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McAdoo: You sold yet?

drkenneth : 12/21/2014 7:46 pm
I am. He's done a very nice job this year.
yes, was on board at start  
alligatorpie : 12/21/2014 7:47 pm : link
and now want a more DL centric attacking defense
absolutely  
Peter from CT : 12/21/2014 7:47 pm : link
also Eli with a clean pocket is something else
....  
yankees78 : 12/21/2014 7:47 pm : link
I likes him
Yes  
BigBlueinDE : 12/21/2014 7:49 pm : link
and was from training camp. Next year with an additional year in they system I expect even better things.
Eli  
Dragon : 12/21/2014 7:50 pm : link
Made him look great today that's why when Eli is just missing those 3-5 big throws in a game this team can look so lost on offense.
Just to get back to an average offense this year -- on the whole, not  
Riggies : 12/21/2014 7:53 pm : link
just today, when they obviously played great -- given what he's been working with talent-wise, has been a damn good accomplishment for McAdoo and definitely shows promise for him as a coach, going forward.

What both he and Langsdorf have done with/for Eli especially is impressive, given how broken he was (and yes, he was broken).
I actually think this team's ahead of the learning curve  
mfsd : 12/21/2014 7:53 pm : link
get some OL help and hopefully a healthy Cruz and look out next year
Yes  
Danny Kanell : 12/21/2014 7:54 pm : link
.
would love to see him  
MookGiants : 12/21/2014 7:55 pm : link
with multiple weapons and an offensive line. He's doing well with basically just Eli and Beckham
I'm sold.  
Ira : 12/21/2014 7:55 pm : link
I'm looking forward to next season when everyone knows the offense from the start.
I am not sold on anything  
Essex : 12/21/2014 7:58 pm : link
We played three meaningless games. That doesn't mean it can't work, but I am not falling for fool's gold
I am on the fence...  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 12/21/2014 7:58 pm : link
because we did not beat any of the better teams on our schedule.
I've been sold  
sjnyfan : 12/21/2014 7:58 pm : link
and look forward to what this offense looks like when it's 100% healthy
You get a decent line and Cruz back  
montanagiant : 12/21/2014 7:59 pm : link
That will be scary good
I am tired of the predictable  
Reb8thVA : 12/21/2014 8:02 pm : link
Run, run, pass sequences. I understand some of that is due to the weak OL but I am sure he will continue to evolve.
McAdoo's fine,  
CT Charlie : 12/21/2014 8:03 pm : link
but we've beaten weak teams with little or nothing to play for. Next year, though, we should contend for the division if we stay healthy.
Yes  
nedhiggins : 12/21/2014 8:05 pm : link
beef up the O-line, get jennings/cruz healthy, another year for donnell and add another WR and it'll be a potent offense potentially
Breakdown..  
dep026 : 12/21/2014 8:05 pm : link
Rams shut down peyton - beast of a defense
Eli shreds the rams - meaningless game.
time to take care of both trenches, get cruz back  
mattlawson : 12/21/2014 8:06 pm : link
and we have a team
I am  
AnishPatel : 12/21/2014 8:08 pm : link
But i have been for a while. I like what he is doing for this offense. We clearly need more talent but the passing concepts are there.
He's done a really good job this year.  
arcarsenal : 12/21/2014 8:16 pm : link
Hopefully he's here a long time.
RE: I am not sold on anything  
Great White Ghost : 12/21/2014 8:20 pm : link
In comment 12047490 Essex said:
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We played three meaningless games. That doesn't mean it can't work, but I am not falling for fool's gold
When you play well in meaningless games, it means something.Draft pick be fucked, it's much easier to get back into the playoffs with a 7-9 team than it is a 3-13 team.

It meant the players haven't tuned out their coach. MacAdoo makes his bones, Beckham learned and showed a lot today, from a discipline and savvy standpoint.Randle progressed, Darkwa showed a reason to stay interested, Wyn is evolving into a decent player, ejections and then a win showed resiliency and faith in eachother. Good stuff all around. To put weight on losses and none on wins is foolish.

In the end you are what your record says you are, not what some random person thinks it should be.If we finish a game under .500, We have to look at the injuries, the schedule, and the fact we may finsh no worse this year than last, in much worse circumstances.It's pretty clear this team hasn't lost faith in it's coaching.
I'm sold on Beckham  
illmatic : 12/21/2014 8:23 pm : link
But McAdoo seems to be just fine, especially considering it's his first year at it. I'd like to see what he could do with a better OL and better TE play.
RE: RE: I am not sold on anything  
Essex : 12/21/2014 8:34 pm : link
In comment 12047564 Great White Ghost said:
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In comment 12047490 Essex said:


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We played three meaningless games. That doesn't mean it can't work, but I am not falling for fool's gold

When you play well in meaningless games, it means something.Draft pick be fucked, it's much easier to get back into the playoffs with a 7-9 team than it is a 3-13 team.

It meant the players haven't tuned out their coach. MacAdoo makes his bones, Beckham learned and showed a lot today, from a discipline and savvy standpoint.Randle progressed, Darkwa showed a reason to stay interested, Wyn is evolving into a decent player, ejections and then a win showed resiliency and faith in eachother. Good stuff all around. To put weight on losses and none on wins is foolish.

In the end you are what your record says you are, not what some random person thinks it should be.If we finish a game under .500, We have to look at the injuries, the schedule, and the fact we may finsh no worse this year than last, in much worse circumstances.It's pretty clear this team hasn't lost faith in it's coaching.


I heard the same thing last year, just substitute offense for defense. We went 7-3 down stretch last year. Not falling for it again. We beat Shawn Hill, Zach Megtenberger, and Bob. Again, count me as skeptical.
I'm a pragmatist, if it works good, it seems to be working and getting  
plato : 12/21/2014 8:36 pm : link
better with time. perfect count me in.
Pretty obvious  
natefit : 12/21/2014 8:48 pm : link
the TC staying grooming Mac is where we are headed.
RE: Pretty obvious  
Essex : 12/21/2014 8:51 pm : link
In comment 12047645 natefit said:
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the TC staying grooming Mac is where we are headed.


True, but not really sure why that is a good idea or why I would be excited by it. We have been awful for so two+ years
McAdoo not a TC Replacement  
Dave in VA : 12/21/2014 8:53 pm : link
I may be warning to him as an OC, but have seen nothing to warrant him as HC in waiting
Even if he turns into a good coordinator  
Essex : 12/21/2014 8:57 pm : link
Which is far from guaranteed, there are plenty of player friendly good coordinators who made lousy head coaches. Whole thing is stupid. We win meaningless games against opponents playing meaningless games and everything changes. Absolutely crazy
The entire season is a rebound for this offense from being arguably  
Riggies : 12/21/2014 9:08 pm : link
the worst offense in the NFL (when turnovers were accounted for) last year. The step back to mediocrity on the whole, in the big picture of the season, was a significant step from where they're coming from, especially given what he was largely handed, and he's, assumedly, been a significant factor in mostly fixing a pretty badly broken QB.

Fools gold would be looking at these three/four games and pretending the defense isn't still shit, that the offense is stacked with talent, and that the team is likely going to be serious contenders next year based off just this sample size. Not recognizing that.
I'm sold, 100%  
Emil : 12/21/2014 9:21 pm : link
Eli Manning
29 TDs, 13 INTs, and 3,981 yds, with one week to go.

Best season for him since 2011.
Sold.  
SMitch2 : 12/21/2014 9:36 pm : link
We've put decent points up on good defenses this year with an entirely new offense. Eli has gotten better as the season has gone on. Eli is having a career year. We're doing this with 1 legit WR.

How many shut outs this year?
How many ints where the WR went one way the ball the other because of tricky reads?
How many delay of game penalties as the clock times out?
How many 7 step drops taken with when the OL can't hold up?
How many 25+ yard throws on 3rd and 1?
How many young/new WRs are having trouble grasping their responsibilities and not being able to get integrated quickly when pressed into service because of injury?

This system is just better.
This is not close to Eli's career year.  
Riggies : 12/21/2014 9:50 pm : link
I give McAdoo (and Langsdorf) significant credit for getting him back on track, but that is going too far, honestly.

his overall play this season isn't in the same class as it was in 2011 (and that's okay, fine, he's still played well all things considered, is a good QB again, etc). If it was, this team probably would have been alive in the playoff hunt at least into December; he was that good that year.
You got it  
bignygfan : 12/21/2014 10:06 pm : link
Eli is a pretty damn QB so seeing him play well when he doesn't get hit I credit the OC.
Riggies  
AnishPatel : 12/21/2014 10:10 pm : link
He was in the system for 4 years in 2011. This is his first year in this system. The fact he did this well surprised me. I had him better than last season, but still overall shitty season. I didn't expect a big leap stat wise.

Let's see how Eli does, assuming he plays that long, 4 years in the same system.

RE: would love to see him  
islander1 : 12/21/2014 10:12 pm : link
In comment 12047482 MookGiants said:
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with multiple weapons and an offensive line. He's doing well with basically just Eli and Beckham


This. He hasn't even had Jennings all that much.

I'm annoyed at the lack of hurry-up in the offense, but with the exception fo 2 or 3 weeks, this offense has delivered, despite the meh to shittastic offensive line he inherited.
I like what I'm seeing.  
TC : 12/21/2014 11:29 pm : link
And I've noticed that the last couple of games he's looked a lot more comfortable calling plays. I think his play calling has improved and he just has more feel for how to integrate his play choice with what's happening on the field. He's creating!

This could become fun!
Forget who we have beaten  
djm : 12/21/2014 11:44 pm : link
And just look at pts and yardage totals second half of this season. The offense has been formidable since beckham got into his groove.

Were about 2 solid players away on offense from being really tough to deal with.
Add two players in FA-- maybe a guard and a TE  
djm : 12/21/2014 11:46 pm : link
And then draft Rb.
two words  
giantfanboy : 12/22/2014 12:58 am : link
RED ZONE

when we get into the red zone
i have no idea what we are going to do ..

all the tds in the red zone today were imaginative plays
utilizing different schemes

Hilarious  
montanagiant : 12/22/2014 1:11 am : link
Last week the - "Rams are going to kill us and Eli will be taken away on a stretcher"

After the win - "Rams are piss poor team, does not mean shit that we dominated their D-Line"

rams  
sshin05 : 12/22/2014 1:14 am : link
are an ascending team. They have beaten the Seahawks and Niners. It was impressive to do that to a defense that hasn't allowed a TD in last THREE games.
2011 made me realize how great Eli Manning is  
NYG07 : 12/22/2014 2:02 am : link
This year is not as great but is arguably his second best. I think Mcadoo is a bright young guy with a possible future as a head coach.
Always  
Ron From NYC : 12/22/2014 5:46 am : link
Great addition, hopefully we won't lose him before he becomes the HC.
RE: Pretty obvious  
Optimus-NY : 12/22/2014 10:06 am : link
In comment 12047645 natefit said:
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the TC staying grooming Mac is where we are headed.


It looks that way to me too Nate.
McAdoo  
Dragon : 12/22/2014 11:51 am : link
Right or wrong it looks like TC will be back next year. What happens if McAdoo is given a head coaching offer can we have taken one step forward only to end up two backwards. If he leaves that would be another offensive system for Eli in two consecutive years.
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