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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/21/2014 9:47 am
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I'm worried. I think they are a little full of themselves  
Victor in CT : 12/21/2014 9:52 am : link
for a team that lost 6 straight and now won 2 against their fellow dregs of the NFL
More than most games I'm worried about Eli  
bluesince56 : 12/21/2014 10:09 am : link
getting really hurt. There will be no running game and they will be blizing almost all game.
RE: More than most games I'm worried about Eli  
Victor in CT : 12/21/2014 10:10 am : link
In comment 12045487 bluesince56 said:
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getting really hurt. There will be no running game and they will be blizing almost all game.


me too. Watch Fisher blitz at the Walton/Jerry duo
RE: I'm worried. I think they are a little full of themselves  
Britt in VA : 12/21/2014 10:13 am : link
In comment 12045466 Victor in CT said:
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for a team that lost 6 straight and now won 2 against their fellow dregs of the NFL


Worried about what? What's the worst that can happen? We lose? Big deal.

The Rams last two wins have come at the expense of the Raiders and Redskins, and they only scored six points against Arizona with Lindley at QB.

I'd say it's an even match up. I want to break their three game streak of not allowing a TD. Their D-line is a good barometer to see where our O-line is at.

Win, lose, doesn't really matter. Just improve.
RE: RE: I'm worried. I think they are a little full of themselves  
Victor in CT : 12/21/2014 10:17 am : link
In comment 12045498 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 12045466 Victor in CT said:


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for a team that lost 6 straight and now won 2 against their fellow dregs of the NFL



Worried about what? What's the worst that can happen? We lose? Big deal.

The Rams last two wins have come at the expense of the Raiders and Redskins, and they only scored six points against Arizona with Lindley at QB.

I'd say it's an even match up. I want to break their three game streak of not allowing a TD. Their D-line is a good barometer to see where our O-line is at.

Win, lose, doesn't really matter. Just improve.


Eli's health. I should have included that
Ha, well that IS a valid concern.  
Britt in VA : 12/21/2014 10:19 am : link
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I just want to see everyone fighting for every play.  
gmen1234 : 12/21/2014 10:19 am : link
I hate to see people that get paid millions to play a game not going all out. I understand not wanting to get injured, etc. but show some fight!
front 7  
area junc : 12/21/2014 10:20 am : link
this rams front 7 is every bit as good as the SF/SEA front 7s of the last few.

michael brockers, robert quinn, chris long, aaron donald, james laurinaitis, alec ogletree and janoris jenkins on the same defense is nasty with tons of speed. jenkins and laurinaitis extremely underrated

and riding a wave - have not allowed a touchdown in 3 games. 100% healthy. sound, aggressive scheme that has given eli fits in the past.

in real time - the best defense we have faced this year and it will b impressive if our offense plays well
eli  
area junc : 12/21/2014 10:21 am : link
is nursing a back injury too
one item I am curious about today.  
mdc1 : 12/21/2014 11:05 am : link
my impression of the Giants is that they lack a hard tough nose ability to beat anyone, no physicality. Will be interesting to see how they look against a Jeff Fischer team that is very physical. Should tell us a few things.
RE: More than most games I'm worried about Eli  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/21/2014 11:47 am : link
In comment 12045487 bluesince56 said:
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getting really hurt. There will be no running game and they will be blizing almost all game.


And Eli will be most vulnerable if the team does the run, run, pass on 3rd and long offense. The ram's front 7 will just obliterate the Giant's O-line in that scenario.
Have we improved at all as some here on BBI  
RDJR : 12/21/2014 11:58 am : link
believe? This game may tell us something in relation to that question.
If the ol can block for anything today  
micky : 12/21/2014 12:00 pm : link
I'm interested in seeing if OBJ can snap the Rams defensive streak
Lets get another W today  
Giants4246 : 12/21/2014 12:07 pm : link
Fuck the draft pick hype, if i'm investing 3+ hours of my time later on today watching them i want to see a win.
it's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/21/2014 12:42 pm : link
a game like this where the Giants inattention on the offensive line will really hurt them. This one could get ugly.
I just want Beckham and Eli to come out of this mostly healthy.  
Riggies : 12/21/2014 12:46 pm : link
Between Fisher and Lewis, there's a long history of not just physical play, but dirty play as well.

Mixed with the Giants issues on the OL and overall lack of anyone to even slightly take some of the load odd Beckham, this game has potential disaster written all over it.

If things get ugly early, this is one time where I'd applaud tossing Nassib and Olgletree to the wolves.
RE: More than most games I'm worried about Eli  
TMS : 12/21/2014 1:08 pm : link
In comment 12045487 bluesince56 said:
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getting really hurt. There will be no running game and they will be blizing almost all game.
Second that thought. The curse of the neglected OL has cost us very dearly these last three years but if ELI gets injured that will be the worst.
I'm worried we might win and  
nicky43 : 12/21/2014 1:16 pm : link
move down in the draft. Not really but that is the actual best case for us.


But....Let's kick butt GIANTS!!!!!!!
RE: it's  
section125 : 12/21/2014 1:17 pm : link
In comment 12045707 Eric from BBI said:
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a game like this where the Giants inattention on the offensive line will really hurt them. This one could get ugly.


True, but our OLine looked a helluva lot better than the Eagles and Native Americans did yesterday.
Lets see what kind  
TMS : 12/21/2014 1:17 pm : link
of plan Coughlin, McAdoo and Flaherty have come up with to keep ELI from being buried along with our offense by this defense.
@espnstatsinfo  
BSIMatt : 12/21/2014 1:34 pm : link
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Odell Beckham Jr.: 71 Rec this season, most by player thru 1st 10 career games in NFL history (ELIAS).
Good measure stick game  
kepler20 : 12/21/2014 1:36 pm : link
Going against a good front 7
Eli vs pressure
Odell vs pressure

Let's see exactly how much we've improved.
Call  
BigBlueinDE : 12/21/2014 1:40 pm : link
me crazy, but I wouldn't be opposed to letting Nassib get some quality time in the next two games.
RE: Good measure stick game  
section125 : 12/21/2014 1:42 pm : link
In comment 12045788 kepler20 said:
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Going against a good front 7
Eli vs pressure
Odell vs pressure

Let's see exactly how much we've improved.


I don't see where they have improved or could have improved. It is the same players, except maybe Pugh is healthier?
Just have to hope Eli survives.
RE: RE: Good measure stick game  
kepler20 : 12/21/2014 1:49 pm : link
In comment 12045799 section125 said:
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In comment 12045788 kepler20 said:


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Going against a good front 7
Eli vs pressure
Odell vs pressure

Let's see exactly how much we've improved.



I don't see where they have improved or could have improved. It is the same players, except maybe Pugh is healthier?
Just have to hope Eli survives.


Me too. I agree but I'm just running along with the narrative of beating 2 piss poor team suddenly turns off the hot seat for the coaching staff.
RE: it's  
AcidTest : 12/21/2014 1:57 pm : link
In comment 12045707 Eric from BBI said:
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a game like this where the Giants inattention on the offensive line will really hurt them. This one could get ugly.


Think so. Great DL against our lousy OL = not a good matchup for us. Walton and Jerry against their DL is a nightmare.
This is a bad matchup  
silverfox : 12/21/2014 2:20 pm : link
...Eli may not finish the season.
I have a bad....  
Wonderphil11 : 12/21/2014 2:22 pm : link
feeling that this game could unfold like the Panthers game last year...just a complete jailbreak on every snap.
Inactives  
Defenderdawg : 12/21/2014 2:27 pm : link
@NYPost_Schwartz: Giants inactives: Jennings, Hosley, Gettis, Herman, Cunningham, Davidson, Hamilton. Lots of newcomers on that list.
re  
diable : 12/21/2014 2:37 pm : link
Whats with all the negativity?

Looking forward to the game.

GO GIANTS !!!
Hosley  
AcidTest : 12/21/2014 2:55 pm : link
is so done with the Giants.
I'm happy....  
Doomster : 12/21/2014 3:06 pm : link
Surprised Boston Fox did not flex the Dallas game....

As for this game:

"they only scored six points against Arizona with Lindley at QB."

I didn't know that Lindley played defense...


This offense should be ready for this pass rush with quick hitters......

The Rams offense sucks with Hill at qb....if the Giant defense can stop the Ram running game and force Hill to win, the defense should be in good shape....

Eli will be getting a rush....he can't force things....take what he is given, and make good decisions...if the Giants don't make mistakes, they should win this one....
Eli will be fine. The guy has never missed a game is probably one of  
AnishPatel : 12/21/2014 3:06 pm : link
the toughest QBs in the game. I am sure we have a good game plan that won't have Eli drop back 5 and 7 steps on a consistent basis.
I dont think inattention is the right word  
BSIMatt : 12/21/2014 3:22 pm : link
To describe the Giants attitude towards the offensive line. They spent their first round pick on a tackle, came back and selected the top center prospect in the draft, and signed the top guard prospect in free agency. It may have been to little to late, but its not like they've ignored the line. The giants had problems all over, not just on the offensive line.
RE: I dont think inattention is the right word  
AnishPatel : 12/21/2014 3:52 pm : link
In comment 12045954 BSIMatt said:
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To describe the Giants attitude towards the offensive line. They spent their first round pick on a tackle, came back and selected the top center prospect in the draft, and signed the top guard prospect in free agency. It may have been to little to late, but its not like they've ignored the line. The giants had problems all over, not just on the offensive line.


The problem is the philosophy. Reese and Ross tried to ride the original 5 out except age, injury and degradation of talent hurt us. In the mean time, we drafted mid round developmental project guys. The theory Iam guessing is to develop them, so when eventually our guys did retire one by one, those developmental guys could slide right in.

However, that didn't play out. Our guys left us for the reasons above, and in the meantime, no one developed. So that fucked us. So then everything compiled. You can't execute a 5 and 7 drop system if your guys can't run block or pass block. That's just the OL. If you factor injury to WR and RB then that's a formula for an epic shit show.

We signed a guard, but our bad luck the guy is useless in year 1. We need a lot more talent everyone on offense is what it comes down to. On top of that we need depth because our guys suck. We have big time issues on offense.
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