pts. We just stole a couple.
Evil and Nash  
B in ALB : 12/20/2014 9:54 pm : link
are really something this year. Both those guys are playing great.

Can't believe how well Evil has played since he got to NY. He's been a great surprise.
The Rangers schedule is fucking annoying.  
kmed : 12/20/2014 9:57 pm : link
I feel like we have an odd schedule to start every season. Play mon or tue, then 5 days rest, then play 2 or 3 then 5 more days of rest.
Evil is signed through 2017-8 season  
oipolloi : 12/20/2014 9:59 pm : link
at 2.9 million per year

great trade by Sather
RE: Evil is signed through 2017-8 season  
Deej : 12/20/2014 10:09 pm : link
In comment 12045073 oipolloi said:
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at 2.9 million per year

great trade by Sather


It was obviously a great trade at the time, which was the crazy part. Though Evil's shooting % is not sustainable.

Notably, Preds lost MDZ for nothing. Philly just healthy scratched him too. And Andrew MacDonald is now a $5 million #6 dman. That was one of the worst signings Ive ever seen (since he wasnt unknown to them; it was a REsigning).
besides the scoring, Evil  
B in ALB : 12/20/2014 10:13 pm : link
has been rock solid on D. He's steady as hell, reliable, and smart. Great season for him so far.

He's a better hockey player than actor at this point.
Guess Ward  
PaulN : 12/20/2014 10:26 pm : link
Is not horrible, its a good idea to actually watch a player before you call him horrible, he was great tonight, and has been for a long stretch, the problem is that he plays for a poor team, injuries have screwed up Ward, whenever he has been healthy he has been a good goalie.
what's the consensus on Staal?  
oipolloi : 12/20/2014 10:29 pm : link
he is a UFA. Do you give him 5/25?

McD and Giaradi are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. It would be good to keep those 4 together. But Rangers also have guys in the pipe.
RE: Guess Ward  
Deej : 12/20/2014 10:34 pm : link
In comment 12045109 PaulN said:
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Is not horrible, its a good idea to actually watch a player before you call him horrible, he was great tonight, and has been for a long stretch, the problem is that he plays for a poor team, injuries have screwed up Ward, whenever he has been healthy he has been a good goalie.


Ward sucks. Bad goalies often have good, even great games -- although staggaringly Ward has one shutout in his last 70+ starts. I've seen close to two dozen of times in recent years. He has been below average for 3 or 4 seasons. Maybe YOU shouldnt judge a guy from one game and then get sanctimonious.
RE: what's the consensus on Staal?  
Deej : 12/20/2014 10:36 pm : link
In comment 12045115 oipolloi said:
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he is a UFA. Do you give him 5/25?

McD and Giaradi are locked up for 4 and 5 years respectively. It would be good to keep those 4 together. But Rangers also have guys in the pipe.


I'd be surprised if Staal took less than 5.75 which I'd consider a hometown discount. He'll get 6+ on the open market.
Some Eklund Lols  
Anakim : 12/20/2014 11:08 pm : link
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One of the benefits of the trade freeze is the many discussions that take place heading into the deadline. I was told this morning by a key source in New York the Rangers contacted the Edmonton Oilers regarding Taylor Hall, and were open to discussing A blockbuster deal that would send two Rangers and a conditional first and second pick to Edmonton. One of the players would be Marc Staal and the conditional picks would be linked to whether or not Edmonton could extend Staal.
RE: Some Eklund Lols  
Stufftherun : 12/20/2014 11:39 pm : link
In comment 12045178 Anakim said:
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One of the benefits of the trade freeze is the many discussions that take place heading into the deadline. I was told this morning by a key source in New York the Rangers contacted the Edmonton Oilers regarding Taylor Hall, and were open to discussing A blockbuster deal that would send two Rangers and a conditional first and second pick to Edmonton. One of the players would be Marc Staal and the conditional picks would be linked to whether or not Edmonton could extend Staal.


Though it would further destabilize the backline it sure would be interesting. I pondered the idea after they left Edm knowing they're shopping Hall. Guess someone's gotta fill that 5.5 - 6 mil slot and depending on who else would be moved it could alleviate their off-season concerns even with the cap hike.

I'm sure this would be met with great criticism specifically by those on this board who despise shiny things.
Yeah, it would destabilize the second-pairing  
Anakim : 12/21/2014 1:32 am : link
but you do that trade 7 days of the week. Taylor Hall is the goods. He's not the reason Edmonton sucks so badly.
Are Hunwick and Fast  
Stufftherun : 12/21/2014 1:39 am : link
being showcased and where does J. Moore fit into all of this? Is Zuccie gone? How about Hags, is he being dangled?
RE: Are Hunwick and Fast  
Anakim : 12/21/2014 1:44 am : link
In comment 12045327 Stufftherun said:
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being showcased and where does J. Moore fit into all of this? Is Zuccie gone? How about Hags, is he being dangled?


Probably not; Moore is on the outs;, Zuccs shouldn't be traded despite the pleadings of Greg and Deej; and a gut feeling, but I think Hagelin will not the end the season as a Ranger, if we re-sign/keep Staal. Just a hunch on my part. Put me in the "Trade Staal instead of re-signing him for 6 M. per" bunch.
I would hate to see them move Zuccie  
Stufftherun : 12/21/2014 2:08 am : link
or Hags as they play such key roles on the team despite their shortcomings. Strange how they've buried J. Moore in the sense of if they wanted to move him he's fallen off the radar.

Greg has brought it up a number of times and I agree with him, the Girardi contract was a blunder especially when you juxtapose it with McD's. That one hurts and will hurt not too far down the road.
Girardi's been fine for the most part this year  
Anakim : 12/21/2014 4:03 am : link
Really bounced back well from that shitty Stanley Cup.


But yeah, would've rather have saved that money and re-signed Stralman and gotten some other guys (and traded Girardi for like Sami Vatanen). I'm not upset Girardi is a Ranger though. He's been playing well defensively for us.
Girardi's been fine for the most part this year  
Anakim : 12/21/2014 4:02 am : link
Really bounced back well from that shitty Stanley Cup.


But yeah, would've rather have saved that money and re-signed Stralman
Anak  
Deej : 12/21/2014 7:36 am : link
Hagelin would be the other guy you trade vs Zucc. There is money for one but not both I think. The emergence of Miller, Hayes, and Fast I think makes Hags a little more expendable. Maybe you see if you can extend Zucc, if yes trade hags if no trade Zucc. Hagelin may bring back a better return, in part because I think the playoff teams will be the ones in on Hags and it makes more sense for them to pay full price for a player.
I have misgivings  
Servo : 12/21/2014 8:07 am : link
About the prospect of trading Hagelin. I know he doesn't put up big numbers on the scoresheet and he struggles to finish, but his speed is so disruptive to opponents and seems to contribute significantly to keeping the puck in the other team's end. There is seldom a game where I don't notice him in some positive manner, and he is a turnover-forcing machine.

I may be wrong but he seems to me one of those guys that we would miss more than we think when he's gone. A team that relies on its speed as a major part of its system probably shouldn't trade its fastest player unless the return is too good to pass up.
I would keep hagelin  
MetsAreBack : 12/21/2014 10:19 am : link
the tough decision is zuccs vs MSL. Marty is a nice clubhouse presence but he will be old.... you never know when the bottom will fall out... and something tells me a competitor like that isn't taking a hometown discount
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