I remember how this season went when the schedule was tough. I know we've feasted on some bad teams and I know Eric is convinced that we shouldn't be too excited for that reason, but I don't care. I am excited. We are a really, really young team and I think this is more of our young players coming along than just feasting on crappy teams.
Offensively, I think we are 2 players away from being really, really good. We will have a full season of McAdoo's system(plus offseason tweaks). We add a guard and a legit TE to this group and we are going to be really tough to stop. OBJ, Cruz and Randle is a good young group of WR's. Andre Williams is starting to look a lot better now that he's getting PT and Jennings is a very good, well rounded back. Our OL is playing better and if we move Richburg inside and add a really tough guard to the mix, I think they will continue to progress. I like Donnell, but I'd like him more as the #2 TE. I'd love to see Eli with a legit TE talent.
Defensively, we have some really good young players in Moore, Wynn, Hankins and Kennard. With Prince and DRC, we have 2 legit corners. I really hope we bring back Rolle and pray that Beason comes back healthy. We don't need to add a ton of talent, but I'd like another playmaking LB.
I am convinced that this team is just getting a lot better rather than facing bad teams.
There's a big spread there, and it goes anywhere from 'holy shit these guys are pretty good' to 'oh no, not this again'.
On O, they have to be able to run block. The pass blocking hasn't been awful this year, but Eli has been in a lot of 2nd and 3rd and longs because they are just not getting anything from the ground game. All three spots of the interior o-line are probably up for grabs, if only because LTs are hard to find.
There's a big spread there, and it goes anywhere from 'holy shit these guys are pretty good' to 'oh no, not this again'.
Right, I'm making a few assumptions regarding our own FA. I can't see us letting a 25 year old JPP walk. Not as convinced we will open the wallets for Rolle, but I hope it works out.
Eli makes him look good, but I want a premier TE to add to this offensive talent. I'd like to continue to bring Donnell along as the #2 TE. He's good, but I want a well rounded threat to go along with these guys.
We don't need to add a ton of talent, but I'd like another playmaking LB.
I am convinced that this team is just getting a lot better rather than facing bad teams.
This team still needs quite a few more players, to beat good teams on a consistent basis.....it also needs a new DC....it is a better team....but it has feasted on teams worse than them.....our defense looks good against less than stellar offensive teams.....you don't see a pattern of the last two seasons? This team will be better next year.....moves have to be made to make them a playoff team....this will be an interesting off season.....
Major problems on the OL IMO. Walton, Jerry, Reynolds, Brewer, Snyder, Gettis, and Mosley should be cut or not resigned. Brown already was. Aside from Beatty, Richburg, Schwartz, and Pugh, Gaines and Herman are the only ones I'd bring back. Need a drive blocking guard and at least two other players.
#1 TE is a former UDFA who was a QB at Grambling. Has blocking and fumbling problems. JPP of TEs never developed.
Many questions at WR. Can Cruz return to form? Can RR develop into at least a reliable #3? Everybody else is really a journeyman.
Need another big body next to Hankins.
Can we resign JPP? If we can't, then we probably need another DE.
No real good young LBs aside from Kennard.
What to do with Rolle.
not impossible and the majority of the above just need to be solid not spectacular.
Enough with this dissing of Gilbride. Some of you guys are ridiculous.
Eli-to-Beckham has been the game changer. I really do think it is just that simple.
I don't think he's had terrific personnel but even so, at some point you have to say "We know what we have, and it's not good enough. Let's get someone better." -- much as they did with the transition from Gilbride to McAdoo.
The risk you take is that the guy you get ends up actually being worse.
At WR, assuming Cruz comes back and I'm convinced that he will, we are set. 3 talented and young WR's. Add a guard and a TE and look out.
With luck, this year will be a foundation for future improvements. IMHO it would be a real stretch to think of it as a springboard for contention next season.
1) 2 OL - Either 2 OG or an OG and RT. either way, Richburg needs to be at OC. A healthy Schwartz can be one of those OGs. Pugh may move inside, although I think putting a good player next to him will improve his play at RT.
2) TE - Donnell was a nice surprise. But, his play tailed off in the second half. And, he just is a terrible blocker. We need a legit #1 TE.
3) At least 1 legitimate starting DE. This depends on whether JPP is re-signed. Regardless, I like Ayers, Moore, and Wynn to rotate in. But, none are starting DEs to take a majority of snaps.
4) 1 more DT - I really like Hankins and Jenkins is a nice compliment. I am excited for Bromley, but we could use an upgrade over Kuhn to rotate in.
5) At least 1 LB - Kennard has been all over the field since getting playing time. He is the first playmaking LB on the outside in a long time for us. I feel like with better players around him, McClain is a decent MLB, but I would prefer him outside as well.
6) We need to upgrade S.
When everyone is healthy, we should be set at CB, with Prince and DRC as one of the better tandems in the league.
we need ,in players to beat the Cowboys who have
taken over the lead in the Div?
On D, I think we need more. But, we have guys that can make plays. I think most importantly, we need a new DC and system.
I don't think he's had terrific personnel but even so, at some point you have to say "We know what we have, and it's not good enough. Let's get someone better." -- much as they did with the transition from Gilbride to McAdoo.
The risk you take is that the guy you get ends up actually being worse.
i don't know what's worse than allowing wide-open touchdowns and big plays week after week because of scheme and mental breakdowns as opposed to talent deficincies. the choice of the next defensive coordinator will go along way in determining whether the giants get back into playoff contention.
Manning, Beatty and JPP all bounced back. The young players are showing something. And DRC and Ayers look like very good FA signings.
Let's steal the cowboys blueprint for success and fix the OL for real via drafting another quality OL in the first 3 rds and let's improve back 7 on D and get another weapon for offense.
There is a legitimate shot this team could be over 500 next year.
On defense we still have a ways to go. If we change systems, then we are back to square one.
So I am not ready to say the arrow is point up. I think it's not pointing down, which is a good sign. I think it's holding at neutral. This off season will tell us where the arrow could be pointing.
On offense we do need another TE, a true two way TE. Doesn't have to be anything overly spectacular, but someone that is consistent and tough. An OG with the addition of a healthy Schwartz and Richburg playing C will see much improvement. I think we need another RB; I wonder how far someone like Gurley drops because of the injury, or where a Duke Johnson type goes. Either way I'd look to add one in the draft. Bring in a solid vet FA WR as depth as insurance of Cruz, and hope Randle can continue to build on the performance he had yesterday, and we are looking really good.
I am confident this can all be shored up in the off-season. Here's to hoping that along with a new DC, we get a new training staff so we aren't always leading the league in injuries.
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Love this McAdoo offense and how he tailors the scheme for his personnel. Such a nice departure from the Gilbride offense of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Now we just need to continue solidifying the offensive line in the offseason and the sky's the limit next season.
What a load of horseshit. He "square pegged" his way to two Lombardi's and the greatest run of offense the Giants saw since YA Tittle in the early 60's. McAdoo hasn't won shit yet, and if you notice, put some points on the board yesterday by dispensing with the 3 yard and a cloud of dust passes and going vertical-just like Gilbride.
Enough with this dissing of Gilbride. Some of you guys are ridiculous.
Gilbride invented the forward pass. As well as fire, and the rotary engine.
^This. You can't feel disappointed about the Ws costing us draft position when the catalysts for the Ws are the young guys (Beckham/Williams/Kennard obviously, but Richburg/Pugh/Hankins and others have all played at a high level). These guys are the core of the team for the next 3+ seasons.
Hopefully JPP. Prince is still young though not signed long term.
And Eli is relatively young in QB-years.
Then they played at team with a legit defense, and hung 37 points on them; Rams hadn't given up a TD in three games, and Giants scored 4.
In fact, some told us this team sucked on March 12th, so there is nothing to see here...
I don't see how Fewell comes back. We should have a new defense next year (hopefully an attacking one). The number one priority to me has to be resigning JPP. I also could see Rolle coming back on a team friendly deal. He seems to love being a Giant.
I would like to see the giants add a mauling guard, a safety oppositte rolle and a weakside linebacker who can cover tight ends. If Cruz prince and beason come back healthy I think this team can win 10 games next year.
Not yet ... but he's getting there rapidly ...
give him a little time to become an all around TE ... he was practice squad material who was not even invited to the combine ... he still has a lot of learning to do ... but has shown he can ...
We are getting closer. Need another good off-season.